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Re: Tell the holy truth and nothing but the holy truth
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2026 3:17 pm
by Walker
Objective (Merriam Webster):
"expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations"
Commentary:
Just because one has personal feelings and opinions does not mean that facts and conditions must be distorted by personal feelings, or else there would be no such thing as an objective judge, or judgement.
Re: Tell the holy truth and nothing but the holy truth
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2026 4:18 pm
by Greatest I am
Walker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2026 3:17 pm
Objective (Merriam Webster):
"expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations"
Commentary:
Just because one has personal feelings and opinions does not mean that facts and conditions must be distorted by personal feelings, or else there would be no such thing as an objective judge, or judgement.
Are you saying that Yahweh is not shown to be a genocidal p**** of a God?
You might want to look again for the first time.
On personal opinions. Almost all moral decisions are personal and subjective. Not objective.
That is why you want to have your opinion be the one respected here.
Re: Tell the holy truth and nothing but the holy truth
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2026 8:17 pm
by Walker
Question to AI:
What is impartial justice?
AI Answer:
“Impartial justice is the fair, neutral, and equal application of the law, where decisions are made without bias, prejudice, or favoritism based on factors like race, gender, or political opinion. It ensures that legal proceedings are objective, treating all parties with dignity and basing outcomes solely on evidence and legal principles. It ensures that legal proceedings are objective, treating all parties with dignity and basing outcomes solely on evidence and legal principles.”
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Re: Tell the holy truth and nothing but the holy truth
Posted: Sun Mar 15, 2026 3:59 pm
by Greatest I am
Walker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2026 8:17 pm
Question to AI:
What is impartial justice?
AI Answer:
“Impartial justice is the fair, neutral, and equal application of the law, where decisions are made without bias, prejudice, or favoritism based on factors like race, gender, or political opinion. It ensures that legal proceedings are objective, treating all parties with dignity and basing outcomes solely on evidence and legal principles. It ensures that legal proceedings are objective, treating all parties with dignity and basing outcomes solely on evidence and legal principles.”
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What does this have to do with what I put?
Re: Tell the holy truth and nothing but the holy truth
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2026 3:04 pm
by Walker
It has to do with the subjective/objective reference.
Re: Tell the holy truth and nothing but the holy truth
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2026 3:35 pm
by Walker
God’s mercy may in fact be objective judgment that is based on the all of a greater data base than lesser humans (lesser than God) can access, which is why human morality is called subjective, and which would account for AI fears.
Re: Tell the holy truth and nothing but the holy truth
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2026 9:58 pm
by Greatest I am
Walker wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2026 3:17 pm
Objective (Merriam Webster):
"expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations"
Commentary:
Just because one has personal feelings and opinions does not mean that facts and conditions must be distorted by personal feelings, or else there would be no such thing as an objective judge, or judgement.
I knew the definition.
I do not see an argument or example/proof of concept though.
Re: Tell the holy truth and nothing but the holy truth
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2026 10:01 pm
by Greatest I am
Walker wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2026 3:35 pm
God’s mercy may in fact be objective judgment that is based on the all of a greater data base than lesser humans (lesser than God) can access, which is why human morality is called subjective, and which would account for AI fears.
God's mercy is an imaginary concept. So are all the supernatural Gods.
Re: Tell the holy truth and nothing but the holy truth
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2026 12:59 am
by Walker
Any phenomena that exists as other than imagined is natural. Ignorance of processes makes a natural phenomenon,
super-natural. Enthusiasm makes it super duper natural. A phenomenon is the inevitable result of interacting elements that comprise a condition. When science can explain everything, that will be the end of
extra-ordinary.
Re: Tell the holy truth and nothing but the holy truth
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2026 8:00 pm
by Greatest I am
Walker wrote: ↑Tue Mar 17, 2026 12:59 am
Any phenomena that exists as other than imagined is natural. Ignorance of processes makes a natural phenomenon,
super-natural. Enthusiasm makes it super duper natural. A phenomenon is the inevitable result of interacting elements that comprise a condition. When science can explain everything, that will be the end of
extra-ordinary.
Nicely stated, but I think we will always have gullible and the fools.
I am a dualistic thinker and know there is a good in supernatural thinking, but not much.
Re: Tell the holy truth and nothing but the holy truth
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2026 4:15 pm
by Walker
Because science cannot explain everything, then what we call supernatural is actually referencing preternatural.
One-word, unpunctuated question to AI:
Preternatural
AI answer:
Blah blah blah, then …
“Key Differences from Supernatural:
- Preternatural refers to events that exceed the regular course of nature but might be produced by hidden, non-human, or angelic forces.
- Supernatural relates to forces entirely outside the physical world or laws of physics, such as miracles or God.”
With that answer, AI separates God from angelic forces. Sneaky.
Re: Tell the holy truth and nothing but the holy truth
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2026 5:22 pm
by Greatest I am
Walker wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2026 4:15 pm
Because science cannot explain everything, then what we call supernatural is actually referencing preternatural.
One-word, unpunctuated question to AI:
Preternatural
AI answer:
Blah blah blah, then …
“Key Differences from Supernatural:
- Preternatural refers to events that exceed the regular course of nature but might be produced by hidden, non-human, or angelic forces.
- Supernatural relates to forces entirely outside the physical world or laws of physics, such as miracles or God.”
With that answer, AI separates God from angelic forces. Sneaky.
Fantasy is fantasy.
All supernatural entities are fiction. If there is one, it would be a proof of concept for many Gods.
Re: Tell the holy truth and nothing but the holy truth
Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2026 4:43 am
by Walker
Holy science!
Dark matter is thought to exist only because it explains phenomena inexplicable to human understanding, which can also be said of fantasy.
Science can also answer these questions to science’s satisfaction.
Where do we come from?
What are we?
Where are we going?
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Re: Tell the holy truth and nothing but the holy truth
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2026 5:10 pm
by Greatest I am
Walker wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2026 4:43 am
1. Where do we come from?
2. What are we?
3. Where are we going?
1. I had a mother and father. Didn't you?
2. We are humans.
3. All humans die.
Re: Tell the holy truth and nothing but the holy truth
Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2026 6:52 pm
by Impenitent
the holy truth is that bagels usually roll better than donuts
yet if they were simultaneously affixed to either end of an axel, the axel would probably turn as it progressed...
-Imp
