Re: LGBTQ+ foolish alliance with Islam
Posted: Sun May 19, 2024 5:00 pm
It's difficult to remain polite with you because you think too highly of yourself while using foul language. Ok, I'll try again, but it is getting seriously hard to avoid getting dragged down to your very, very low level.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 1:29 pmYou do understand the irrelevance of what you just stated - considering Christ and James existed 600 years before your warlord Mohammad ever existed.godelian wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 12:22 pmYou fail to understand both Christianity and Islam.attofishpi wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 12:09 pm You still haven't provided a reason why you abandonded a man of honour (Christ) for the above twat.
Muhammad was the legitimate successor to James the Just, the brother of Christ, who was himself the legitimate successor to Christ at the helm of the Congregation of the Poor.
Muhammed was the successor to Waraqah Ibn Naufal as the leader of the Ebionites, i.e. the Congregation of the Poor, and can trace back his succession in the chain of succession all the way back to Christ. As I already mentioned before, the Ebionites spent centuries fleeing persecution in the Roman empire until they ended up in Arabia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebionites
Ebionites (Greek: Ἐβιωναῖοι, translit. Ebiōnaîoi, derived from Hebrew אֶבְיוֹנִים,[1] ʾEḇyōnīm, meaning 'the poor' or 'poor ones') as a term refers to a Jewish Christian sect, which viewed poverty as a blessing, that existed during the early centuries of the Common Era.[2][3]
Among modern scholars, Robert Eisenman suggests that the Ebionites revered James the Just, brother of Jesus and leader of the Jerusalem church, as the true successor to Jesus (rather than Peter) and an exemplar of righteousness, and therefore they followed the permanent Nazirite vow that James had taken.[60]
The Ebionites rejected the Pauline Epistles,[3] and according to Origen they viewed Paul as an "apostate from the law".[71]
Hans Joachim Schoeps observes that the Christianity which Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, was likely to have encountered on the Arabian peninsula "was not the state religion of Byzantium but a schismatic Christianity characterized by Ebionite and Monophysite views":[38]: 137
Thus we have a paradox of world-historical proportions, viz., the fact that Jewish Christianity indeed disappeared within the Christian church, but was preserved in Islam and thereby extended some of its basic ideas even to our own day. According to Islamic doctrine, the Ebionite combination of Moses and Jesus found its fulfillment in Muhammad. — Hans Joachim Schoeps, Jewish Christianity[38]: 140
It is not a coincidence that the Islamic view of Jesus is pretty much the same as the Ebionite one. It is obvious that Islam grew out of the Congregation of the Poor.Eusebius relates a tradition, probably based on Aristo of Pella, that the early Christians left Jerusalem just prior to the war and fled to Pella,[29] Jordan beyond the Jordan River, but does not connect this with Ebionites.[18][19] They were led by Simeon of Jerusalem (d. 107) and during the Second Jewish-Roman War of 115–117, they were persecuted by the Jewish followers of Bar Kochba for refusing to recognize his messianic claims.[28] As late as Epiphanius of Salamis (310–403), members of the Ebionite sect resided in Nabatea, and Paneas, Moabitis, and Kochaba in the region of Bashan, near Adraa.[30] From these places, they dispersed and went into Asia (Anatolia), Rome and Cyprus.[30]
The Ebionites are still attested, if as marginal communities, down to the 7th century. Some modern scholars argue that the Ebionites survived much longer and identify them with a sect encountered by the historian Abd al-Jabbar ibn Ahmad around the year 1000.[35] There is another possible reference to Ebionite communities existing around the 11th century in northwestern Arabia in Sefer Ha'masaot, the "Book of the Travels" of Rabbi Benjamin of Tudela, a rabbi from Spain. These communities were located in two cities, Tayma and "Tilmas",[36] possibly Saada in Yemen. The 12th century Muslim historian Muhammad al-Shahrastani mentions Jews living in nearby Medina and Hejaz who accepted Jesus as a prophetic figure and followed traditional Judaism, rejecting mainstream Christian views.[37] Some scholars argue that they contributed to the development of the Islamic view of Jesus due to exchanges of Ebionite remnants with the first Muslims.[19][38]
