LGBTQ+ foolish alliance with Islam

[godelian]

You still haven't provided a reason why you abandonded a man of honour (Christ) for the above twat.

You fail to understand both Christianity and Islam.

Muhammad was the legitimate successor to James the Just, the brother of Christ, who was himself the legitimate successor to Christ at the helm of the Congregation of the Poor.

You do understand the irrelevance of what you just stated - considering Christ and James existed 600 years before your warlord Mohammad ever existed.

It's difficult to remain polite with you because you think too highly of yourself while using foul language. Ok, I'll try again, but it is getting seriously hard to avoid getting dragged down to your very, very low level.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebionites

Ebionites (Greek: Ἐβιωναῖοι, translit. Ebiōnaîoi, derived from Hebrew אֶבְיוֹנִים‎,[1] ʾEḇyōnīm, meaning 'the poor' or 'poor ones') as a term refers to a Jewish Christian sect, which viewed poverty as a blessing, that existed during the early centuries of the Common Era.[2][3]

Among modern scholars, Robert Eisenman suggests that the Ebionites revered James the Just, brother of Jesus and leader of the Jerusalem church, as the true successor to Jesus (rather than Peter) and an exemplar of righteousness, and therefore they followed the permanent Nazirite vow that James had taken.[60]

The Ebionites rejected the Pauline Epistles,[3] and according to Origen they viewed Paul as an "apostate from the law".[71]

Hans Joachim Schoeps observes that the Christianity which Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, was likely to have encountered on the Arabian peninsula "was not the state religion of Byzantium but a schismatic Christianity characterized by Ebionite and Monophysite views":[38]: 137 

Thus we have a paradox of world-historical proportions, viz., the fact that Jewish Christianity indeed disappeared within the Christian church, but was preserved in Islam and thereby extended some of its basic ideas even to our own day. According to Islamic doctrine, the Ebionite combination of Moses and Jesus found its fulfillment in Muhammad. — Hans Joachim Schoeps, Jewish Christianity[38]: 140 

Muhammed was the successor to Waraqah Ibn Naufal as the leader of the Ebionites, i.e. the Congregation of the Poor, and can trace back his succession in the chain of succession all the way back to Christ. As I already mentioned before, the Ebionites spent centuries fleeing persecution in the Roman empire until they ended up in Arabia:

Eusebius relates a tradition, probably based on Aristo of Pella, that the early Christians left Jerusalem just prior to the war and fled to Pella,[29] Jordan beyond the Jordan River, but does not connect this with Ebionites.[18][19] They were led by Simeon of Jerusalem (d. 107) and during the Second Jewish-Roman War of 115–117, they were persecuted by the Jewish followers of Bar Kochba for refusing to recognize his messianic claims.[28] As late as Epiphanius of Salamis (310–403), members of the Ebionite sect resided in Nabatea, and Paneas, Moabitis, and Kochaba in the region of Bashan, near Adraa.[30] From these places, they dispersed and went into Asia (Anatolia), Rome and Cyprus.[30]

The Ebionites are still attested, if as marginal communities, down to the 7th century. Some modern scholars argue that the Ebionites survived much longer and identify them with a sect encountered by the historian Abd al-Jabbar ibn Ahmad around the year 1000.[35] There is another possible reference to Ebionite communities existing around the 11th century in northwestern Arabia in Sefer Ha'masaot, the "Book of the Travels" of Rabbi Benjamin of Tudela, a rabbi from Spain. These communities were located in two cities, Tayma and "Tilmas",[36] possibly Saada in Yemen. The 12th century Muslim historian Muhammad al-Shahrastani mentions Jews living in nearby Medina and Hejaz who accepted Jesus as a prophetic figure and followed traditional Judaism, rejecting mainstream Christian views.[37] Some scholars argue that they contributed to the development of the Islamic view of Jesus due to exchanges of Ebionite remnants with the first Muslims.[19][38]

It is not a coincidence that the Islamic view of Jesus is pretty much the same as the Ebionite one. It is obvious that Islam grew out of the Congregation of the Poor.

[attofishpi]

You fail to understand both Christianity and Islam.

Muhammad was the legitimate successor to James the Just, the brother of Christ, who was himself the legitimate successor to Christ at the helm of the Congregation of the Poor.

You do understand the irrelevance of what you just stated - considering Christ and James existed 600 years before your warlord Mohammad ever existed.

It's difficult to remain polite with you because you think too highly of yourself while using foul language. Ok, I'll try again, but it is getting seriously hard to avoid getting dragged down to your very, very low level.

This is the 21st Century - politeness which back in the day was used to obfuscate intelligence and wit - well fuck that.

My very very low level that you speak of is on the bottom side of the planet - so keep going.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebionites

Ebionites (Greek: Ἐβιωναῖοι, translit. Ebiōnaîoi, derived from Hebrew אֶבְיוֹנִים‎,[1] ʾEḇyōnīm, meaning 'the poor' or 'poor ones') as a term refers to a Jewish Christian sect, which viewed poverty as a blessing, that existed during the early centuries of the Common Era.[2][3]

Among modern scholars, Robert Eisenman suggests that the Ebionites revered James the Just, brother of Jesus and leader of the Jerusalem church, as the true successor to Jesus (rather than Peter) and an exemplar of righteousness, and therefore they followed the permanent Nazirite vow that James had taken.[60]

The Ebionites rejected the Pauline Epistles,[3] and according to Origen they viewed Paul as an "apostate from the law".[71]

Hans Joachim Schoeps observes that the Christianity which Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, was likely to have encountered on the Arabian peninsula "was not the state religion of Byzantium but a schismatic Christianity characterized by Ebionite and Monophysite views":[38]: 137 

So.

You mention Mohammad here (600 years after Christ) - in other words, 600 years worth of begat after begat after begat of BOLLOCKS.

Ergo. I remain steadfast in taking the piss out of whatever has been preached to you about some Muhammad having some intelligible link back to CHRIST.

Let's face it - the warlord needs something to cling to and duck me if Imams of "Islam" must have thought up all sorts of bollocks to make it sound as if it remained with some form of 'divinity' - after the main man went to his death for LOVE -Christ- (shame Mor Ham Mad was about control and hate)

Thus we have a paradox of world-historical proportions, viz., the fact that Jewish Christianity indeed disappeared within the Christian church

No not only does the Christian Church still remain THE most beautiful creation of MASON and man - but wow - you should see the Cathedrals.

I know in Mosques you don't get to sit but on the floor (we managed to build seating arrangements)

, but was preserved in Islam and thereby extended some of its basic ideas even to our own day. According to Islamic doctrine, the Ebionite combination of Moses and Jesus found its fulfillment in Muhammad. — Hans Joachim Schoeps, Jewish Christianity[38]: 140 

..and yes - Islam would not exist had the Mor Ham Mad warlord not stole ideas from the ACTUAL Divinely inspired religions.

Fulfilment in Mohammad - LMAO - the warlord attempted to decimate (actual men of God) simply because they would not accept him as a "PROPHET" -- he could not PROFIT (that English divine language thang again)

Muhammed was the successor to Waraqah Ibn Naufal as the leader of the Ebionites, i.e. the Congregation of the Poor, and can trace back his succession in the chain of succession all the way back to Christ.

Even with todays recording of ancestory and DNA - we have trouble getting beyond 150 years - but you Islamic "Imams" or preachers told you so, and so it is...they link back to ACTUAL divinity (CHRIST) - without that MorHamMad is just a ****.

As I already mentioned before, the Ebionites spent centuries fleeing persecution in the Roman empire until they ended up in Arabia:

Eusebius relates a tradition, probably based on Aristo of Pella, that the early Christians left Jerusalem just prior to the war and fled to Pella,[29] Jordan beyond the Jordan River, but does not connect this with Ebionites.[18][19] They were led by Simeon of Jerusalem (d. 107) and during the Second Jewish-Roman War of 115–117, they were persecuted by the Jewish followers of Bar Kochba for refusing to recognize his messianic claims.[28] As late as Epiphanius of Salamis (310–403), members of the Ebionite sect resided in Nabatea, and Paneas, Moabitis, and Kochaba in the region of Bashan, near Adraa.[30] From these places, they dispersed and went into Asia (Anatolia), Rome and Cyprus.[30]

The Ebionites are still attested, if as marginal communities, down to the 7th century. Some modern scholars argue that the Ebionites survived much longer and identify them with a sect encountered by the historian Abd al-Jabbar ibn Ahmad around the year 1000.[35] There is another possible reference to Ebionite communities existing around the 11th century in northwestern Arabia in Sefer Ha'masaot, the "Book of the Travels" of Rabbi Benjamin of Tudela, a rabbi from Spain. These communities were located in two cities, Tayma and "Tilmas",[36] possibly Saada in Yemen. The 12th century Muslim historian Muhammad al-Shahrastani mentions Jews living in nearby Medina and Hejaz who accepted Jesus as a prophetic figure and followed traditional Judaism, rejecting mainstream Christian views.[37] Some scholars argue that they contributed to the development of the Islamic view of Jesus due to exchanges of Ebionite remnants with the first Muslims.[19][38]

Am I supposed to weep or something? That Arab Muslim ungodly scum had more skirmishes with Jews or whomever - when actually they should have fucked off away from ACTUAL men of God - back to the desert of Arabia or wherever else they could fuck off to, and leave Jews and Christians there in peace in their homeland..

It is not a coincidence that the Islamic view of Jesus is pretty much the same as the Ebionite one. It is obvious that Islam grew out of the Congregation of the Poor.

Islam grew out of a pedophile (warlord) called Mohammad who married a 6 year old girl (was it his neice?) and then thought it was honourable to fuck her when she was 9.

Is it now coincidence that it takes really really dumb fucks to reject the honour of a man - even CHRIST for such a disgusting excuse for a human (that twat Muslims actually think is a PROFIT) ??

[godelian]

Ergo. I remain steadfast in taking the piss out of whatever has been preached to you about some Muhammad having some intelligible link back to CHRIST.

I don't think that you noticed but the scholarship that I mentioned on the matter is pretty much exclusively Jewish and Christian.

It is beyond any reasonable doubt that Islam is the continuation of Ebionite Christianity,. It is the only legitimate continuation of the Congregation of the Poor.

You, on the other hand, are a fake follower of Christ. Your real leader is Paul, the heretical apostate of the Law. Read the scholarship. If you do, you will understand why your beliefs have very little to do with Christ.

[attofishpi]

Ergo. I remain steadfast in taking the piss out of whatever has been preached to you about some Muhammad having some intelligible link back to CHRIST.

I don't think that you noticed but the scholarship that I mentioned on the matter is pretty much exclusively Jewish and Christian.

It is beyond any reasonable doubt that Islam is the continuation of Ebionite Christianity,. It is the only legitimate continuation of the Congregation of the Poor.

You, on the other hand, are a fake follower of Christ. Your real leader is Paul, the heretical apostate of the Law. Read the scholarship. If you do, you will understand why your beliefs have very little to do with Christ.

There is nothing fake about my following of Christ nor Christianity. God introduced itself to me in 1997. After November 2005 a sage communicated to me from the aether, and told me that Christ did die on the crucifix and resurrect.

You can talk all day about lineages - true or false it matters not. (what you state is rubbish)

Mohammad - the False Prohet
In the Koran Mohammad had stated that if he is a false prohet then God kill him by cutting his aorta.

Muhammad made his verse about how Allah he will kill him if he is False Prophet but he never thought he will die in such a way and he will even say before his death such words “O ‘Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.” (Book #59, Hadith #713)

Thus God made Mohamad feel as if his aorta was being cut as he died - forcing him to state confirmation that indeed he was a false prohet.

He had nothing to do with God.

[godelian]

After November 2005 a sage communicated to me from the aether, and told me that Christ did die on the crucifix and resurrect.

Christ did not die at the cross.

Jeshu is not a proper name. It is a rabbinical designation. It literally means "may his name be blotted out". It usually just designates the person as a heretic. So, "Jeshu" means "heretic".

The rabbis brought two Jeshu, i.e. two alleged heretics, in front of the Roman governor. As requested by the crowd, the governor set free Jeshu Bar Abbah, the heretical son of (an unknown) father who was also referred to as the heretical son of (an unknown) man.

It is the other Jeshu who got crucified. So, there was indeed a Jeshu crucified but it was not Christ. The Christ came back after three days because he was not dead to begin with. He did not "resurrect".

The reason why you mistakenly believe that the Christ was crucified, is because of Origen's forgeries. He doctored the gospels. We know this because there are still copies of the original gospels.

[attofishpi]

Ah, hang on I am supposed to believe your crap instead of what God and sage directly tell me (from the aether)!!!

The 'miracles' I have witnessed since 1997 leaves me to consider what form of wine did Christ (via God) turn from water - rather than whether it actually happened - Shiraz, Cab Sav perhaps?

[godelian]

Ah, hang on I am supposed to believe your crap instead of what God and sage directly tell me (from the aether)!!!

You believe in Origen's forgeries. Origen doctored the Gospels and you are falling for it. He was the grandmaster of Christian interpolation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_interpolation

In textual criticism, Christian interpolation generally refers to textual insertion and textual damage to Jewish and pagan source texts during Christian scribal transmission.

Notable examples among the body of texts known as Old Testament pseudepigrapha include the disputed authenticity of Similitudes of Enoch and 4 Ezra which in the form transmitted by Christian scribal traditions contain arguably later Christian understanding of terms such as Son of Man.

You believe in Origen's lies and you are furthering them as well.

[attofishpi]

Ah, hang on I am supposed to believe your crap instead of what God and sage directly tell me (from the aether)!!!

You believe in Origen's forgeries. Origen doctored the Gospels and you are falling for it. He was the grandmaster of Christian interpolation:

UNDER_STAND --> this.

As I have stated, that the common language of Earth - English - a worldwide language --- GOD has convoluted KEY words for us to UNDER_STAND.

Christ instructed that to know God is only through Christ.

I KNOW GOD.

Christ stated "I am the light"

Where do humans gain the light? ---> Through their PUPILS.

Ergo, we of God's wisdom (those that believe) are PUPILS of the LIGHT.

The fact that silly people convert to belief in a paedophile warlord that was a disgusting excuse for a human - -> let alone a PIG (Mor Ham Mad)...well...if U want to follow in his footsteps and kill in the name of GOD - go ahead - we Englishman love bacon.

[godelian]

Christ instructed that to know God is only through Christ.

In that case, why are you doing it through Paul, the heretical apostate of the law?

[attofishpi]

Christ instructed that to know God is only through Christ.

In that case, why are you doing it through Paul, the heretical apostate of the law?

You really are Appauling!!

GOD's formation of parts of the English language really makes it easy to take the piss out of a 'religion' stemming from a false prophet.

Muzzle Em (Islam is to a man, as rabbies is to a dog - Winston Churchill)
Islamabad (Islam_is_bad) Islamabad, all roads seem to lead to Zero Point! (a roundabout)
Islame - just add an 'e'!

But all larf's aside I must reiterate that I have direct contact with the Divine God - at least once a week. You were too weak for Christ

Imam makes shocking confession about ISLAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElY8sRu9Hi0&t=631s