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Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 2:57 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:52 am

Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:20 am
If one was to assume that you are correct here in your interpretation "iwannaplato", why post it here?

I was desribing a specific situation, with a specific kind of communication he was engaging in and saying what I thought the limitations were and contrasting his claimed/implied intent with that.

Okay.

But, once once, my actual clarifying question, to this one, remains not yet clarified, again.

Obviously I wanted him to read and think about what I described writing above. I think you have enough trouble understanding what is written in reponse to your posts. You seem even more clueless when you ask about or comment on communication aimed at other people who have more complete communication tool boxes.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 2:59 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:52 am

Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:20 am But some like "accelafine" might say that it is not the 'insanity' that needs to be questioned here.

Obviously.

Yet you, still, wrote what you did, 'the way' that you did, here.

Perhaps you are writing this to yourself, here. Surely, you must know that I know that I wrote what I wrote. There's no need to remind me.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:03 am

Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:54 am

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 6:54 am Slag, you do know what that word means, right?

Once again, what 'we' have here is another example of these people, back then, believing that their own personal definition for a word is the 'right one'.

They seemed to continually forget that just about every word can have varying numbers of 'different definitions', while none ever being 'the Right one'. They also did not seem to realize that some words even have completely opposing definitions, which explains, partly, why there was so much conflict, bickering, and confusion 'among them'.

Now, what does the word 'slag' mean, to you "iwannaplato", exactly?

Notice that you start by just assuming you understand what I said to him.

LOL
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you 'presume' I did some thing, and then go straight into 'believing' that 'your presumption' is true, right, accurate, and correct.

And, your attempt to try to deflect away from the 'very point' I made did not go unnoticed. Although you may well have completely missed the 'very point' I made here, once more.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:03 am You didn't ask me for clarification.

I did not need to.

I only addressed the very thing that you actually did and what was blatantly obvious.

Any other presumption you made here has absolutely nothing at all to do with what I actually said, and meant, here.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:03 am You believed you knew it was an example of what you said it was an example of.

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you are going beyond an absolute joke 'here now' "iwannaplato".

Obviously you tried to make out that there is only one definition for the word above here, and that you 'knew' 'that definition' while another did not.

And, any attempt of yours here to try to deflect away from this, which is, exactly, what you are trying to do here, now, is just another form of deception, and thus you trying to deceive the readers here, again.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:03 am Hypocrite.

Considering that I never even did what you are trying your hardest to claim I was, this is very, very amusing.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:03 am Infinite regress maker.

Again, this one has managed to deflect, and take "itself" so far off track, that one might wonder if it could ever find its own 'way back'.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:04 pm If you say so, but does anything else happen in this, obviously, hypothetical situation, of yours here?

Nothing else of importance.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:59 am Yup, that's an exaggeration as a mirror. I doubt you can learn from it, but perhaps someone else will get the sad joke of your priorities.

Obviously, once again, you failed completely in understanding what I was actually saying, and meaning.

I wasn't focused on what you meant. I was pointing out the cluelessness/lack of empathy in the priorities you have.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:59 am A perfect example of
Weak Central Coherence is a cognitive style characterized by a focus on local or detailed information at the expense of global or overall context. This means that individuals with weak central coherence tend to concentrate more on specific parts of a situation or object rather than understanding it as a whole.

Yet here you are far more so criticizing for me for speaking generally about all, with and of a global or overall context instead.

Nope. I expected you wouldn't get it.

It is like no matter what I say and write here, you are just intend on only 'seeing' what to ridicule and/or criticize only. No matter how skewed or distorted your interpretation really is.

Ah, now you are starting to notice the face in the mirror, though still only at the level of traits. You see the traits but haven't recognized the face.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:23 am

Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:11 am So what?

Does this make 'you' somehow 'better' than "attofishpi", or somehow 'more' than "attosfishpi", or somehow 'different' than "attofishpi"?

If it is the latter, then how, exactly?

And, I am almost absolutely certain that "attofishpi" does not feel the urge to do some of things that you do "iwannaplato"?

Now, obviously, you have not had the lived experiences that "attofishpi" has had. So, that you, supposedly, never feel the urge to call "accelafine" a slag or a slut, like "attofishpi" is solely because of your different 'lived experiences'.

Also, why do you not have the urge to call some one some thing that they, "themselves", might call "them" 'self'?

So, as usual, nothing of substance to say about the post that was not directed at you.

accelafine wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 7:09 am Because women are sexual, so men need to get over, at root, hating women for it, just as any deity who hates women needs to also.

LOL Why would you assume or believe that a so-called 'deity' would hate women.

yet, again showing the limitations of your communication.

That would be a contradiction of terms.

Exactly.

accelafine wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 7:09 am I've seen this shit aimed at women in my life and the damage it does, the damage it can do even when unexpressed but palpable and I'm tired of it.

But, you are, obviously, not tired of the other attempts at insults, which you express, right?

You seem to lack the understanding of the difference between reacting to what a person is doing and someone hating a woman for being a woman.

I know you're upset that I've insulted you, but this kind of sophistry in comparison is just silly on your part.

Once again, your presumption here is, absolutely, False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect.

LOL you have not even done what you absolutely believe you have.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:23 am And it's really cool to see what you think the priority problem to focus on in this discussion was.

Firstly, it did not take you long at all.

Secondly, it is amazing that you, continually, keep 'only seeing' what you believe exists. Even though it is obvious and provable that is is not even there.

Thirdly, you have, again, missed what is here. Which is not surprising at all considering just how much, and how often, you Truly do miss, and/or misunderstand, what is, actually, here.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:16 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:03 am You didn't ask me for clarification.

I did not need to.

I only addressed the very thing that you actually did and what was blatantly obvious.

So, when you do this, assume what was blatently obvious, it is fine. When others do this, it is not fine, they should have have asked for clarification.

Are you aware of the contents of the hundreds of other posts I have read of attofishpi's? No. Is it possible that my knowledge of what he was conveying and the attitudes he has came from information you were unaware I had? Yup.

Yet, you assumed things about me, and simply stated them.

When other people, in your estimation, make assumptions instead of asking clarifying questions first, you judge them and describe what they did as you did in relation to me.

When you do it, it is because you believe it is all blatently obvious.

Hypocrite again.

But you simply cannot admit this kind of thing because it cuts into your false sense of self, your overweening ego. It would call into question too much. And so one can expect more LOLs and 'this one has completely..... etc.

That you're just another human being doing the very things you have come to teach us about...you can't face that.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:26 pm Firstly, it did not take you long at all.

Secondly, it is amazing that you, continually, keep 'only seeing' what you believe exists. Even though it is obvious and provable that is is not even there.

Thirdly, you have, again, missed what is here. Which is not surprising at all considering just how much, and how often, you Truly do miss, and/or misunderstand, what is, actually, here.

The usual posturing and lack of substance. That's what you bring to threads.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:40 am

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:59 amSlag, you do know what that word means, right?

For the record I didn't realise slag is the same as slut. I'd never call anyone a slut..

Why not?

It can carry with it no more negative nor positive connotation than the 'lady' word does.

you people, back when this was being written, appear to really have not yet even come close to fully understanding 'definitions', themselves.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:40 am The context I use for slag, is someone that needs to chip off the slag - as in a requirement to chip off the crap that is making them less than they should be. In accefalines case - constantly calling me a fat ugly stupid schizophrenic lends me to suggest she needs to do some chipping off of her bad bits..that is all.

Thank you for clarifying here.

But, "iwannaplato" is not interested in this clarification here. "iwannaplato" believes that you do not know what the word 'slag', actually, means.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:52 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:41 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 12:58 am

OF course I did. I was in the hell - of reckoning that God had inflicted on every synapse within my brain\mind - a horrible place to be for once again crossing the line set by the sage - and eating from the Tree of Know_LEDGE.

So ol' atto had that idea infested into said mind, looked in the kitchen cupboard, found the first nail (galvanised!) and a claw hammer - lined up the nail so it wouldn't hit bone. On my right foot in almost an identical position to my left foot which has a large mole\freckle - always intrigued me as a Christian- anyway- WACK!! into the floorboards.

Didn't hurt, took the nail out with the claw side of the hammer - and NOT ONE DROP OF BLOOD ----ever. Appeared to heal immediately.

That was pretty much the end of THAT day of Reckoning - and the LAST I intend to ever have.

OK? Satisfied?

In a state of uncontrolled schizophrenic delerium you either hallucinated an act of egregious self harm or else you actually committed one. By the time you emerged from the state, you could no longer tell the difference.

You hear the voice of God ordering you to commit violence and then you do it. It goes without saying that you must never be allowed on any flight ever again.

God has NEVER ordered me to do anything.

Did God order you to 'do art'?

If no, then what, actually, happened?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:52 am You (and all atheists) are continually making assumptions, as if you know me better than I know myself - and God for that matter.

Do you, and all so-called, continually making assumptions also?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:52 am If right now I heard a voice from the aether to do anything - pop a nail through my foot - go out and chop the head off of someone etc etc..I'd say "FUCK OFF C~NT".

So, if "attofishpi", supposedly, 'heard a voice from the aether', to go and help the less fortunate, for example, then "attofishpi" would say, 'FUCK OFF C-U-N-T".

And, why this one, who believes, absolutely, in God would do this, one would hope "attofishpi" will explain why.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:09 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:58 am Distinction without difference is no use here. You are prone to hallucinations resulting in violence and that is all that needs to be known about you.

Clearly all you are driving for is to vex me.

The only time God forces me into such a state is when I "eat" from the Tree of Know_LEDGE ---two weeks of peace then "you've crossed the line" is stated ---> the line that God\sages have set for me.

Why do 'you' get two weeks of peace when you so-call 'cross the line', but every other human being gets no time of peace when they 'cross the line'?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:09 am I am in ABSOLUTE peace now, borderline HEAVEN.

Why are you responding 'angrily' and 'the way' you are if you are, supposedly, in ABSOLUTE peace now, borderline HEAVEN?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:09 am I have discarded contact with those that continue to smoke the 'innocent' weed - like I stated to Age, I can smoke the stuff for medicinal reasons - headaches if needed and get stoned - two weeks later - nothing - still normal atto - HOWEVER, if I smoke weed for pleasure - then I am returned to HELL after the two weeks of peace and a comment is usually stated "you crossed the line" -comprehende?

But, you just 'stating' the above to me, or to absolutely any one, does not mean that there is ABSOLUTELY any truth to it, at all.

In fact, if one has be 'certified' "schizophrenic", then what they 'state' has far more chances of be UNTRUE than what is 'stated' by an not yet 'certified' "schizophrenic".

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:09 am It used to be 3 month stints in HELL - I'd learn a lot about the capabilites of God during such a period - NOW - I know all I need and NOW it's 6 months of HELL - the last time resulting me punching a nail through my foot - and fate worse than death - chaos is horrible.

Nope - I am happy as larry now - two years since I was a FOOL ---> turns out I am on the path to SAGE.

Could this be, to you, another example of the 'dunning-kruger effect'?

Or, would it be an impossibility that you have this effect here?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:09 am Ergo, fuck U and any atheist that is more concerned with vexatious insults.

It is this kind of response that reveals that one is not, really, in ABSOLUTE peace, nor borderline HEAVEN, at all.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:22 am ...pfff. ..and just the other day sage\God whilst I was walking my dog told me "You're a good Christian"

What, exactly, is the difference between a so-called "good christian" and a so-called "bad christian"?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:22 am Truly, it breaks my heart that you people consider me as such.

(oh I see accelafine just removed her post - second thoughts I guess)

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:51 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:39 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:20 am

You have absolutely no idea about me. I wouldn't harm a fly (ok that's a lie)

Clearly - U R A MORON.

Would you drive a nail through your foot? Yes.

Correct.

FlashDangerpants wrote:Before you had driven a nail through your foot would you have answered that question with a yes? No.

Correct.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:39 am You've issued so many threats to muslims on this site that it seems pretty clear you are working your way up to stabbing one.

Totally incorrect. I have never threatened any Muslim. I am concerned with their ideology that we must all convert or be killed - YES.

What is the, actual, difference when so-called "christians" go into other countries with their ideology that we must convert them, to our ways, or kill them from when others, supposedly, do this?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:51 am I have stated - since I know how God permeates all matter - including brain matter - that I would merely whisper to a Muslim something pro_found about God - have the individual (God willing) inflict upon their mind the reckoning that I know God is capable of inflicting - such that they must pass the message on within a timeframe to others of such an evil ideology - such that they comprehend that the only "OUT" they have, is to convert their faith to Christ.

So, essentially, you just want to do, exactly, what you criticize others of wanting to do.

That is; you God believers all want to convert others, through and with God, to your own upbringing religion/ideologies.

One could imagine how 'serious' "attofishpi" would be in 'converting' 'others' if it was brought up in and followed the 'islamic' religion and ideology.

What all of you seem to be completely and utterly missing here is that God, Itself, is laughing, continually, at all of you 'believers', and 'disbelievers'.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:51 am PERIOD - of course, a short of sight atheist will never comprehend this - and the power of God.

NO stabbing on my part - although I certainly could be on the receiving end - since as we all know, they love to stab and machete.

Who and what are 'they' here, exactly?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:51 am PS. God\sage indicated to me about 15 mins ago not to bother with U lot. I was planning on an early night.

Once again, and very 'coincidentally', this God, and these sages, 'indicated', exactly, what "attofishpi" wanted and desired anyway, also.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:51 am Honestly - I am the most loving bloke you can come across.

Just as long as you are not a "muslim", and follow and abide by "british" values, and customs.

Otherwise, you are 'evil', need to be converted, and/or should not be living with those who are classed as "british".

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:51 am I look after a disabled man around the corner as well as help out with other elderly neighbours as needed

But, 'your uncle' had to come to take care of 'your dad', right?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:51 am - I have NO ill intentions to anyone - so when you insist I am some 'unstable psycho' - well, I do get rather disheartened.

Again, some times 'the truth' hurts.

accelafine wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:53 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:17 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:09 am

Clearly all you are driving for is to vex me.

It is just the case that you are very mad, and also that sooner or later you will harm somebody other than yourself unless you seek urgent medical help before you have be locked up.

They don't lock them up these days. In fact in your part of the world they are more interested in locking up people who say things like 'men aren't women' online. Men who rape children and stab people are kept out of the prisons to make room for 'wrong thinkers'.

Are "women" who rape children and stab 'people' also kept out of the prisons to make room for so-called 'wrong thinkers' as well?

Or, does this only apply for "men"?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:54 am

Atla wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:37 am GOD does exist in the sense that it's another personality (fragment) in your head. In a sense it's another part of you. Deep down you do desire this GOD, that's why you haven't destroyed it yet. Destroy it and find some better company ffs.

You have NO idea. The wrath of God had its reasons - as I have stated - I am borderline in HEAVEN (mode) - I intend to meet the sage(s) hopefully soon.

Why do some 'hope', but 'wait'?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:55 am Vowels of the Sage

If the 'A' here was for 'Actual', then would 'your theory' that God is, or was, an 'artificial intelligence' be, or been, different?

Also, and by the way, this would make far, far, far more sense.