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Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:33 am**

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:50 am
Averroes wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:50 pm
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 4:26 pm

What if Buddha was just a very nice and highly intelligent bloke - is it ok to disrespect him then?
You make your own choices. Or are you asking me what to do as a student asks his teacher?

You have shown a picture of a demolished Buddha statue in Afghanistan The Afghan can do whatever they want with their property, it's their right. Are you not for freedom of conscience and freedom of expression? The Chinese too are destroying statues of Buddha on a massive scale in China: https://bitterwinter.org/buddhist-statu ... oss-china/
I too have smashed all the statues and tore up all the pictures that I had before embracing Islam. Those were my properties and I disposed of them as I wished.
The interesting thing is that none of those statues could protect or defend themselves when I smashed them into pieces, nor did they protest.
Isn't the bolded above evidence of stupidity??
The above is from your evil jihadist mind being brainwashed by the evil laden elements of Islam in not appreciating the finer attributes of human nature.
All your response is merely to confirm you are thinking like the Chinese CCP which is not accepted by the majority of people.

Did he really just state that!!?

Oh, what a boring planet Earth we would live on if Muslims ruled the planet. All the beautiful creations of wo/men throughout antiquity destroyed for a paedophile warlord...the sort of scum that God would have already judged for soul conversion to the beast 666 - reincarnated pig, what an irony.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:03 am**

Averroes, I hope you can tell the difference between the greater and lesser jihads. These two jihads are mutually incompatible. Listen to clerics who tell you Islam is a religion of peace.

Islam at its best is not tribal. Muslims are allowed to destroy own personal goods if they so desire; however Muslims are not allowed to destroy the heritage of ages before the advent of Muhammad, nor the heritage of contemporary peoples.See the history of the Hagia Sophia in Istambul; Muslims did not wreck this beauty but used it with respect.
There are Muslims who have been able to live kindly with other ethnic groups, and those are who you should emulate.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:51 pm**

Some members have expressed much anger at the following statement of mine:

Averroes wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:50 pm I too have smashed all the statues and tore up all the pictures that I had before embracing Islam. Those were my properties and I disposed of them as I wished. The interesting thing is that none of those statues could protect or defend themselves I smashed them into pieces, nor did they protest.

You make me laugh you people. Anyway, I greatly enjoyed destroying those statues. The pleasure was even multiplied for me because there was a great story behind it and an even greater blessing of Allah, the Almighty in allowing me to destroy those abominations that some people still worship. Let me tell you all about this great story of mine. This will make some of you more angry God willing. Whether you were to subsequently vent your anger or suppress it, it's all the same for me; I really don't care about your little tantrums as you may have already noticed.

It all goes back to when I was about 4 to 6 years old. I was not born in a Muslim family as you all already know. When I was about 4 to 6 years old, I used to mock at the statues that my surroundings used to worship. I already then really hated those abominations. I didn't know why then but it was genuine hate that I couldn't explain back then. I used to walk up to those statues and tell them in a menacing tone: "if you are god, why do you remain here all day? Don't you have better things to do?" Then I would gather some saliva in my mouth to spit in their direction. Once my then Trinitarian mother heard my little monologue and she lightly scolded me! After that I would wait when she was not watching to continue mocking these abominations. But sadly later I went to Trinitarian school and was taught corrupted teachings and became like my surroundings! Worst yet I even learned about the abomination which is nowadays Buddhism and practiced some heedless and useless meditations as well.

But soon after that, my Creator the Most Merciful was to have mercy on me and bring me to the only religion which is accepted in His Sight, namely Islam. I would take some years to fully embrace Islam and finally become Muslim by the mercy of Allah, the Almighty. Still some more years later, after having convinced my family that worshiping idols is not good at all, one day I decided to take all the statues still present in the house that I was raised and went to destroy all of them. I smashed them against rocks one by one with my own hands. None of them protested and none of these statues could defend themselves! It was a great moment to destroy those abominations. I then remembered how I hated them when I was young and finally I was allowed by Most Merciful to destroy those abominations. That was a great gift that God, the Almighty gave me by allowing me to destroy those abominations that were so hateful in my eyes and that I used to mock when I was still a little boy.

To anyone reading this and wanting to destroy statues on his/her property belonging to him/her, I would highly encourage you. This is the tradition of our father Prophet Abraham(peace be upon him) who was not only a Messenger of God the Almighty but he(pbuh) was also an intimate friend of God, the Almighty. Prophet Abraham (pbuh) destroyed the idols and statues of his father and his people. Anyone wanting to follow the tradition of this great Prophet of the Almighty, namely Abraham (pbuh) is highly encouraged to do so. Even Christians follow that tradition, watch the following video to witness Christian pastor Gino Jennings destroying idols in his own Church: https://youtu.be/5-o88dE0AJ0?t=500

Anyway, now my mom is no longer a Trinitarian as I have succeeded in convincing her of the abomination which is the Trinity and idol worship. I showed her verses from the Bible itself that she gave me when I was a kid to prove my case, and she listened and no more worships those nonsensical abominations which are idols. More and more Christians and other people too are realizing that worshipping idols is nonsense and more and more people are embracing Islam. Even Hindus are realizing that! Watch the following very interesting YT video of a Hindu cardiologist who narrates how his journey to Islam :https://youtu.be/wbpam3ba9kQ

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:09 pm**

Averroes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:51 pm Some members have expressed much anger at the following statement of mine:

Averroes wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:50 pm I too have smashed all the statues and tore up all the pictures that I had before embracing Islam. Those were my properties and I disposed of them as I wished. The interesting thing is that none of those statues could protect or defend themselves I smashed them into pieces, nor did they protest.
You make me laugh you people. Anyway, I greatly enjoyed destroying those statues. The pleasure was even multiplied for me because there was a great story behind it and an even greater blessing of Allah, the Almighty in allowing me to destroy those abominations that some people still worship. Let me tell you all about this great story of mine. This will make some of you more angry God willing. Whether you were to subsequently vent your anger or suppress it, it's all the same for me; I really don't care about your little tantrums as you may have already noticed.

It all goes back to when I was about 4 to 6 years old. I was not born in a Muslim family as you all already know. When I was about 4 to 6 years old, I used to mock at the statues that my surroundings used to worship. I already then really hated those abominations. I didn't know why then but it was genuine hate that I couldn't explain back then. I used to walk up to those statues and tell them in a menacing tone: "if you are god, why do you remain here all day? Don't you have better things to do?" Then I would gather some saliva in my mouth to spit in their direction. Once my then Trinitarian mother heard my little monologue and she lightly scolded me! After that I would wait when she was not watching to continue mocking these abominations. But sadly later I went to Trinitarian school and was taught corrupted teachings and became like my surroundings! Worst yet I even learned about the abomination which is nowadays Buddhism and practiced some heedless and useless meditations as well.

But soon after that, my Creator the Most Merciful was to have mercy on me and bring me to the only religion which is accepted in His Sight, namely Islam. I would take some years to fully embrace Islam and finally become Muslim by the mercy of Allah, the Almighty. Still some more years later, after having convinced my family that worshiping idols is not good at all, one day I decided to take all the statues still present in the house that I was raised and went to destroy all of them. I smashed them against rocks one by one with my own hands. None of them protested and none of these statues could defend themselves! It was a great moment to destroy those abominations. I then remembered how I hated them when I was young and finally I was allowed by Most Merciful to destroy those abominations. That was a great gift that God, the Almighty gave me by allowing me to destroy those abominations that were so hateful in my eyes and that I used to mock when I was still a little boy.

To anyone reading this and wanting to destroy statues on his/her property belonging to him/her, I would highly encourage you. This is the tradition of our father Prophet Abraham(peace be upon him) who was not only a Messenger of God the Almighty but he(pbuh) was also an intimate friend of God, the Almighty. Prophet Abraham (pbuh) destroyed the idols and statues of his father and his people. Anyone wanting to follow the tradition of this great Prophet of the Almighty, namely Abraham (pbuh) is highly encouraged to do so. Even Christians follow that tradition, watch the following video to witness Christian pastor Gino Jennings destroying idols in his own Church: https://youtu.be/5-o88dE0AJ0?t=500

Anyway, now my mom is no longer a Trinitarian as I have succeeded in convincing her of the abomination which is the Trinity and idol worship. I showed her verses from the Bible itself that she gave me when I was a kid to prove my case, and she listened and no more worships those nonsensical abominations which are idols. More and more Christians and other people too are realizing that worshipping idols is nonsense and more and more people are embracing Islam. Even Hindus are realizing that! Watch the following very interesting YT video of a Hindu cardiologist who narrates how his journey to Islam :https://youtu.be/wbpam3ba9kQ

Holy crap...you think WE intelligent people WORSHIP things made of wood or stone or plastic!?

Duh. We enjoy the aesthetic quality of such things you simple moron.

Go ahead break all the plastic, cement, wood figurines you feel compelled is an ABOMINATION...you stupid ****.

I bet you feel like some kind of soldier of Allah around here. Lol.

This is a cartoon of MOR_HAM_MAD --->

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:43 pm**

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:09 pm Go ahead break all the plastic, cement, wood figurines you feel compelled is an ABOMINATION.

I will, God willing. All people reading this and wanting to do the same, go ahead and you too do the same. attofishpi gave his consent.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:46 pm**

As a Christian, I appreciate God's influence throughout mans comprehension of ITS existence, including Buddhism. Islam unfortunately was only created by a paedophile warlord, NOT God.

A gift for the evil doctrine that is Islam, the cancer of the world:-

Hear no evil - Speak no evil - See no evil (I bet U can't work out which one is the odd one out - and Y?)
-- there is more wisdom there than in the entire Quran.
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Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:12 pm**

seeds wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:22 pm And as I await your rebuttal (should you choose to offer one), do you have a problem with me suggesting that the Creator of this universe, along with our ultimate purpose and eternal destiny, are infinitely more wondrous than what the Bible or the Quran have portrayed them to be?
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I just want some more information about this religion/way of life you are suggesting. Is there a name for this religion you are proposing? Where can I get more information on it? I have investigated all religions I could find, practiced most of them, and finally embraced Islam. And so far I can say with certainty that Islam is the best of all religions. But I want to investigate the religion you are suggesting. Please can you provide me some more information on it.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:17 pm**

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:58 am
seeds wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:25 pm
Atla wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:26 pm
Or maybe God is a stupid, sadistic little kid with superpowers, and doesn't reveal himself so he can laugh at our confusion.
Yes, Atla, that may indeed be a possibility.

However, I would suggest that any kid that has figured out how to produce (or perhaps program) a dimension of reality where unsupervised patterns of information can cause the creation and subsequent stitching together of proteins that know when to differentiate between the opaque blueness of the iris and the glass-like clearness of the pupil of the human eye...

...can hardly be called “stupid.”

And yes, we are no doubt an amusing batch of idiots to behold.
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Maybe, maybe not. There are more atoms in my hand than there are stars in the known universe. When I open and close my hand, I correctly rearrange all those atoms across space and time all at once, and I have no idea how I do it.

Well, obviously, you don’t really need to know how you do it. And that’s because it has already been pre-arranged to work that way for you without you having to think about it.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 5:58 am It's possible that our God is a stupid little kid, who is like Q from Star Trek, he just snaps his fingers and creates or rearranges or erases a universe, but has no idea how he does it. Orders of complexity may go on forever, even beyond our God.

Nah, Q wasn’t stupid, for he seemed to possess a certain degree of omniscience when it came to knowing the alternate outcomes of Picard’s choices, of which Q allowed Picard to experience (at least once that I can remember – something to do with Picard wishing he had made a different choice about something in his past).

Q was simply capricious and mean-spirited while embodying the theme of that old Cindy Lauper song: “Gods just wanna have fu-un”

Furthermore, if the God you have in mind is indeed a little kid who simply snaps his fingers and reality conforms to his whims...

(without him having any understanding of how and why the process works)

...then his finger snappings sure do come with a lot of intricate back-story details.

For example, in how we seem to be under the impression that the manifestation of the human body is a product of the architectural design information imbued within a “solar-powered” DNA molecule that, after 9 months of guiding cellular divisions and protein manufacturing, produces one of us.

(I suppose it could be viewed as the extreme slow-motion results of a finger snap.)

And as it relates to the long-forgotten topic of this thread, then the number of God-like beings implied in what is called the “Q Continuum” would put the paltry Trinity to shame.

We sure do love our stories.
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Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:24 pm**

Averroes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:12 pm
seeds wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:22 pm And as I await your rebuttal (should you choose to offer one), do you have a problem with me suggesting that the Creator of this universe, along with our ultimate purpose and eternal destiny, are infinitely more wondrous than what the Bible or the Quran have portrayed them to be?
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I just want some more information about this religion/way of life you are suggesting. Is there a name for this religion you are proposing? Where can I get more information on it? I have investigated all religions I could find, practiced most of them, and finally embraced Islam. And so far I can say with certainty that Islam is the best of all religions. But I want to investigate the religion you are suggesting. Please can you provide me some more information on it.

No, you stick to Islam, and continue to reincarnate into it until such time that you KILL in the name of God - and then reincarnate as the beast 666.

...and yet in this life, God had your soul born into Christianity..and you refused HIM.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:30 pm**

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:24 pm ...and yet in this life, God had your soul born into Christianity..and you refused HIM.

Yes that's true, I refused the Trinitarian Christianity that I was born into. It was way too much BS that I could take. No offense to you, but that was just not for me.
A lot of people have refused it too, like Yusuf Estes: https://youtu.be/LEKgxZbFG_k
And also Lucy:https://youtu.be/j2mDpahBPx8

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:42 pm**

Averroes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:30 pm
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:24 pm ...and yet in this life, God had your soul born into Christianity..and you refused HIM.
Yes that's true, I refused the Trinitarian Christianity that I was born into. It was way too much BS that I could take. No offense to you, but that was just not for me.

Personally, I have never given a shit about 'trinities' and such things - I am not a sheep - I think for myself about things. Whether there is a trinity or not is trivial.

Where was your soul before you were born?

Why did God place your soul into the birthplace of a Christian family?

Why do you think the words of Mohamad - a paedophile and a warmonger, is more worthy than the words of Jesus Christ - a man that preached kindness and respect for one another and allowed himself to be sacrificed to insist on SUCH THINGS ?

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:49 pm**

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:42 pma paedophile

I see you use that word often. What does a paedophile mean to you?

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:58 pm**

Averroes, you should respect your mother and allow that her religion is her own business. Disrespect of mothers of families is not proper Muslim behaviour. Have you no father who will pull you up for disrespecting your mother?

It is a great pity that the only Muslim who frequents this board is a religious nut.You are flighty and have changed your religion too often for a reasonable man. This chopping and changing of religions rather shows you are not thinking for yourself but are a psychological chameleon who has to join something to feel real.

As for your attitude towards the Holy Trinity, there are many decent people who are Trinitarians. You are dangerously intolerant. Intolerance is often felt by converts. Have you not got an Imam who can direct you?

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:12 pm**

Belinda wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:58 pm Averroes, you should respect your mother and allow that her religion is her own business. Disrespect of mothers of families is not proper Muslim behaviour. Have you no father who will pull you up for disrespecting your mother?

It is a great pity that the only Muslim who frequents this board is a religious nut.

I do respect both my parents. And both now know that we should worship God, the Almighty alone. It is because I have much love and respect for them that I invite them with humility to worship God, the Almighty alone. And my mother specially is the one who gave me her Bible to read when I was a little boy. The same Bible I used to show her that biblical Jesus was not God nor did he ever claimed to be. And as she is an intelligent woman, she understood like so many other Christians. And as we are not arrogant people, we have no problem admitting our past mistakes and start correctng ourselves after having repented to God, the Almighty who created us.

Posted: **Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:25 pm**

Averroes wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:12 pm
Belinda wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:58 pm Averroes, you should respect your mother and allow that her religion is her own business. Disrespect of mothers of families is not proper Muslim behaviour. Have you no father who will pull you up for disrespecting your mother?

It is a great pity that the only Muslim who frequents this board is a religious nut.
I do respect both my parents. And both now know that we should worship God, the Almighty alone. It is because I have much love and respect for them that I invite them with humility to worship God, the Almighty alone. And my mother specially is the one who gave me her Bible to read when I was a little boy. The same Bible I used to show her that biblical Jesus was not God nor did he ever claimed to be. And as she is an intelligent woman, she understood like so many other Christians. And as we are not arrogant people, we have no problem admitting our past mistakes and start correctng ourselves after having repented to God, the Almighty who created us.

You are a bossy boots who thinks he knows best. But you don't. You have wavered between one prefabricated ideology and another until you arrived at Islam where you found the simple moral tenets you need. Look to the greater jihad which you have not mastered.

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