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Ask yourself in the first person singular pronoun… do you need distractions and hobbies in order to enjoy your existence?

Distractions and hobbies are lumped together in that question.

And it asks about enjoying existence instead of bearing existence.

Some sort of shifting going on.

Would praying to gravity make one’s life bearable?

I still don't know why life needs to be made "bearable".

Mind you, I have been ridiculed on philosophy forums for saying that "life is good".

I might be a wacko.

Peeing in the woods.

phyllo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:28 pm

But isn't that what fantasy is; a form of distraction?

An implicit assumption that God is fantasy.

More of an educated guess.

commonsense wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:01 pm

Impenitent wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:29 pm hibernation is a bear necessity

nudity is a bare necessity

and if you must bear it, you should grin

-Imp

That is bearly correct.

A nice scratchy tree...



Honey...



And this...



...a pic-a-nic basket.
_______

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:34 pm

phyllo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:28 pm

But isn't that what fantasy is; a form of distraction?

An implicit assumption that God is fantasy.

More of an educated guess.

You're educated and people who don't think God is a fantasy are what?

Delusional? Stupid? Irrational? Indoctrinated? Mentally ill? Fearful? Desperate? Deficient?

I can't say that I'm interested in another bashing thread.

phyllo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:43 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:34 pm

phyllo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:28 pm
An implicit assumption that God is fantasy.

More of an educated guess.

You're educated and people who don't think God is a fantasy are what?

Fantasists?

Delusional? Stupid? Irrational? Indoctrinated? Mentally ill? Fearful? Desperate? Deficient?

Possibly, but not necessarily.

I can't say that I'm interested in another bashing thread.

You'll just have to make do with writing it then.

Apparently bears are going bald. Unfortunately fur is a 'bare necessity' for them.

and according to algore, polar bears need swimming lessons

-Imp

phyllo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:31 pm
Distractions and hobbies are lumped together in that question.

And it asks about enjoying existence instead of bearing existence.

Some sort of shifting going on.

Shifting some more, imagine you had not been born a human, instead you were born a cow, or a sheep. These creatures spend their entire lives standing or laying around in open fields with nothing to do but graze on grass all day long. They do not have the luxury of tv's, the internet, hobbies, etc...
Would a human be able to bear a life like that? I hardly think so, we've invented ways to distract ourselves from the truth, that life is but a hair's breadth away from pure nothingness. And is why human beings choose to fill up their void with whatever gets them through their nights, days, weeks, months, years, lifetimes.

phyllo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:31 pmI still don't know why life needs to be made "bearable".

Whatever life is, it is self evidently bearable, else humans would cease to continue the desire and will to live. Everyone seems to bear their lives, no matter what happens to them, people even bear their physical ailments, cancers, emotional and mental illnesses, and their pain. So yes, people do bear their lives in one way or another. They will always find something to distract themselves away from the the inescapable entropy of all living organisms.

phyllo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:31 pmMind you, I have been ridiculed on philosophy forums for saying that "life is good".

I might be a wacko.

On the human level, life is only good because it's not bad. But it's both, yet neither, in the grand scheme of things. No thing alive can outrun entropy.

I had to make you uncomfortable, otherwise you never would've moved - God

I don't want to just peer into the abyss, I want to maintain uncomfortable eye contact with it - God

Yes, I was made to bear my cross - God

phyllo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:31 pm
I still don't know why life needs to be made "bearable".

Mind you, I have been ridiculed on philosophy forums for saying that "life is good".

I might be a wacko.

Good for you.

"One must imagine Sisyphus happy"

If you can't change circumstances, you can try changing your attitude towards them.
God is the straw to which the drowner clings. It might be quite cruel to try to take it away from him. On the other hand, if you dive in, the straw becomes a distraction.

Balance is important to the universe, or at least that's what it strives for. Although to be fair, balance is the opposite of motion. I strive for balance while trying not to forget about movement.
And if anything life is wonderful because it gives me this opportunity.

"One must imagine Sisyphus happy"

Good quote.

I notice that Sisyphus does not have a distraction.

Sisyphus teaches the higher fidelity that negates the gods and raises rocks. He too concludes that all is well. This universe now without a master seems to him neither sterile nor fertile. Each atom of that stone, each mineral flake of this mountain full of night, alone forms a world. The struggle itself to the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Sisyphus

phyllo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 1:49 pm

"One must imagine Sisyphus happy"

Good quote.

I notice that Sisyphus does not have a distraction.

Sisyphus teaches the higher fidelity that negates the gods and raises rocks. He too concludes that all is well. This universe now without a master seems to him neither sterile nor fertile. Each atom of that stone, each mineral flake of this mountain full of night, alone forms a world. The struggle itself to the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_Sisyphus

Good one.

I'm currently reading that philosophy with much interest.

Embracing the absurdity is living in bliss.