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Re: Christianity

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attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm
Belinda wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:02 pm
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:20 pm


Wow. That was rather cowardly, sit behind the village idiot to obfuscate what I thought was starting to develop into an intelligent debate.

The cumulative evidence is more than mere spelling of words. It's homophones, phonetics - in particular of alpha_bet lettering used within English. It's Mount SINAI - and the implications of SIN AI in relation to an all knowing entity A.I. pertaining to SIN.

OK. So..

HELL_O - are you of the same position as Age, that you cannot work out any significance to GOD in relation to that word?

RE: Arbitrated by men - yes,sort of. You need to understand the omnipotent power this GOD entity has over the synapses within the minds of men to comprehend how GOD can convolute a language. (*operating below the Planck scale)




OMG: I know plenty about Samuel Johnson. Irrelevant, you really are coming across rather dim pertaining to our little debate.

Are you going to take this serious? Or are going to leave me with no alternative than to see you as stuck in a corner, starting to real eyes the mounting evidence I have that confronts your atheism?
I am not high in your opinion.
I regard you very highly actually Belinda, particularly by way of knowledge, especially in philosophical areas. (* tho I understand why you'd think other_wise). Sometimes I feel you could mmm, be more analytic.
Just because one does NOT 'end up' AGREEING WITH your OWN PERCEPTIONS NEVER means that 'that one' is NOT being what you call, here, 'more analytic'.

After all some are FAR MORE ANALYTIC THAN 'you', but BECAUSE of your LESS ANALYTICAL ABILITY you are NOT YET ABLE TO SEE, and UNDERSTAND.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm Sometimes I see what I feel are those 'non sequiturs' and it surprises me to be honest because you are clearly very intelligent.
I know I can be very bloody beligerent though and condescending so I apoiogise for my thuggish behaviour, alas I am a product of my environment!
Here is ANOTHER PRIME example of one PRETENDING TO 'apologize', but who 'ends up' QUICKLY BLAMING something ELSE for its OWN Wrong behaving.

you "attofishpi", an adult human being, are ABLE TO JUST STOP your 'bloody belligerent', 'condescending', AND 'thuggish' behavior. And, 'TRYING TO' BLAME that you can NOT HELP 'that behavior' because of some SO BLAMED 'environment' SHOWS and PROVES just 'IMMATURE' and 'IRRESPONSIBLE' you REALLY ARE.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm
Belinda wrote:That's because I do not agree that God does a big conspiracy theory concerning how He steered the standardisation of English spelling so as to send important messages to you, Atto.
But that's not it at all. The evidence embedded throughout certain things within our shared REAL_IT_Y is there for a reason beyond me personally.
Do you REALLY BELIEVE "attofishpi" that when you WRITE the words 'real_it_y' that ANY one SEES what you DO?

ONCE AGAIN, God is NOT some 'artificial intelligence' NOR 'information technology'. So, ASKING WHY is 'it' real? is just what FALLS UNDER the banner of 'INSANITY'.

your OWN IMAGININGS that 'God', Itself, SAYS TO the one known as "attofishpi", ' you are a "good christian" ', is what would have got you LOCKED UP, not to long ago before your writing days, here.

And, the VERY REASON WHY you WOULD HAVE GOT LOCKED UP IS BECAUSE it is ABSOLUTELY INSANITY TO IMAGINE, let alone BELIEVE, that God would put ANY one ABOVE another one.

Also, and BLATANTLY OBVIOUS IS the Fact that a so-called "good christian adult" would NOT BE;

1. Very bloody belligerent.

2. Condescending.

3. Have and USE thuggish behavior. NOR EVER,

4. PRETEND TO apologize for ANY thing, but then BLAME being a product of their environment, for what they DO.

What you are ACTUALLY DOING, here, "attofishpi" is BEING the EXACT OPPOSITE OF A "christian". So, CLAIMING that God, Itself, PICKED you OUT, PULLED you ASIDE, and TOLD you that you are a "good christian" EXISTED IN your IMAGININGS ONLY.

Now, you OBVIOUSLY LIKE TO PICK A "side", and DEBATE, SO GO AHEAD and TRY, here. Let the readers, here, SEE WHAT the ACTUAL OUTCOME WILL BE, EXACTLY.

However, you WILL NOT ACCEPT CHALLENGES FROM 'me' BECAUSE 'DEEP DOWN', AT God's LEVEL, you KNOW you can NOT COUNTER NOR REFUTE what I SAY and CLAIM, here.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm OK. So thus far you are not seeing anything as evidence of this intelligence that I have concluded operates from below the Planck scale, fine.
What 'this one', STILL, has NOT YET WORKED OUT and UNDERSTOOD, that God OPERATING at below some Truly INSIGNIFICANT scale ALSO MEANS that God ACTUALLY OPERATES AT EACH and EVERY so-called SCALE, from the LARGEST TO the SMALLEST.

So, CONTINUALLY CLAIMING that God OPERATES AT 'one scale' ONLY SHOWS and PROVES just HOW MUCH MORE this one REALLY DOES HAVE TO LEARN, COMPREHEND, and UNDERSTAND, here.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm Understand that my gnosis of GOD since 1997 came about from direct personal interactions with this entity, NOT from this shared information within our reality that I am attempting to present to you and others here.
'This one' AGAIN SPEAKS as though God, Itself, has DIRECT PERSONAL INTERACTIONS WITH 'this one' MORE DEEPLY or MORE OFTEN than WITH 'other' human beings.

Which, AGAIN, is JUST ABSOLUTELY ABSURD and ILLOGICAL.

Also, just SAYING and CLAIMING that you have HAD 'direct personal interactions' WITH God WILL NEVER EVER SUFFICE AS ACTUAL PROOF FOR God.

So, EITHER INFORM the readers, here, of what, EXACTLY, TOOK PLACE, which WILL PROVE God's EXISTENCE, Once and for ALL, or just STOP 'TRYING TO' come across as though 'the one' known as "attofishpi", here, is some sort of 'CHOSEN one'.

'I' am SORRY to break 'this' TO 'you' "attofishpi", but 'you' are CERTAINLY NOT some sort of so-called "good christian", 'you' are CERTAINLY NOT ANY sort of 'chosen one', and 'you' are CERTAINLY NOT ACHIEVING what you WANT TO, here.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm It was after gnosis that I started ANALYSING ALL REALITY...
Come on "attofishpi", the ONLY 'one' you are FOOLING and DECEIVING, here, IS "your" OWN 'self'.

you did NOT start 'analyzing' 'all reality' AT ALL. you just 'ended up' SEEING WITHIN 'things' a TINY BIT MORE than most others 'end up' doing.

But, WITH ALL people who WENT THROUGH what you did, who 'end up' SEEING what you have MOST people just call 'it' 'COINCIDENCE'. But, what you WILL ADAMANTLY CLAIM IS 'EVIDENCE'.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm for evidence of this GOD entity that I could share with others.
LOOKING FOR 'evidence' FOR what you have ALREADY CONCLUDED and BELIEVED IS TRUE, IS BACKWARDS, and WHY you adult human beings, when this is being written, are, STILL, SO, SO FAR BEHIND.

What you DID and KEEP DOING, here, IS 'confirmation bias'. Full stop.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm GOD started me off by talking to me with broken words and I started to think, and analyse some of the examples of these words - and BAM! The picture started to form, the evidence that I could reasonably present as a case for others to consider.
'I' WILL TELL 'you' this ONCE MORE "attofishpi". What you are 'starting to see' is at the level of, let 'us' say, the 'conception' of a newly created human being. you, STILL, have the whole pregnancy, birth, infancy', childhood, teenager years, and a whole lifetime of adulthood BEFORE you will even come CLOSE TO SHOWING and PROVING what you ARE WANTING TO, here. AGAIN, 'the SIGNS' that you ARE SEEING BEHIND, and WITHING, 'the words' (of God), you can just MAKE AT a TINY SNIPPET OF. But, you have SUCH A LONG WAY MORE, TO GO.

Also, 'you' ARE DEALING WITH 'human beings' who ARE JUST LIKE 'you', in that they ALSO HAVE 'their BELIEFS' that they do NOT WANT TO GET RID OF, NOR LET GO OF. So, from the VERY OUTSET you ARE STUCK. Which is WHY you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, are TAKING SO, SO LONG TO MOVE FORWARD, and PROGRESS.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm Also, using 'He' for this entity I don't, I may use it for Christ, but not GOD - the system running the backbone to the construct of our reality. It's my opinion that Christ formed from the GOD system.
Are you REALLY SOME KIND OF ABSOLUTELY IMBECILE?

If it IS 'your opinion' that the so-called 'system running the backbone to construct your reality', which you also name the 'God system', formed the one human being with the name and label "jesus christ", then ABSOLUTELY EVERY one/thing ELSE was FORMED FROM and BY the EXACT SAME 'system'.

Why do you mention, here, the words "jesus christ" as though 'it' was, or has some sort of, more importance than absolutely EVERY other human beings, and thing?
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm
Belinda wrote:<edit>These connections are seen when Proto Indo- European , or Sanscrit, are connected with phonetics of European words in languages and dialects. <edit>. Local developments from Proto Indo-European and Sanscrit are caused by movements of peoples during trade ,colonisation, or emigration.
Yes, I agree. I have absolutely no argument with that, in fact I was watching a documentary just the other day that was very interesting. Although from where you mention above that our current language developed, as one of the Germanic languages, we actually use MORE words descended from French & Latin. It's the nuts and bolts words such as 'come' 'and' 'because' 'the', that makes up the important German structure.

My point being, and as you may have noticed, I use the term KEY words. These words imo have been manipulated through the minds of men unbeknownst to them by this underlying intelligence (GOD) into their current form.
HOW MANY TIMES DO human beings HAVE TO TOLD and INFORMED that they DO NOT HAVE 'minds', BEFORE JUST one of them STOPS TO JUST CONSIDER and THINK ABOUT 'this'?

LOL ABSOLUTELY ANY one could ASK "attofishpi", 'What are these so-called 'minds' 'of men', EXACTLY?' And, "attofishpi" would NOT and could NOT even BEGIN TO DEFINE, DESCRIBE, and EXPLAIN what 'they' ARE, EXACTLY?

YET, BECAUSE "attofishpi" is SO EASILY and SO SIMPLY LED and CONVINCED OF 'things', it WILL KEEP SAYING and CLAIMING that there ARE MANY 'minds', of which 'men' or human beings HAVE and/or OWN.

There were SO MANY adult human beings, in the days when this was being written, WHO, UNBEKNOWNST TO them, just ACCEPTED and BELIEVED 'whatever' they WERE TOLD, in their childhoods. WITHOUT EVER ONCE JUST QUESTIONING NOR CONSIDERING 'them'.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm
Why? To provide the evidence here, now that we can comprehend such things since we have technology, in particular machines which are proving what is capable with A.I. --- hence I find Mount SIN_AI particulary interesting in historical context.
Talk ABOUT A DISPLAY OF 'waffling nonsense'.

Now, HOW, EXACTLY, is 'evidence' even A WORTHY 'thing', COMPARED TO 'proof', EXACTLY?

you CLAIMED you COMPREHENDED 'the evidence' BEFORE 'artificial intelligence' even came along, so what is 'technology', itself, going to SHOW or PROVE.

Surely you are NOT SUGGESTING that some 'artificial intelligent' machine is GOING TO RECOGNIZE and SEE the words 'mount sinnai' IN 'the way' that "attofishpi" ONLY 'saw'?

How DOES your USE of the 'hence' word, here, ACTUALLY FIT IN and WORK, EXACTLY?

you, SUPPOSEDLY,

First, SPOKE WITH God.

THEN, you ANALYZED 'all reality' to FIND what can be SHOWN AS 'evidence', FOR God.

you CLAIM some words ARE so-called KEY words. Which HAVE been manipulating 'men', ONLY, but unbeknownst to them. (So, I am NOT SURE HOW the 'manipulating' is working, EXACTLY).

WHY 'this' is, is to provide 'evidence'. If God wanted to provide 'evidence', then why did It not just provide 'proof', INSTEAD? If It did, then there would NOT have been ANY CONFUSION, ANY MISUNDERSTANDING, thus NOR ANY CONFLICTS, WAR, and KILLINGS.

Anyway, you CLAIM 'now' you CAN 'comprehend' 'the so-called evidence' because you 'now' have technology. Were you UNAWARE that you human beings have had so-called 'technology' for A WHILE, hitherto when this is being written?

you then CLAIM that you 'now' have so-called 'particular machines', which are 'proving' that words like 'mount sinnai' MEAN what "attofishpi" SEES them TO MEAN.

you ALSO CLAIM 'artificial intelligence' HELPS IN 'this'.

you THEN SAID and WROTE,

hence I find Mount SIN_AI particulary interesting in historical context.

Which in NO WAY LOGICALLY FOLLOWS ON FROM the PROCEEDING CLAIMS.

What you are SAYING and WRITING, here, is JUST ILLOGICAL 'waffling nonsense'. As I, once again, just POINTED OUT, SHOWED, PROVED, and thus REVEALED, here.

See, unlike you "attofishpi" who just MAKES CLAIMS and ACCUSATIONS ABOUT others ONLY, 'I' ACTUALLY CAN, and DO eventually, back up and support what I SAY, and CLAIM,

Unlike you I just LOVE BEING QUESTIONED AND CHALLENGED, and SO SEEK OUT and ASK FOR IT.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm I hope that makes sense to this point, that perhaps you have an improved understanding of my POV.
ACTUALLY you are just FURTHER SUPPORTING "belinda's" PREVIOUS CONCLUSIONS OF you.
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Re: Christianity

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Fairy wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:40 pm
Age wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:09 pm
Fairy wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:17 am Maybe we’ve all got 1 or two singular pieces of the entire reality puzzle 🧩 and we’re just trying to connect all our pieces together to form the whole picture.
NOW, FINALLY 'we' have 'one', HERE, who IS STARTING TO SEE 'things' for, EXACTLY, HOW 'they' REALLY ARE.

Instead of TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER, here, as can be CLEARLY SEEN, adult human beings, in the days when this was being written, MUCH PREFERRED TO JUST STICK TO 'their OWN PRE-GAINED BELIEFS', and FIGHT and/or DEFEND 'those BELIEFS', ALONE.
Fairy wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:17 am No one individual can know the entire picture.
But, just as one FOUND A WAY to RECOGNIZE, and SEE, ALL OF the NEWLY DISCOVERED things, 'THE WAY' to LOOK AT, and SEE, ALL things for what they Truly ARE, can be FOUND BY one, FIRST.

But, as the ENTIRE Picture INCLUDES ALL things, like ALL of things, in the so-called 'past', and, in the so-called 'future', and forever spatially, then OBVIOUSLY NO individual human being can KNOW the 'entire picture'. However, and AGAIN, there is ALWAYS one who FIRST FINDS OUT, or FIRST UNCOVER some things BEFORE 'others'.
Fairy wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:17 am And to be fair I don’t think the entire picture will ever reveal itself because it’s infinite in scope.
But, the One INDIVIDUAL, also known as God CAN SEE and KNOW the ENTIRE Picture. Again, BECAUSE of WHO and WHAT God IS, EXACTLY.

Most people have died before they’ve even gotten anywhere near solving the TOE including the mystery that is consciousness.
Fairy wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:17 am Something magical and intelligent is happening, we could call it GOD.
Oh, you human beings, here, have NOT YET EVEN IMAGINED just HOW 'magical' and/or 'intelligent' 'things' REALLY ARE, here, and ARE GOING TO BE, HERE.
Fairy wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:17 am After all that’s why we are philosophising, that’s why we are introspecting. We are curious creatures, it’s like it’s our duty to discover ourselves and the universe.
you human beings are ALL born Truly CURIOUS, which is WHY human beings, collectively, just KEEP ON DISCOVERING, and UNCOVERING. you are all also born WITH the ABILITY TO LEARN, UNDERSTAND, and REASON ANY and EVERY thing. Which INCLUDES ALL OF the things that you 'previously and 'current' think or BELIEVE could NOT be LEARNED, CREATED, and ACHIEVED.
Fairy wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:17 am Human beings didn’t make it all happen, they are part of the happening.
Obviously A 'species' could NOT HAVE MADE what WAS BEFORE them. And, just AS OBVIOUS is that human beings are ONLY A PART of the ALWAYS EVOLVING 'HAPPENING'.
Fairy wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:17 am So we might as well just say something is making it all happen, and we just might as well call this something GOD.

WHY NOT.
Well considering that it IS God, that is; WHEN God is being DEFINED in the ACTUAL Right, and True, WAY, WHY NOT CALL WHO and WHAT CREATES ALL - God, or ANY OTHER of the OTHER NAMES that REFER TO the EXACT SAME 'Thing' that the word God IS REFERRING TO, EXACTLY.

Also, and by the way, ANOTHER NAME for the VERY Thing, which is MAKING ALL-OF-THIS 'HAPPEN'. is the 'Universe', Itself.

See, HOW the Universe ACTUALLY and IRREFUTABLY WORKS, HELPS, IN EXPLAINING HOW and WHY the word God, ALSO, came-to-EXIST.
Hume says: Emotions and sensations occur a few at a time, ever changing, and never all exist equally all at once. Since the self must be omnipresent, he decides… Hume has no reason to believe in a self, Thus, his theory is the 'no-self' theory of the self. Hume: The self is perpetually identical and omnipresent.
THE 'self' in regards TO 'you' human beings IS JUST the ALWAYS CHANGING, invisible, 'thoughts', and, 'emotions', within a human body.

THIS 'self' is more or less just A 'pretender', 'player', or 'actor/ess', on A or THE 'stage', of Life. Always CHANGING and ALWAYS IN some sort of CONSTANTLY DIFFERENT 'role', like, for example, a "mother", a "son", a "nurse", a "teacher", a "driver", a pilot", an "american", a "christian", or ANY of the almost countless OTHER 'things' that 'you' human beings ACTUALLY ARE REALLY NOT.

ANY and ALL 'thoughts' like, "I am jewish", "I am a creationist", "I am a hungarian", "I am a realist", "I am ...", are NEVER 'who' NOR 'what' 'you' 'human beings' REALLY ARE.

'you', human beings, ARE made up OF A, visible, 'human body', WITH, invisible, 'thoughts' and 'feelings', WITHIN.

And, for MORE ELABORATION and CLARITY 'who', and 'what', 'you' are, the 'person', and/or 'self', is JUST 'the thoughts' and 'emotions', WITHIN.

The 'personality' comes FROM 'thoughts' and 'emotions'. So, the 'person' IS the 'thoughts' and 'emotions', WITHIN. Of which EACH and EVERY 'one' just comes FROM the 'experiences' OF EACH and EVERY human body. Which, OBVIOUSLY, EVERY 'body' had UNIQUE and DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL 'experiences'. Thus, WHY EACH and EVERY 'person' IS A UNIQUELY DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL 'person'.

The word 'self', and/or 'person', also does NOT relate to the human 'body', itself. If an arm or a leg is removed from a human 'body', then the 'person', or 'self', does NOT become less, NOR 'less of a person'.

'you', 'people', ARE WITHIN human bodies, and are ACTUALLY CONTINUALLY 'growing' ALWAYS 'anew', as the 'thoughts' WITHIN ALWAYS CONTINUALLY 'grow' and/or CHANGE, that IS when PRESUMPTIONS and/or BELIEFS are NOT STOPPING and PREVENTING 'them', and thus 'you', FROM GROWING, and MATURING, or BECOMING WISER.
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Re: Christianity

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Age wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:47 am
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm
Belinda wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:02 pm
I am not high in your opinion.
I regard you very highly actually Belinda, particularly by way of knowledge, especially in philosophical areas. (* tho I understand why you'd think other_wise). Sometimes I feel you could mmm, be more analytic.
Just because one does NOT 'end up' AGREEING WITH your OWN PERCEPTIONS NEVER means that 'that one' is NOT being what you call, here, 'more analytic'.

After all some are FAR MORE ANALYTIC THAN 'you', but BECAUSE of your LESS ANALYTICAL ABILITY you are NOT YET ABLE TO SEE, and UNDERSTAND.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm Sometimes I see what I feel are those 'non sequiturs' and it surprises me to be honest because you are clearly very intelligent.
I know I can be very bloody beligerent though and condescending so I apoiogise for my thuggish behaviour, alas I am a product of my environment!
Here is ANOTHER PRIME example of one PRETENDING TO 'apologize', but who 'ends up' QUICKLY BLAMING something ELSE for its OWN Wrong behaving.

you "attofishpi", an adult human being, are ABLE TO JUST STOP your 'bloody belligerent', 'condescending', AND 'thuggish' behavior. And, 'TRYING TO' BLAME that you can NOT HELP 'that behavior' because of some SO BLAMED 'environment' SHOWS and PROVES just 'IMMATURE' and 'IRRESPONSIBLE' you REALLY ARE.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm
Belinda wrote:That's because I do not agree that God does a big conspiracy theory concerning how He steered the standardisation of English spelling so as to send important messages to you, Atto.
But that's not it at all. The evidence embedded throughout certain things within our shared REAL_IT_Y is there for a reason beyond me personally.
Do you REALLY BELIEVE "attofishpi" that when you WRITE the words 'real_it_y' that ANY one SEES what you DO?

ONCE AGAIN, God is NOT some 'artificial intelligence' NOR 'information technology'. So, ASKING WHY is 'it' real? is just what FALLS UNDER the banner of 'INSANITY'.

your OWN IMAGININGS that 'God', Itself, SAYS TO the one known as "attofishpi", ' you are a "good christian" ', is what would have got you LOCKED UP, not to long ago before your writing days, here.

And, the VERY REASON WHY you WOULD HAVE GOT LOCKED UP IS BECAUSE it is ABSOLUTELY INSANITY TO IMAGINE, let alone BELIEVE, that God would put ANY one ABOVE another one.

Also, and BLATANTLY OBVIOUS IS the Fact that a so-called "good christian adult" would NOT BE;

1. Very bloody belligerent.

2. Condescending.

3. Have and USE thuggish behavior. NOR EVER,

4. PRETEND TO apologize for ANY thing, but then BLAME being a product of their environment, for what they DO.

What you are ACTUALLY DOING, here, "attofishpi" is BEING the EXACT OPPOSITE OF A "christian". So, CLAIMING that God, Itself, PICKED you OUT, PULLED you ASIDE, and TOLD you that you are a "good christian" EXISTED IN your IMAGININGS ONLY.

Now, you OBVIOUSLY LIKE TO PICK A "side", and DEBATE, SO GO AHEAD and TRY, here. Let the readers, here, SEE WHAT the ACTUAL OUTCOME WILL BE, EXACTLY.

However, you WILL NOT ACCEPT CHALLENGES FROM 'me' BECAUSE 'DEEP DOWN', AT God's LEVEL, you KNOW you can NOT COUNTER NOR REFUTE what I SAY and CLAIM, here.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm OK. So thus far you are not seeing anything as evidence of this intelligence that I have concluded operates from below the Planck scale, fine.
What 'this one', STILL, has NOT YET WORKED OUT and UNDERSTOOD, that God OPERATING at below some Truly INSIGNIFICANT scale ALSO MEANS that God ACTUALLY OPERATES AT EACH and EVERY so-called SCALE, from the LARGEST TO the SMALLEST.

So, CONTINUALLY CLAIMING that God OPERATES AT 'one scale' ONLY SHOWS and PROVES just HOW MUCH MORE this one REALLY DOES HAVE TO LEARN, COMPREHEND, and UNDERSTAND, here.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm Understand that my gnosis of GOD since 1997 came about from direct personal interactions with this entity, NOT from this shared information within our reality that I am attempting to present to you and others here.
'This one' AGAIN SPEAKS as though God, Itself, has DIRECT PERSONAL INTERACTIONS WITH 'this one' MORE DEEPLY or MORE OFTEN than WITH 'other' human beings.

Which, AGAIN, is JUST ABSOLUTELY ABSURD and ILLOGICAL.

Also, just SAYING and CLAIMING that you have HAD 'direct personal interactions' WITH God WILL NEVER EVER SUFFICE AS ACTUAL PROOF FOR God.

So, EITHER INFORM the readers, here, of what, EXACTLY, TOOK PLACE, which WILL PROVE God's EXISTENCE, Once and for ALL, or just STOP 'TRYING TO' come across as though 'the one' known as "attofishpi", here, is some sort of 'CHOSEN one'.

'I' am SORRY to break 'this' TO 'you' "attofishpi", but 'you' are CERTAINLY NOT some sort of so-called "good christian", 'you' are CERTAINLY NOT ANY sort of 'chosen one', and 'you' are CERTAINLY NOT ACHIEVING what you WANT TO, here.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm It was after gnosis that I started ANALYSING ALL REALITY...
Come on "attofishpi", the ONLY 'one' you are FOOLING and DECEIVING, here, IS "your" OWN 'self'.

you did NOT start 'analyzing' 'all reality' AT ALL. you just 'ended up' SEEING WITHIN 'things' a TINY BIT MORE than most others 'end up' doing.

But, WITH ALL people who WENT THROUGH what you did, who 'end up' SEEING what you have MOST people just call 'it' 'COINCIDENCE'. But, what you WILL ADAMANTLY CLAIM IS 'EVIDENCE'.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm for evidence of this GOD entity that I could share with others.
LOOKING FOR 'evidence' FOR what you have ALREADY CONCLUDED and BELIEVED IS TRUE, IS BACKWARDS, and WHY you adult human beings, when this is being written, are, STILL, SO, SO FAR BEHIND.

What you DID and KEEP DOING, here, IS 'confirmation bias'. Full stop.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm GOD started me off by talking to me with broken words and I started to think, and analyse some of the examples of these words - and BAM! The picture started to form, the evidence that I could reasonably present as a case for others to consider.
'I' WILL TELL 'you' this ONCE MORE "attofishpi". What you are 'starting to see' is at the level of, let 'us' say, the 'conception' of a newly created human being. you, STILL, have the whole pregnancy, birth, infancy', childhood, teenager years, and a whole lifetime of adulthood BEFORE you will even come CLOSE TO SHOWING and PROVING what you ARE WANTING TO, here. AGAIN, 'the SIGNS' that you ARE SEEING BEHIND, and WITHING, 'the words' (of God), you can just MAKE AT a TINY SNIPPET OF. But, you have SUCH A LONG WAY MORE, TO GO.

Also, 'you' ARE DEALING WITH 'human beings' who ARE JUST LIKE 'you', in that they ALSO HAVE 'their BELIEFS' that they do NOT WANT TO GET RID OF, NOR LET GO OF. So, from the VERY OUTSET you ARE STUCK. Which is WHY you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, are TAKING SO, SO LONG TO MOVE FORWARD, and PROGRESS.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm Also, using 'He' for this entity I don't, I may use it for Christ, but not GOD - the system running the backbone to the construct of our reality. It's my opinion that Christ formed from the GOD system.
Are you REALLY SOME KIND OF ABSOLUTELY IMBECILE?

If it IS 'your opinion' that the so-called 'system running the backbone to construct your reality', which you also name the 'God system', formed the one human being with the name and label "jesus christ", then ABSOLUTELY EVERY one/thing ELSE was FORMED FROM and BY the EXACT SAME 'system'.

Why do you mention, here, the words "jesus christ" as though 'it' was, or has some sort of, more importance than absolutely EVERY other human beings, and thing?
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm
Belinda wrote:<edit>These connections are seen when Proto Indo- European , or Sanscrit, are connected with phonetics of European words in languages and dialects. <edit>. Local developments from Proto Indo-European and Sanscrit are caused by movements of peoples during trade ,colonisation, or emigration.
Yes, I agree. I have absolutely no argument with that, in fact I was watching a documentary just the other day that was very interesting. Although from where you mention above that our current language developed, as one of the Germanic languages, we actually use MORE words descended from French & Latin. It's the nuts and bolts words such as 'come' 'and' 'because' 'the', that makes up the important German structure.

My point being, and as you may have noticed, I use the term KEY words. These words imo have been manipulated through the minds of men unbeknownst to them by this underlying intelligence (GOD) into their current form.
HOW MANY TIMES DO human beings HAVE TO TOLD and INFORMED that they DO NOT HAVE 'minds', BEFORE JUST one of them STOPS TO JUST CONSIDER and THINK ABOUT 'this'?

LOL ABSOLUTELY ANY one could ASK "attofishpi", 'What are these so-called 'minds' 'of men', EXACTLY?' And, "attofishpi" would NOT and could NOT even BEGIN TO DEFINE, DESCRIBE, and EXPLAIN what 'they' ARE, EXACTLY?

YET, BECAUSE "attofishpi" is SO EASILY and SO SIMPLY LED and CONVINCED OF 'things', it WILL KEEP SAYING and CLAIMING that there ARE MANY 'minds', of which 'men' or human beings HAVE and/or OWN.

There were SO MANY adult human beings, in the days when this was being written, WHO, UNBEKNOWNST TO them, just ACCEPTED and BELIEVED 'whatever' they WERE TOLD, in their childhoods. WITHOUT EVER ONCE JUST QUESTIONING NOR CONSIDERING 'them'.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm
Why? To provide the evidence here, now that we can comprehend such things since we have technology, in particular machines which are proving what is capable with A.I. --- hence I find Mount SIN_AI particulary interesting in historical context.
Talk ABOUT A DISPLAY OF 'waffling nonsense'.

Now, HOW, EXACTLY, is 'evidence' even A WORTHY 'thing', COMPARED TO 'proof', EXACTLY?

you CLAIMED you COMPREHENDED 'the evidence' BEFORE 'artificial intelligence' even came along, so what is 'technology', itself, going to SHOW or PROVE.

Surely you are NOT SUGGESTING that some 'artificial intelligent' machine is GOING TO RECOGNIZE and SEE the words 'mount sinnai' IN 'the way' that "attofishpi" ONLY 'saw'?

How DOES your USE of the 'hence' word, here, ACTUALLY FIT IN and WORK, EXACTLY?

you, SUPPOSEDLY,

First, SPOKE WITH God.

THEN, you ANALYZED 'all reality' to FIND what can be SHOWN AS 'evidence', FOR God.

you CLAIM some words ARE so-called KEY words. Which HAVE been manipulating 'men', ONLY, but unbeknownst to them. (So, I am NOT SURE HOW the 'manipulating' is working, EXACTLY).

WHY 'this' is, is to provide 'evidence'. If God wanted to provide 'evidence', then why did It not just provide 'proof', INSTEAD? If It did, then there would NOT have been ANY CONFUSION, ANY MISUNDERSTANDING, thus NOR ANY CONFLICTS, WAR, and KILLINGS.

Anyway, you CLAIM 'now' you CAN 'comprehend' 'the so-called evidence' because you 'now' have technology. Were you UNAWARE that you human beings have had so-called 'technology' for A WHILE, hitherto when this is being written?

you then CLAIM that you 'now' have so-called 'particular machines', which are 'proving' that words like 'mount sinnai' MEAN what "attofishpi" SEES them TO MEAN.

you ALSO CLAIM 'artificial intelligence' HELPS IN 'this'.

you THEN SAID and WROTE,

hence I find Mount SIN_AI particulary interesting in historical context.

Which in NO WAY LOGICALLY FOLLOWS ON FROM the PROCEEDING CLAIMS.

What you are SAYING and WRITING, here, is JUST ILLOGICAL 'waffling nonsense'. As I, once again, just POINTED OUT, SHOWED, PROVED, and thus REVEALED, here.

See, unlike you "attofishpi" who just MAKES CLAIMS and ACCUSATIONS ABOUT others ONLY, 'I' ACTUALLY CAN, and DO eventually, back up and support what I SAY, and CLAIM,

Unlike you I just LOVE BEING QUESTIONED AND CHALLENGED, and SO SEEK OUT and ASK FOR IT.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm I hope that makes sense to this point, that perhaps you have an improved understanding of my POV.
ACTUALLY you are just FURTHER SUPPORTING "belinda's" PREVIOUS CONCLUSIONS OF you.



It's at times like these that one considers, among other things, whether the cartoonists that draw little frustrated boys with steam blowing out of their ears quite literally witnessed a little distressed boy with steam blowing out of his ears.

PS. Champ, you are wrong. I know because GOD told me, even insisted when I said are you sure, that it's IRREFUTABLE! :P
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It doesn’t matter what humans say or how they choose to describe God.

God simply is without doubt or error just as you are typing your ideas into a computer,watching the text simultaneously appear on the screen in the exact moment it’s being typed, and also in the exact moment the thoughts are being materialised into text and then being read by the collective observer.

You see, what’s happening is God happening simultaneously all at one, in individuated little portions called singular thought bubbles, arising from out of the infinite foam that is God’s bathtub.

The mental stream of thoughts are Gods babies, like individuated tiny bubbles, like little unique universes within Gods infinite universe.
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Attofishpi wrote:
My point being, and as you may have noticed, I use the term KEY words. These words imo have been manipulated through the minds of men unbeknownst to them by this underlying intelligence (GOD) into their current form.
This is the main cause of our disagreement. Simply, I don't believe in that sort of God. I.e. the sort of God who intervenes in history.

If you like you may put your theory to the test; suggest any English word and I guarantee I will be able to invent how the word holds an arcane meaning.
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attofishpi wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:06 am
Age wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:47 am
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm

I regard you very highly actually Belinda, particularly by way of knowledge, especially in philosophical areas. (* tho I understand why you'd think other_wise). Sometimes I feel you could mmm, be more analytic.
Just because one does NOT 'end up' AGREEING WITH your OWN PERCEPTIONS NEVER means that 'that one' is NOT being what you call, here, 'more analytic'.

After all some are FAR MORE ANALYTIC THAN 'you', but BECAUSE of your LESS ANALYTICAL ABILITY you are NOT YET ABLE TO SEE, and UNDERSTAND.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm Sometimes I see what I feel are those 'non sequiturs' and it surprises me to be honest because you are clearly very intelligent.
I know I can be very bloody beligerent though and condescending so I apoiogise for my thuggish behaviour, alas I am a product of my environment!
Here is ANOTHER PRIME example of one PRETENDING TO 'apologize', but who 'ends up' QUICKLY BLAMING something ELSE for its OWN Wrong behaving.

you "attofishpi", an adult human being, are ABLE TO JUST STOP your 'bloody belligerent', 'condescending', AND 'thuggish' behavior. And, 'TRYING TO' BLAME that you can NOT HELP 'that behavior' because of some SO BLAMED 'environment' SHOWS and PROVES just 'IMMATURE' and 'IRRESPONSIBLE' you REALLY ARE.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm

But that's not it at all. The evidence embedded throughout certain things within our shared REAL_IT_Y is there for a reason beyond me personally.
Do you REALLY BELIEVE "attofishpi" that when you WRITE the words 'real_it_y' that ANY one SEES what you DO?

ONCE AGAIN, God is NOT some 'artificial intelligence' NOR 'information technology'. So, ASKING WHY is 'it' real? is just what FALLS UNDER the banner of 'INSANITY'.

your OWN IMAGININGS that 'God', Itself, SAYS TO the one known as "attofishpi", ' you are a "good christian" ', is what would have got you LOCKED UP, not to long ago before your writing days, here.

And, the VERY REASON WHY you WOULD HAVE GOT LOCKED UP IS BECAUSE it is ABSOLUTELY INSANITY TO IMAGINE, let alone BELIEVE, that God would put ANY one ABOVE another one.

Also, and BLATANTLY OBVIOUS IS the Fact that a so-called "good christian adult" would NOT BE;

1. Very bloody belligerent.

2. Condescending.

3. Have and USE thuggish behavior. NOR EVER,

4. PRETEND TO apologize for ANY thing, but then BLAME being a product of their environment, for what they DO.

What you are ACTUALLY DOING, here, "attofishpi" is BEING the EXACT OPPOSITE OF A "christian". So, CLAIMING that God, Itself, PICKED you OUT, PULLED you ASIDE, and TOLD you that you are a "good christian" EXISTED IN your IMAGININGS ONLY.

Now, you OBVIOUSLY LIKE TO PICK A "side", and DEBATE, SO GO AHEAD and TRY, here. Let the readers, here, SEE WHAT the ACTUAL OUTCOME WILL BE, EXACTLY.

However, you WILL NOT ACCEPT CHALLENGES FROM 'me' BECAUSE 'DEEP DOWN', AT God's LEVEL, you KNOW you can NOT COUNTER NOR REFUTE what I SAY and CLAIM, here.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm OK. So thus far you are not seeing anything as evidence of this intelligence that I have concluded operates from below the Planck scale, fine.
What 'this one', STILL, has NOT YET WORKED OUT and UNDERSTOOD, that God OPERATING at below some Truly INSIGNIFICANT scale ALSO MEANS that God ACTUALLY OPERATES AT EACH and EVERY so-called SCALE, from the LARGEST TO the SMALLEST.

So, CONTINUALLY CLAIMING that God OPERATES AT 'one scale' ONLY SHOWS and PROVES just HOW MUCH MORE this one REALLY DOES HAVE TO LEARN, COMPREHEND, and UNDERSTAND, here.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm Understand that my gnosis of GOD since 1997 came about from direct personal interactions with this entity, NOT from this shared information within our reality that I am attempting to present to you and others here.
'This one' AGAIN SPEAKS as though God, Itself, has DIRECT PERSONAL INTERACTIONS WITH 'this one' MORE DEEPLY or MORE OFTEN than WITH 'other' human beings.

Which, AGAIN, is JUST ABSOLUTELY ABSURD and ILLOGICAL.

Also, just SAYING and CLAIMING that you have HAD 'direct personal interactions' WITH God WILL NEVER EVER SUFFICE AS ACTUAL PROOF FOR God.

So, EITHER INFORM the readers, here, of what, EXACTLY, TOOK PLACE, which WILL PROVE God's EXISTENCE, Once and for ALL, or just STOP 'TRYING TO' come across as though 'the one' known as "attofishpi", here, is some sort of 'CHOSEN one'.

'I' am SORRY to break 'this' TO 'you' "attofishpi", but 'you' are CERTAINLY NOT some sort of so-called "good christian", 'you' are CERTAINLY NOT ANY sort of 'chosen one', and 'you' are CERTAINLY NOT ACHIEVING what you WANT TO, here.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm It was after gnosis that I started ANALYSING ALL REALITY...
Come on "attofishpi", the ONLY 'one' you are FOOLING and DECEIVING, here, IS "your" OWN 'self'.

you did NOT start 'analyzing' 'all reality' AT ALL. you just 'ended up' SEEING WITHIN 'things' a TINY BIT MORE than most others 'end up' doing.

But, WITH ALL people who WENT THROUGH what you did, who 'end up' SEEING what you have MOST people just call 'it' 'COINCIDENCE'. But, what you WILL ADAMANTLY CLAIM IS 'EVIDENCE'.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm for evidence of this GOD entity that I could share with others.
LOOKING FOR 'evidence' FOR what you have ALREADY CONCLUDED and BELIEVED IS TRUE, IS BACKWARDS, and WHY you adult human beings, when this is being written, are, STILL, SO, SO FAR BEHIND.

What you DID and KEEP DOING, here, IS 'confirmation bias'. Full stop.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm GOD started me off by talking to me with broken words and I started to think, and analyse some of the examples of these words - and BAM! The picture started to form, the evidence that I could reasonably present as a case for others to consider.
'I' WILL TELL 'you' this ONCE MORE "attofishpi". What you are 'starting to see' is at the level of, let 'us' say, the 'conception' of a newly created human being. you, STILL, have the whole pregnancy, birth, infancy', childhood, teenager years, and a whole lifetime of adulthood BEFORE you will even come CLOSE TO SHOWING and PROVING what you ARE WANTING TO, here. AGAIN, 'the SIGNS' that you ARE SEEING BEHIND, and WITHING, 'the words' (of God), you can just MAKE AT a TINY SNIPPET OF. But, you have SUCH A LONG WAY MORE, TO GO.

Also, 'you' ARE DEALING WITH 'human beings' who ARE JUST LIKE 'you', in that they ALSO HAVE 'their BELIEFS' that they do NOT WANT TO GET RID OF, NOR LET GO OF. So, from the VERY OUTSET you ARE STUCK. Which is WHY you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, are TAKING SO, SO LONG TO MOVE FORWARD, and PROGRESS.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm Also, using 'He' for this entity I don't, I may use it for Christ, but not GOD - the system running the backbone to the construct of our reality. It's my opinion that Christ formed from the GOD system.
Are you REALLY SOME KIND OF ABSOLUTELY IMBECILE?

If it IS 'your opinion' that the so-called 'system running the backbone to construct your reality', which you also name the 'God system', formed the one human being with the name and label "jesus christ", then ABSOLUTELY EVERY one/thing ELSE was FORMED FROM and BY the EXACT SAME 'system'.

Why do you mention, here, the words "jesus christ" as though 'it' was, or has some sort of, more importance than absolutely EVERY other human beings, and thing?
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm

Yes, I agree. I have absolutely no argument with that, in fact I was watching a documentary just the other day that was very interesting. Although from where you mention above that our current language developed, as one of the Germanic languages, we actually use MORE words descended from French & Latin. It's the nuts and bolts words such as 'come' 'and' 'because' 'the', that makes up the important German structure.

My point being, and as you may have noticed, I use the term KEY words. These words imo have been manipulated through the minds of men unbeknownst to them by this underlying intelligence (GOD) into their current form.
HOW MANY TIMES DO human beings HAVE TO TOLD and INFORMED that they DO NOT HAVE 'minds', BEFORE JUST one of them STOPS TO JUST CONSIDER and THINK ABOUT 'this'?

LOL ABSOLUTELY ANY one could ASK "attofishpi", 'What are these so-called 'minds' 'of men', EXACTLY?' And, "attofishpi" would NOT and could NOT even BEGIN TO DEFINE, DESCRIBE, and EXPLAIN what 'they' ARE, EXACTLY?

YET, BECAUSE "attofishpi" is SO EASILY and SO SIMPLY LED and CONVINCED OF 'things', it WILL KEEP SAYING and CLAIMING that there ARE MANY 'minds', of which 'men' or human beings HAVE and/or OWN.

There were SO MANY adult human beings, in the days when this was being written, WHO, UNBEKNOWNST TO them, just ACCEPTED and BELIEVED 'whatever' they WERE TOLD, in their childhoods. WITHOUT EVER ONCE JUST QUESTIONING NOR CONSIDERING 'them'.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm
Why? To provide the evidence here, now that we can comprehend such things since we have technology, in particular machines which are proving what is capable with A.I. --- hence I find Mount SIN_AI particulary interesting in historical context.
Talk ABOUT A DISPLAY OF 'waffling nonsense'.

Now, HOW, EXACTLY, is 'evidence' even A WORTHY 'thing', COMPARED TO 'proof', EXACTLY?

you CLAIMED you COMPREHENDED 'the evidence' BEFORE 'artificial intelligence' even came along, so what is 'technology', itself, going to SHOW or PROVE.

Surely you are NOT SUGGESTING that some 'artificial intelligent' machine is GOING TO RECOGNIZE and SEE the words 'mount sinnai' IN 'the way' that "attofishpi" ONLY 'saw'?

How DOES your USE of the 'hence' word, here, ACTUALLY FIT IN and WORK, EXACTLY?

you, SUPPOSEDLY,

First, SPOKE WITH God.

THEN, you ANALYZED 'all reality' to FIND what can be SHOWN AS 'evidence', FOR God.

you CLAIM some words ARE so-called KEY words. Which HAVE been manipulating 'men', ONLY, but unbeknownst to them. (So, I am NOT SURE HOW the 'manipulating' is working, EXACTLY).

WHY 'this' is, is to provide 'evidence'. If God wanted to provide 'evidence', then why did It not just provide 'proof', INSTEAD? If It did, then there would NOT have been ANY CONFUSION, ANY MISUNDERSTANDING, thus NOR ANY CONFLICTS, WAR, and KILLINGS.

Anyway, you CLAIM 'now' you CAN 'comprehend' 'the so-called evidence' because you 'now' have technology. Were you UNAWARE that you human beings have had so-called 'technology' for A WHILE, hitherto when this is being written?

you then CLAIM that you 'now' have so-called 'particular machines', which are 'proving' that words like 'mount sinnai' MEAN what "attofishpi" SEES them TO MEAN.

you ALSO CLAIM 'artificial intelligence' HELPS IN 'this'.

you THEN SAID and WROTE,

hence I find Mount SIN_AI particulary interesting in historical context.

Which in NO WAY LOGICALLY FOLLOWS ON FROM the PROCEEDING CLAIMS.

What you are SAYING and WRITING, here, is JUST ILLOGICAL 'waffling nonsense'. As I, once again, just POINTED OUT, SHOWED, PROVED, and thus REVEALED, here.

See, unlike you "attofishpi" who just MAKES CLAIMS and ACCUSATIONS ABOUT others ONLY, 'I' ACTUALLY CAN, and DO eventually, back up and support what I SAY, and CLAIM,

Unlike you I just LOVE BEING QUESTIONED AND CHALLENGED, and SO SEEK OUT and ASK FOR IT.
attofishpi wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:27 pm I hope that makes sense to this point, that perhaps you have an improved understanding of my POV.
ACTUALLY you are just FURTHER SUPPORTING "belinda's" PREVIOUS CONCLUSIONS OF you.



It's at times like these that one considers, among other things, whether the cartoonists that draw little frustrated boys with steam blowing out of their ears quite literally witnessed a little distressed boy with steam blowing out of his ears.
ONCE AGAIN, there is NOT A thing that 'this one' can COUNTER nor REFUTE, in what I SAID and CLAIMED. And, NOT A thing that 'this one' can EXPAND ON, CLARIFY, nor ELABORATE, in what it SAID and CLAIMED.

Can 'this one' back up and support ANY thing that it has SAID and CLAIMED, here?
attofishpi wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:06 am PS. Champ, you are wrong.
LOL
LOL
LOL

'you are wrong', is ALL 'this one' HAS GOT, here.

LOL 'you' REALLY DO make 'me' LAUGH, here, some times "attofishpi".
attofishpi wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:06 am I know because GOD told me, even insisted when I said are you sure, that it's IRREFUTABLE! :P
LOL
LOL
LOL

1. What you are even REFERRING TO NO one KNOWS.

2. you are ONLY PROVING HOW your OWN IMAGINATIONS LED you COMPLETELY ASTRAY.

LOL you are just like "immanuel can", here.

you BOTH KNOW God exists, because, LOL, God TOLD you two so.

And, even FURTHER INSANITY, God, LOL, INSISTED.

LOL
LOL
LOL

you two are BEING ABSOLUTE JOKES, here.
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Fairy wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:05 am It doesn’t matter what humans say or how they choose to describe God.
It may well not, REALLY, matter. However, you human beings will NOT STOP UNTIL you OBTAIN the ACTUAL IRREFUTABLE Truth.

Which, ONCE AGAIN, 'I' HAVE, that is; IF absolutely ANY one has ANY CURIOSITY and ANY INTEREST, LEFT.
Fairy wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:05 am God simply is without doubt or error just as you are typing your ideas into a computer,watching the text simultaneously appear on the screen in the exact moment it’s being typed, and also in the exact moment the thoughts are being materialised into text and then being read by the collective observer.
BUT, even 'you', "fairy", KEEP ON SEARCHING FOR the ACTUAL IRREFUTABLE Truth.

See, adult human beings MUCH PREFER Facts, INSTEAD OF guesses, theories, assumptions, models, and/or hypothesizes.
Fairy wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:05 am You see, what’s happening is God happening simultaneously all at one, in individuated little portions called singular thought bubbles, arising from out of the infinite foam that is God’s bathtub.
While 'I'/God SIT, HERE, WAITING, PATIENTLY, FOR 'those' WITH CURIOSITY, and INTEREST.
Fairy wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 8:05 am The mental stream of thoughts are Gods babies, like individuated tiny bubbles, like little unique universes within Gods infinite universe.
ONCE AGAIN, there is 'thinking', and then there is 'knowing'. ONLY you human beings 'think'. Whereas, 'I'/God KNOW, and IRREFUTABLY SO.
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Fairy wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:17 am Maybe we’ve all got 1 or two singular pieces of the entire reality puzzle 🧩 and we’re just trying to connect all our pieces together to form the whole picture.

No one individual can know the entire picture. And to be fair I don’t think the entire picture will ever reveal itself because it’s infinite in scope.

Most people have died before they’ve even gotten anywhere near solving the TOE including the mystery that is consciousness.


Something magical and intelligent is happening, we could call it GOD. After all that’s why we are philosophising, that’s why we are introspecting. We are curious creatures, it’s like it’s our duty to discover ourselves and the universe.

Human beings didn’t make it all happen, they are part of the happening. So we might as well just say something is making it all happen, and we just might as well call this something GOD.

WHY NOT.
That's what everyone means by 'God'. Except that God believers also believe what God makes to happen also makes sense as a system.

Unbelievers are concerned to point out that the system does not make total sense. This is mainly due to the Problem of Evil. The Problem of Evil is that a system which is benevolent could not be evil, and if the system is also all -powerful it could prevent evil.
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God is aliveness.

Aliveness cannot unalive aliveness. That’s why God must be everything including the starting block off which God got off of.

Badness cannot be gotten rid of no more than goodness can be gotten rid of.

There’s no way out of this twisted loop, because it’s infinite.
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Fairy wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:48 pm God is aliveness.

Aliveness cannot unalive aliveness. That’s why God must be everything including the starting block off which God got off of.

Badness cannot be gotten rid of no more than goodness can be gotten rid of.

There’s no way out of this twisted loop, because it’s infinite.

The biosphere is at risk of becoming unalive.

Badness is got rid of when we do good, have good intentions, and speak truth. Goodness depends on consciousness of how we define 'good'.

The twisted loop as you call it is the background to our quest to live a good life. It's the nature of the quest that gets things done not the way out of the loop.
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Belinda wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:09 pm
Fairy wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:48 pm God is aliveness.

Aliveness cannot unalive aliveness. That’s why God must be everything including the starting block off which God got off of.

Badness cannot be gotten rid of no more than goodness can be gotten rid of.

There’s no way out of this twisted loop, because it’s infinite.

The biosphere is at risk of becoming unalive.

Badness is got rid of when we do good, have good intentions, and speak truth. Goodness depends on consciousness of how we define 'good'.

The twisted loop as you call it is the background to our quest to live a good life. It's the nature of the quest that gets things done not the way out of the loop.
I prefer my own version of God.
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Fairy wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:20 pm
Belinda wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:09 pm
Fairy wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:48 pm God is aliveness.

Aliveness cannot unalive aliveness. That’s why God must be everything including the starting block off which God got off of.

Badness cannot be gotten rid of no more than goodness can be gotten rid of.

There’s no way out of this twisted loop, because it’s infinite.

The biosphere is at risk of becoming unalive.

Badness is got rid of when we do good, have good intentions, and speak truth. Goodness depends on consciousness of how we define 'good'.

The twisted loop as you call it is the background to our quest to live a good life. It's the nature of the quest that gets things done not the way out of the loop.

I prefer my own version of God.

of course you do. However we are supposed to be philosophers here and philosophers love wisdom not poor reasoning.
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Belinda wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:26 pm
Fairy wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:20 pm
Belinda wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 1:09 pm

The biosphere is at risk of becoming unalive.

Badness is got rid of when we do good, have good intentions, and speak truth. Goodness depends on consciousness of how we define 'good'.

The twisted loop as you call it is the background to our quest to live a good life. It's the nature of the quest that gets things done not the way out of the loop.

I prefer my own version of God.

of course you do. However we are supposed to be philosophers here and philosophers love wisdom not poor reasoning.
Of course yes I do. Your powers of observation are remarkably astounding.
I’m a philosopher and lover of wisdom too. I reason just like you, like everyone with a brain, who has the reasoning capability to think for themselves.

I’m showing my personal version of God according to my personal direct experience, according to how I personally perceive what God means to me, and what I have discovered God to be. Here, I simply put my perception into a narrative, that’s not to say my narrative is an absolute concrete fact. I’m not claiming that.
No one here at this forum has access to the original source codes, that belong purely to God only. Only God has original authority over the knowledge that is God… am I God, do I have special monopoly of God, hell no, ffs.

Take it or leave it, there’s no obligation, it’s not like I’m forcing my philosophy down your throat.

You are a very rude woman. I’m not talking to you ever again, condescending comments like yours, are just not worth my time or energy. You can quote me as you like, if it suits you to do so, but I will never respond to you again.
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Tongue-in-cheek it is then!

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Belinda wrote: Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:28 pm
Fairy wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:17 am Maybe we’ve all got 1 or two singular pieces of the entire reality puzzle 🧩 and we’re just trying to connect all our pieces together to form the whole picture.

No one individual can know the entire picture. And to be fair I don’t think the entire picture will ever reveal itself because it’s infinite in scope.

Most people have died before they’ve even gotten anywhere near solving the TOE including the mystery that is consciousness.


Something magical and intelligent is happening, we could call it GOD. After all that’s why we are philosophising, that’s why we are introspecting. We are curious creatures, it’s like it’s our duty to discover ourselves and the universe.

Human beings didn’t make it all happen, they are part of the happening. So we might as well just say something is making it all happen, and we just might as well call this something GOD.

WHY NOT.
That's what everyone means by 'God'. Except that God believers also believe what God makes to happen also makes sense as a system.



Unbelievers are concerned to point out that the system does not make total sense. This is mainly due to the Problem of Evil. The Problem of Evil is that a system which is benevolent could not be evil, and if the system is also all -powerful it could prevent evil.
1. When the word 'problem' is defined, in a way that FITS, of course, then it is quickly SEEN that there is NO ACTUAL so-called 'problem of evil'.

2. When the word 'evil' is defined, again in a way that FITS, then 'the actual issue' being raised above, here, can be addressed, and will be not just addressed but also resolved, literally, ONCE and FOR ALL.

3. 'The system' is NOT 'evil'. However, some things within 'the system' do the things, which are referred to as 'evil'.

4 'The system' does not 'physically step in' and STOP 'the evil' because 'the system' ALLOWED the ONLY things that do 'evil', that is; adult human beings, to CHOOSE TO DO whatever 'they' like KNOWING that human beings learn BEST BY 'their MISTAKES'.
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