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Comrade Rosa's instructional on how to agree to worship the same god and what steps are necessary to do so.

"Why can’t we agree to follow the same god?" - question

First of all, it would be helpful if the questioner is able to show that the countless figments of the imagination lodged in billions of heads throughout human history, and not just today — which are all presumably called ‘god’ — are all completely identical.

Next, that the figment of the imagination in the questioner’s head today is identical with the figment in his head yesterday, and the day before, and the day before, and…

Next, that this is true of the aforementioned billions of figments in everyone else’s head: that they are identical with the figments in their heads yesterday, and the day before, and the day before, and…

Next, that all of the above will be true tomorrow, and the next day, and the next, and…

Finally, demonstrate that when these figments have all been shown to be identical — in every respect and at all times — that this ‘universally identical figment’ actually exists exterior to his and everyone else’s brain (i.e., that it isn’t just a fantasy, a creation of billions of overheated minds).

Then, and only then will it be possible to answer the question at the top of this page.

Short of that, stop wasting our time.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:26 pm

LuckyR wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:38 am

Age wrote: ↑Thu Aug 21, 2025 7:45 am

Why?

Does some thing only exist if there is some one believing in 'it'?

It does for entities that exist inter-subjectively.

Well considering you are not answering the actual question I posed, and asked you, you are revealing, maybe accidentally, what the actual Truth is, here.

The truth is to do with the concept of "inter-subjectively". Try looking it up, Age.

Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Sep 06, 2025 8:21 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:26 pm

LuckyR wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:38 am

It does for entities that exist inter-subjectively.

Well considering you are not answering the actual question I posed, and asked you, you are revealing, maybe accidentally, what the actual Truth is, here.

The truth is to do with the concept of "inter-subjectively". Try looking it up, Age.

you "belinda" have obviously missed the point I am wanting to make, here.

Things like planets would obviously be existing if there were, or were no, entities existing. For the simple fact that entities, like you human beings, come from pre-existing things.

Now, what do you mean by 'inter-subjectively', exactly?

To me, anyway, things exist with or with out things like 'inter-subjective views or opinions', which exist between things like you human beings. Again, things exist anyway even if there are not thinking creatures, again like you human beings.

Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Sep 06, 2025 8:21 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:26 pm

LuckyR wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:38 am

It does for entities that exist inter-subjectively.

Well considering you are not answering the actual question I posed, and asked you, you are revealing, maybe accidentally, what the actual Truth is, here.

The truth is to do with the concept of "inter-subjectively". Try looking it up, Age.

But that would make asking questions to explain the obvious unnecessary. And where's the fun in that?

LuckyR wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 7:59 am

Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Sep 06, 2025 8:21 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:26 pm

Well considering you are not answering the actual question I posed, and asked you, you are revealing, maybe accidentally, what the actual Truth is, here.

The truth is to do with the concept of "inter-subjectively". Try looking it up, Age.

But that would make asking questions to explain the obvious unnecessary. And where's the fun in that?

Contrary to 'popular belief', here, things do actually exist whether some one is believing it, or not.

So, obviously the actual Truth is things do exist whether entities that exist inter-subjectively believe they do or not.

But, 'this' can only be explained to, and be understood by, those entities that exist 'inter-subjectively' that already understand and know what the term and phrase' 'inter-subjectively' means and is referring to, exactly.

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 8:40 am

LuckyR wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 7:59 am

Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Sep 06, 2025 8:21 pm
The truth is to do with the concept of "inter-subjectively". Try looking it up, Age.

But that would make asking questions to explain the obvious unnecessary. And where's the fun in that?

Contrary to 'popular belief', here, things do actually exist whether some one is believing it, or not.

So, obviously the actual Truth is things do exist whether entities that exist inter-subjectively believe they do or not.

But, 'this' can only be explained to, and be understood by, those entities that exist 'inter-subjectively' that already understand and know what the term and phrase' 'inter-subjectively' means and is referring to, exactly.

Age's theory of existence is known in philosophical circles as materialism. Materialism is well sceptical. But not as sceptical as another theory of existence known as immaterialism or idealism.

LuckyR wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 7:59 am

Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Sep 06, 2025 8:21 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 23, 2025 1:26 pm

Well considering you are not answering the actual question I posed, and asked you, you are revealing, maybe accidentally, what the actual Truth is, here.

The truth is to do with the concept of "inter-subjectively". Try looking it up, Age.

But that would make asking questions to explain the obvious unnecessary. And where's the fun in that?

Yes ,but genuinely seeking information or discussion is not inconsistent with teasing .

Belinda wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 10:06 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 8:40 am

LuckyR wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 7:59 am

But that would make asking questions to explain the obvious unnecessary. And where's the fun in that?

Contrary to 'popular belief', here, things do actually exist whether some one is believing it, or not.

So, obviously the actual Truth is things do exist whether entities that exist inter-subjectively believe they do or not.

But, 'this' can only be explained to, and be understood by, those entities that exist 'inter-subjectively' that already understand and know what the term and phrase' 'inter-subjectively' means and is referring to, exactly.

Age's theory of existence is known in philosophical circles as materialism. Materialism is well sceptical. But not as sceptical as another theory of existence known as immaterialism or idealism.

Age fails to see that matter is a distinction of the mind for it exists by degree of contrast to the distinction of abstraction thus relegating it's coherency to the very thing is claims is unreal. Materialism contradicts itself by degree of the abstractions that arise from it.

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 8:40 am

LuckyR wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 7:59 am

Belinda wrote: ↑Sat Sep 06, 2025 8:21 pm
The truth is to do with the concept of "inter-subjectively". Try looking it up, Age.

But that would make asking questions to explain the obvious unnecessary. And where's the fun in that?

Contrary to 'popular belief', here, things do actually exist whether some one is believing it, or not.

So, obviously the actual Truth is things do exist whether entities that exist inter-subjectively believe they do or not.

But, 'this' can only be explained to, and be understood by, those entities that exist 'inter-subjectively' that already understand and know what the term and phrase' 'inter-subjectively' means and is referring to, exactly.

Inter subjective entities are those that exist as a shared belief between many individuals. Like gods.

Only Truth is real. Lies burn and shrivel to Nothing in the light of truth. Everything is Truth.

Love cannot die. Have you ever noticed that? Love reigns supreme sovereignty.

Truth=Love=Good=Eternity=God

God is Love

God is selfless, unconditional, real and true. A Love that holds space for you to be the selfish fuck you are.

God is the platform for everything. The platform for everything is TRUTH

LuckyR wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:33 am

Age wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 8:40 am

LuckyR wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 7:59 am

But that would make asking questions to explain the obvious unnecessary. And where's the fun in that?

Contrary to 'popular belief', here, things do actually exist whether some one is believing it, or not.

So, obviously the actual Truth is things do exist whether entities that exist inter-subjectively believe they do or not.

But, 'this' can only be explained to, and be understood by, those entities that exist 'inter-subjectively' that already understand and know what the term and phrase' 'inter-subjectively' means and is referring to, exactly.

Inter subjective entities are those that exist as a shared belief between many individuals. Like gods.

Was your claim, and example, here, meant to 'clear things up', here?

If yes, then okay.

Now, 'I' asked 'you',
'Does some thing only exist if there is some one believing in 'it'?'

To which 'you' replied,

'It does for entities that exist inter-subjectively.'

But, 'now' you say and claim that, 'inter-subjective entities' are 'those', which exist in a 'shared belief between many individuals'.

So,

1. First off, things can exist whether there is some entity believing in 'it', or not.

2. 'Inter-subjectivity' does not matter if things exist, or not.

3. If things exist for 'inter-subjectively entities', then so what?

4. Why can there not be just a small number of so-called 'inter-subjective entities'?

5. And, a shared belief by a group of some or many people does not mean that what they believe actually does exist.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:05 am Only Truth is real. Lies burn and shrivel to Nothing in the light of truth. Everything is Truth.

So, only 'Truth' is real. But, Every thing is Truth.

Which, again, makes 'me' wonder why 'this one' keeps creating and presenting contradictions, here.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:05 am Love cannot die. Have you ever noticed that? Love reigns supreme sovereignty.

Truth=Love=Good=Eternity=God

Falsehoods, abuse, bad, and temporal also exist.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:15 am God is Love

But, 'this one' also claims that God is everything, and thus hate as well.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:15 am God is selfless, unconditional, real and true.

But, to 'this one' anyway, God is also selfish, conditional, not real, and not true.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:15 am A Love that holds space for you to be the selfish fuck you are.

And, to even hold the so-called 'selfish fuck' that you are, and God is also.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:15 am God is the platform for everything. The platform for everything is TRUTH

Again, if you would like some help in finding the Right words to use, here, so that you do not end up continually contradicting "your" own 'self', here, then 'I' am more than happy to provide 'you' some assistance.

Age wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:01 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:15 am God is Love

But, 'this one' also claims that God is everything, and thus hate as well.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:15 am God is selfless, unconditional, real and true.

But, to 'this one' anyway, God is also selfish, conditional, not real, and not true.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:15 am A Love that holds space for you to be the selfish fuck you are.

And, to even hold the so-called 'selfish fuck' that you are, and God is also.

Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 10, 2025 7:15 am God is the platform for everything. The platform for everything is TRUTH

Again, if you would like some help in finding the Right words to use, here, so that you do not end up continually contradicting "your" own 'self', here, then 'I' am more than happy to provide 'you' some assistance.

Unconditional Love allows everything to be. There’s nothing excluded from Gods love.

I don’t know how many times I’ve mentioned this to you, but you choose not to listen, and the reason you don’t listen is because you have closed yourself off to others points of view. You are not open you are closed.

Start a thread if using the right words is important to you. You could call the thread HOW TO USE THE RIGHT WORDS TO AVOID CONTRADICTING YOURSELF.

Until you start that thread you’ll just continue to make an absolute ass out of yourself which you have successfully succeeded to do in every interaction you’ve ever had with others and is why most people just ignore you.

Your communication style is atrocious.