attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:28 am
Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:02 am
attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am
My Uncle 11 years my senior has been over from England, looking after my Dad who lives an hour south of me. (my deceased mothers brother)
He is hilarious (like me

) and we have a lot of laughs together. He is a plumber - kinda retired.
Anyway, he's pretty good at spotting what things are - like I found a packed full of weird things in my glovebox and straight away he said its fittings for windsceen wipers.
Now, I can tell anything to my uncle - and he's an atheist but is very open to ideas - just wants da evidence for himself to witness.
Are not the words 'an "atheist" but is very open to ideas', when in relation to God existing, just a contradiction in terms, to you?
Maybe a so-called "atheist" might well be very open to ideas about electrical work, for example, but surely an "atheist" would not be open at all to an idea about God existing, right?
Some arn't but all atheists are agnostic within their belief that God does not exist,
you appear, once more, here to be defining words differently than I do.
How, exactly, do you define the 'atheist', 'agnostic', and 'theist' words here?
attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:32 am
they can never be certain that God does not exist.
What is the purpose of 'belief' if one can never be 'certain'?
attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:32 am
Some, such as my uncle are open to the idea, but until he receives proof, evidence for himself, he will remain agnostic atheist.
Will you now define what a so-called 'agnostic atheist' means, to you, exactly?
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:28 am
Age wrote:attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am
So last year I was walking my dog and where I crossed a busy road there was a Trojan toolbox in the gutter - clearly had fallen off the back of a truck. I picked it up and placed it on the footpath in case the owner came back looking for it. I decided if it was still there when I returned from my walk I'd claim it
If you were walking in the other direction, when you picked it up, then would have you placed it on the sidewalk, in case the owner came back looking for it?
Irrelevant.
Was you finding a box of, supposed, 'metal things', which, supposedly, turned 'plastic', when no one was looking, 'relevant' to any thing in a philosophy forum?
Also, if you placing that box on the footpath, just 'in case' the owner came back looking for it, or would not have, is irrelevant, then why mention 'this part' here.
Some might call what you did here 'virtue signalling'. And, especially more so if it is, supposedly, 'irrelevant' if you will not inform 'us' if you would not have placed that box on the pathway if you were walking in the other direction, especially in the fact that you wanted to make sure 'we' knew that you left it there, for a time, 'just in case'.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:28 am
Age wrote:attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am
- it was so I took it home and inspected the contents. Inside were all these metal really weird shaped things and I had no idea what they were for - probably attachments for something. - ALL METAL.
So a couple of weeks ago I had mentioned the toolbox to my uncle and was interested to see if he would work out what the contents were for. When he came over I opened the box - well - God\sages had swithced ALL the contents to PLASTIC pieces!!
Who and/or what are God/sages, to you, exactly?
God is the system that we exist within - God is ALL that we perceive of reality.
So, if this is 'your current' view of what God is, exactly, then 'you' and 'I', absolutely, agree, here.
I was wondering how long it was going to take you.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:28 am
Age wrote:And, how could it/they do such a thing?
Perhaps the sages have some 'input' as to what God does with the matter of reality - such that God switched the contents.
First things first. Who and/or what are 'sages', to you, exactly?
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:28 am
Age wrote:Is it not at all possible, to you, that you could have been imagining things here?
No, I am not stupid and nor do I suffer from Alzeihmers.
But, just out of coincidence, it was only 'today', after about 25 - 30 years that i, quite unexpectedly, came to find/discover some 'thing', which might explain what i had not been able to explain for all of those years.
Also, the irony in what you said and claimed here is funny.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:28 am
Age wrote:attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am
Many nozzles that looked like they were for garden sprinkler systems - and I am laughing with my uncle saying "this is bollocks - this is not the original contents of the toolbox - the fittings were all metal!"
Thing is, I've been trying to convince my uncle of the God thang - even tried getting them (sages) to do some of the stuff to him like that were doing to me over the years, but alas he says nada has happened.
And, just maybe there are no such things as so-called 'sages', from the outset.
The sage introduced himself to me a few days after Nov 13th 2005.
Okay, so;
How did 'the sage' introduce "himself", to you, exactly?
Does the 13th of November of the year that you call 2005 have any bearing on any thing here, exactly?
If yes, then what is 'that', exactly?
What did 'the sage' look like, exactly?
What did 'the sage' say and/or do, exactly?
And, how do you know that 'the sage' is male gendered, exactly?
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:28 am
Since then, the sage has occasionally communicated to me, again via the aether via the God system.
What is 'the aether', exactly?
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:28 am
Age wrote:By the way, how do you even define the 'sage' word, exactly?
The night I asked "who are you, are you God" - since I kept being awoken by an energy surge throughout my entire body - the reply from the aether was "I am a sage" - when I considered looking up what that meant in my dictionary, since I only knew a sage to be a herb - I was then tapped heavily on my RIGHT knee - as in RIGHT do that.
My dictionary stated SAGE: An extremely wise person.
Okay, and thank you.
Now, why do you think or believe that an 'energy surge', itself, is an 'extremely wise person', and one that is male gendered, exactly?
By the way, you are getting 'much closer' HERE, then a lot of other people here are.
attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:28 am
Age wrote:attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:15 am
I also told him about a large blue plastic barrel in my tool shed that was filled with pellets - fertiliser or something, maybe used for the hydro weed the previous owners were growing. One day I was thinking what I was going to do with that v large tub and its contents - I went into the shed, and it (barrel) was completely empty!!
So, where was the so-called 'recent miracle' here, exactly?
The recent "miracle" was the change in material of the contents of the Trojan toolbox - I thought I had made that clear.
you have made it very clear that you believe that the contents of some toolbox had changed all by themselves, or by some thing, when you were not looking. But, this is certainly not proof of any so-called 'miracle' here. As there could be countless reasons, which explain what, actually, happened and occurred.
By the way, how are you defining the 'miracle' word here, exactly?