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Posted: **Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:07 pm**

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:01 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:53 pm

Thee, one and ONLY, 'I' KNOWS, for sure. The, many and lots of, 'you' only thinks, or assumes.

There is ONLY One Mind. So, reading It is EXTREMELY SIMPLE and EASY.

The 'you', however, can only obtain thee KNOWING, of and from thee Mind, through ABSOLUTE Honesty, which OBVIOUSLY does NOT involve the secrets NOR the deceit, which you are EXPOSING here now.
Yes I know all that...did you for one second believe I didn't?

I do NOT believe ANY thing.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:01 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:53 pmONCE AGAIN, 'you' will NOT just ANSWER the ACTUAL QUESTION posed.
Yes I did ..I have already answered the question imposed...did you not read it?

What do 'you' mean by 'imposed' here?

The words 'posed' and 'imposed' mean two very different things.

The word 'imposed' in relation to just asking a person a clarifying question, for clarity, does NOT work, logically nor sensibly.

Also, what was THE actual question posed, which you SUPPOSEDLY answered?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:01 pm I thought you just said reading the mind is all very simple and easy.

I REALLY wish 'you' would take far MORE CARE when reading what I ACTUALLY write.

If you did, then you would UNDERSTAND me far quicker, simpler, and easier.

Posted: **Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:11 pm**

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:58 pmIf you did WANT TO KNOW and SO asked CLARIFYING QUESTION/S, then I could provide you with the ACTUAL Truth.

Well thanks for letting me know, but I'd REALLY REALLY rather get my own ACTUAL TRUTH knowing ..if it's all the same to you.

Posted: **Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:12 pm**

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:14 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:42 pmWHY does the one known as "dontaskme" feel the NEED to, OBVIOUSLY, twist AND distort what "others" have ACTUALLY STATED and SAID?
For the same reason why the one known as ''Age'' ''Ken'' or whatever other stupid dumb name this no one comes up with.

When EXACTLY have I, allegedly, done this?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:14 pm You see the reason why the twisting and distorting happens here between the ''you'' and the ''I'' is because expression of the one ''I'' can arise in multiple different ways that's all.

But WHY? Especially considering It refers to One 'Thing', Only?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:14 pm But that expression happens to be sourced from the same place, so it's kind of like the same difference.

So, if the 'I' can REALLY only arise in One way ONLY, and REALLY from the One Source ONLY, then HOW could there be a same "difference"?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:14 pm I thought that would be obvious.

'you' thought 'what' would be obvious?

The 'you' are CONTRADICTING here?

Posted: **Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:15 pm**

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:07 pm The word 'imposed' in relation to just asking a person a clarifying question, for clarity, does NOT work, logically nor sensibly.

It does when the actual truth is known...but then you wouldn't know that would you and that is why you seek clarification from me.

But I'm not going to give you any, work it out for yourself lazy. You're a grown adult aren't you, you do not need to keep asking what things mean like a small child...or are you a child?

Posted: **Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:17 pm**

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:12 pm
So, if the 'I' can REALLY only arise in One way ONLY, and REALLY from the One Source ONLY, then HOW could there be a same "difference"?

I guess you didn't understand what I meant or said...no worries, you are not alone, I have the same problem as you, only my problem understanding you is different to yours.

Posted: **Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:18 pm**

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:27 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:08 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:19 pm

Why do you always ask for clarifying questions from another you who never provides any?
To SHOW and EXPOSE who, and what, the REAL 'you' IS. So, that future, to 'you', 'you' can SEE and UNDERSTAND what the REAL 'human being' ACTUALLY IS.

By REVEALING, through SHOWING, how the 'you', in the days of when this is written, were really so secretive, and thus so VERY CLOSED, that this is WHY human beings, as a collective whole, took SO LONG to ANSWER the REAL MEANINGFUL QUESTIONS in Life.

I want the future ones, to SEE EXACTLY HOW the human beings, in the days of when this was written, were SO VERY CLOSED, and to SEE WHY this CLOSEDNESS was leading them to their complete downfall.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:19 pm Isn't that a bit pointless?

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Not at all.

I am here, in this forum, to learn how to communicate better with 'you', human beings.

'you', human beings, do NOT listen to what I ACTUALLY SAY, and ACTUALLY MEAN. So, I endeavor to learn how to be better heard, and better understood, from 'you'.

I do this so that that the actual point, which I set out to reach is achieved, and which is to just SHOW and REVEAL to ALL of 'you' just how Truly SIMPLE and EASY it REALLY IS for ALL of 'you' to live in peace and in harmony together as One.

I find this NOT pointless at all. 'you' REVEALING "your" true 'self', which in turn REVEALS thee One and ONLY ACTUAL True 'Self', of EVERY 'one', is NOT pointless AT ALL, as this is what is NEEDED in order to bring about the True 'world', which we ALL want Truly WANT to live in.

I can see your point. It's a lovely story isn't it? ...

What do 'you' mean by 'lovely' here. To me that was NOT a 'lovely' story, AT ALL.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:27 pm I almost nearly shed a tear reading all that.

WHY?

And, HOW does 'NO one' "shed a tear" or "nearly shed a tear"?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:27 pm But the real actual problem with all that must is that there is no human being, nor is there a God, nor is there a 'you', or a 'me' or an 'I' for that matter...these are all just known concepts, known by nothing. aka Not a thing.

WHY does a 'you' SAY, and WRITE, this?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:27 pm So you see, there really is no such place as a utopian world full of harmony, or peace, where everyone is sitting around a cosy campfire wearing pretty yellow and white daisy chains singing Kumbaya.

I mean seriously, what planet do you think you are living on?

HOW could a 'non thing' "live on a planet"?

By the way, do 'you', the human being, recall that ABSOLUTELY EVERY thing that 'you', human beings, have made and have created, which 'you' live with NOW was ONCE also SEEN as being IMPOSSIBLE?

Posted: **Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:25 pm**

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:14 pm You see the reason why the twisting and distorting happens here between the ''you'' and the ''I'' is because expression of the one ''I'' can arise in multiple different ways that's all.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:12 pmBut WHY? Especially considering It refers to One 'Thing', Only?

One thing only.. cannot and does not ask why questions, if it did, then who would be the other one thing to answer that one thing other than it's same self?

So why would it do that, the answer is because there is no other one thing to do it with that's why.

Posted: **Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:26 pm**

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:32 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:19 pm
So, if this 'thing' does NOT exist, then WHY is it 'you' who brings this 'thing' up, and then talks about 'it'?
I did not bring this thing up...The thing brought me up...out of no thing.

So, the thing (the personal God), which you INSIST there is NONE, you now say, ACTUALLY brought you up.

Are 'you' AWARE of just how many times 'you' CONTRADICT "your" 'self'?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:32 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:19 pmThose of 'you' who used to bring up and talk about non existent things, not to long ago before the days of when this is being written, used to be sent to mental asylums, for some period of time. Why do 'you' "dontaskme" persist with this behavior, in the days of when this is being written?
Look your the one that brought up the idea of invisible minds, so welcome back to the asylum oh seeker.

It was 'you' who WANTED to get back to the "OP" and talk about YOUR BELIEF that: There is NO personal God.

SO, I started talking about 'that', but now that I have pointed out that 'you' brought some 'thing' up, which you then DENIED existed, but now you INSIST DOES ACTUALLY EXIST, and which ACTUALLY brought 'you' up, you now turn this around to 'me' and accuse me of doing some thing, which I OBVIOUSLY have NOT and NEVER have.

How could have I brought up some idea of "invisible minds" when I am CLEARLY thee One who says there is ONLY One Mind?

'you' REALLY DO NEED to LOOK AT and FOCUS ON the ACTUAL words that I do USE, WRITE, and SAY, and FOCUS on them ONLY. When 'you' FOCUS on what 'you' think or BELIEVE I have written and said, then you will end up BEING WRONG, which can be CLEARLY SEEN and EVIDENCED throughout YOUR WRITINGS.

Posted: **Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:29 pm**

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:35 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:27 pm
This is a PRIME EXAMPLE of HOW and WHEN information/knowledge, which is shared from the brain ONLY, is COMPLETELY INCAPABLE of CLARIFYING itself.

This happens when information/knowledge is NOT sourced from thee Source, thee Mind Itself, but rather is sourced from the brain, itself, only.
Just so you know, brains know fuck all. So yea be wasting your time with that lump of green evolved slime.

I often talk to my brain asking for answers to questions, but it never replies.

This is partly due to the FACT that that 'one' is, literally, goes by the name "dontaskme".

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:35 pm I have the same problem when I ask my arm or leg a question too.

But then who to ask?

I could ask the invisible sky daddy I suppose

Well there REALLY is ONLY One True Source.

But WHY ANY 'one' would call It a "daddy" only they would Truly KNOW.

Posted: **Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:30 pm**

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:18 pm
And, HOW does 'NO one' "shed a tear" or "nearly shed a tear"?

Same way the sun shines or the grass grows. These happenings just happen. Dontaskme how...ask the tear or the sun, maybe these things can shed a light on the why or how question.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:18 pmWHY does a 'you' SAY, and WRITE, this?

No 'you' ever uttered or wrote a word, I've already told you that umpteen times already.

Posted: **Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:45 pm**

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:19 pmSo, if this 'thing' does NOT exist, then WHY is it 'you' who brings this 'thing' up, and then talks about 'it'?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:32 pmI did not bring this thing up...The thing brought me up...out of no thing.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:19 pmSo, the thing (the personal God), which you INSIST there is NONE, you now say, ACTUALLY brought you up.

Are 'you' AWARE of just how many times 'you' CONTRADICT "your" 'self'?

Yes I am aware that I contradick myself.

What's it to you, do you have a problem with that?

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:19 pm

'you' REALLY DO NEED to LOOK AT and FOCUS ON the ACTUAL words that I do USE, WRITE, and SAY, and FOCUS on them ONLY. When 'you' FOCUS on what 'you' think or BELIEVE I have written and said, then you will end up BEING WRONG, which can be CLEARLY SEEN and EVIDENCED throughout YOUR WRITINGS.

Yeah I can clearly see from here that you are being wrong as evidenced in your writing, so thanks for being open and honest with me about this. Perhaps if you focused more on the actual words that you use, write and say, you wouldn't have the NEED for any clarity.

Also, you have no need to believe other peoples ways of writing which is only ever what they themselves believe to be true. Just remember, to always believe your own bullshit first, forget about other peoples bullshit beliefs...other peoples bullshit is none of your business anyway.

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Posted: **Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:55 pm**

DAM wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:29 pm
Just so you know, brains know fuck all. So yea be wasting your time with that lump of green evolved slime.

I often talk to my brain asking for answers to questions, but it never replies.

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:29 pmThis is partly due to the FACT that that 'one' is, literally, goes by the name "dontaskme".

Oh gawd, here we go again, no, no, no, no, you see this is where you are mixing apples with oranges again.

The concept dontaskme, is not the concept arm or leg or brain. It really isn't.

You see, I know the actual truth and so do you, but we say and know it in a different way that's all.

Why can't you just accept this simple and easy truth?

Posted: **Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:02 am**

Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:29 pm
Well there REALLY is ONLY One True Source.

But WHY ANY 'one' would call It a "daddy" only they would Truly KNOW.

That's right, only the source of knowing can know something.

And what is something, well it's anything at all, it can be a sky daddy or it can be an apple, it can be what ever concept fits.

It's not rocket science that the true source of knowing is the one that knows.

Posted: **Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:21 am**

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:49 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:35 pm
You have such a very narrowed and short sighted view of things, that you are MISSING the big and WHOLE picture here.
Aww, is that because I'm not as all knowing as you would like me to be, are you so frustrated that I am missing the big picture that you are trying to show me, does that make you sad,

No.

Have 'I' NOT informed 'you' that 'I' am NOT in this forum to necessarily SHOW NOR REVEAL ANY thing to 'you'?

If I have not, then I have NOW.

All I was doing here above is just REVEALING a part of thee ACTUAL Truth of things.

The ACTUAL REASON WHY 'you' have such a very narrowed and short sighted view of things is PERFECTLY REASONABLE and PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE. In fact there is ALSO a PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE REASON WHY 'you' are STILL NOT YET READY to become Truly Honest, and thus OPEN, so that 'you' COULD SEE the WHOLE picture here.

The biggest and best rewards are for those who wait, PATIENTLY.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:49 pm Aww, poor little you..you desperately want me to understand what you are saying don't you, aww, it must be so awful not being able to communicate this bigger picture with others so that they too will not miss it, and that all they seem to do is not understand what you are saying, oh my golly gosh you must be so gutted and tired of trying to communicate this with people all the time.

Is this one of those times when 'you' are talking to, and with, "your" 'self'?

See, as I have EXPLAINED ALREADY I am NOT here, in this forum, to be heard and understood. I am just here, in this forum, to LEARN how to be BETTER HEARD and BETTER UNDERSTOOD. When I LEARN this, then I can and will do this, somewhere else.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:49 pm However, I really must tell you that I don't think I'm going to lose out on understanding this BIG PICTURE conversation though, because quite frankly I don't give a fuck whether you believe or think I am missing something, because I already know the whole big picture whether you believe it or not. So there fuck face.

Okay.

Posted: **Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:24 am**

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:55 pm
Age wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:40 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:49 pm

It's just a figure of speech that's all....you know, like when you ask a child what are you doing and the child says nothing...but you really know they were doing something, and so does the child.

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SEE how EASY and SIMPLE it REALLY IS to just SAY, EXPLAIN, and UNDERSTAND, what thee ACTUAL Truth, actually, IS?
Yep, it's very easy and simple to explain that an apple is an apple and not an orange.

It's a bit like knowing 2+2 = 4

All very simple and easy half truths.

Because you then have to explain who the who is that knows these half truths, and that's where the simple easy gets a little bit tricky.

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It only gets "tricky" to those who BELIEVE that this is hard or complex to explain, and understand.

Take away the BELIEF/S and this ALL becomes Truly VERY SIMPLE and VERY EASY indeed.

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