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Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:43 am

Agent Smith wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:19 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 2:38 am

You're welcome. I'm glad if I did something to help, enough to warrant your "thanks". I have no idea what it could have been but just make sure you do the right thing in return for whatever "help" I gave. I don't like "helping" if it leads to any kind of evil. Keep it good and keep it in the best interest of all. That's all I ask for in return.

No problemo. I must've misread you, a regular feature in my life. How are things at yer end? I see a drastic improvement, a more upbeat, assertive, confident you compared to what we were presented with in an older thread. Allah rahim, eh? One moment you're down in the dumps and another moment you're on cloud 9. Bipolar? Me too!

Wow! Nice to meet a fellow human being struggling with the life of the mind! I didn't know that about you. Yes. I feel a bit energized lately. It's kind of bizarre but I've begun to appreciate Immanuel Kant's famous statement concerning being awakened from his "dogmatic slumber". It's good to feel like one is doing something worth doing. That's really difficult sometimes to find in today's society driven by the "bottom line" and sometimes even "banal evil". I truly hope you are able to find a similar way to be of service to humanity and not just to our own pockets. It's a really good feeling to act out of care for others, although, I can only engage in it so long as I perceive it is truly needed by all. Otherwise, I don't want to risk doing harm through vain activity trying to give people "help" they neither want nor need. It's a real problem for me sometimes.

Glad you're back in the game mon ami. Good luck!

Agent Smith wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:48 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:43 am

Agent Smith wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:19 am

No problemo. I must've misread you, a regular feature in my life. How are things at yer end? I see a drastic improvement, a more upbeat, assertive, confident you compared to what we were presented with in an older thread. Allah rahim, eh? One moment you're down in the dumps and another moment you're on cloud 9. Bipolar? Me too!

Wow! Nice to meet a fellow human being struggling with the life of the mind! I didn't know that about you. Yes. I feel a bit energized lately. It's kind of bizarre but I've begun to appreciate Immanuel Kant's famous statement concerning being awakened from his "dogmatic slumber". It's good to feel like one is doing something worth doing. That's really difficult sometimes to find in today's society driven by the "bottom line" and sometimes even "banal evil". I truly hope you are able to find a similar way to be of service to humanity and not just to our own pockets. It's a really good feeling to act out of care for others, although, I can only engage in it so long as I perceive it is truly needed by all. Otherwise, I don't want to risk doing harm through vain activity trying to give people "help" they neither want nor need. It's a real problem for me sometimes.

Glad you're back in the game mon ami. Good luck!

Whatever happens, will happen. If I do the right thing, then great. If I don't then it's just as well if I crash and burn. However, the only "games" I play are ones I get on my computer from Steam. Life itself is not a "game" when things get serious and we're all facing problems of enormous global severity. It's also not a "game" when someone is acting out malicious tendencies on the Internet. Then it's a delicate time to try to be there for them to try to get them to safer waters as best as possible if one is in a suitable position to identify such a need and get that person to adequate safety.

Faking feelings at Work (and how this is damaging)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markmurphy ... miserable/

Then there's this distinction between surface actors - they fake emotions just to hide themselves or protect themselves - and deep actors - those who fake it for so-called prosocial reasons. The former suffer immensely, the latter benefit from faking.
https://www.spring.org.uk/2023/01/faking-emotions.php

But all the articles and research I find seem to assume that faking is conscious. But actually we are culturally brought up to fake it to the extent that we don't notice a lot of it. Further we convert emotions to ones we are comfortable with all the time.

And then as a side issue: it is really easy to fake emotions online.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:58 am

Agent Smith wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:48 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:43 am

Wow! Nice to meet a fellow human being struggling with the life of the mind! I didn't know that about you. Yes. I feel a bit energized lately. It's kind of bizarre but I've begun to appreciate Immanuel Kant's famous statement concerning being awakened from his "dogmatic slumber". It's good to feel like one is doing something worth doing. That's really difficult sometimes to find in today's society driven by the "bottom line" and sometimes even "banal evil". I truly hope you are able to find a similar way to be of service to humanity and not just to our own pockets. It's a really good feeling to act out of care for others, although, I can only engage in it so long as I perceive it is truly needed by all. Otherwise, I don't want to risk doing harm through vain activity trying to give people "help" they neither want nor need. It's a real problem for me sometimes.

Glad you're back in the game mon ami. Good luck!

Whatever happens, will happen. If I do the right thing, then great. If I don't then it's just as well if I crash and burn. However, the only "games" I play are ones I get on my computer from Steam. Life itself is not a "game" when things get serious and we're all facing problems of enormous global severity. It's also not a "game" when someone is acting out malicious tendencies on the Internet. Then it's a delicate time to try to be there for them to try to get them to safer waters as best as possible if one is in a suitable position to identify such a need and get that person to adequate safety.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:13 am Faking feelings at Work (and how this is damaging)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markmurphy ... miserable/

Then there's this distinction between surface actors - they fake emotions just to hide themselves or protect themselves - and deep actors - those who fake it for so-called prosocial reasons. The former suffer immensely, the latter benefit from faking.
https://www.spring.org.uk/2023/01/faking-emotions.php

But all the articles and research I find seem to assume that faking is conscious. But actually we are culturally brought up to fake it to the extent that we don't notice a lot of it. Further we convert emotions to ones we are comfortable with all the time.

And then as a side issue: it is really easy to fake emotions online.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. If you want the executive summary to save you from a lot of possibly unnecessary research that may or may not be important to your line of work or the position you occupy in life, and where you'll probably encounter as many people posting apologetics for the faking of emotions as there are pointing to the problem with it, all of which will probably leave you scratching your head as much as we all are now, then see my very first post in this thread. However, if you want to invest a lot of time in it, then by all means do so. My advice is don't bother. But I'm just a "lunatic" so what do I know? Feel free to get back to me after you become an "expert" on it and let me know how my initial assessment was wrong.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:37 am Feel free to get back to me after you become an "expert" on it and let me know how my initial assessment was wrong.

Instead of just ignoring me you chose to communicate like this for some reason. It's condescending and dismissive. I read your first post and responded to it a while ago. I don't know why you assume I will simply let you know you are wrong.

You made some assumptions about why I posted links and what I am doing, also:

Anyway, here I wasn't posting directly to you. How about just ignoring me, since you seem to look down on me and I'll stop responding to your posts, regardless. Saves mereading the poor mindreading and condescension and that's spare you having to refer me to posts I already read and responded to.

Take care.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 6:59 am Anyway, here I wasn't posting directly to you. How about just ignoring me.

Sounds good. Was trying to make your life a little easier. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:43 am It's good to feel like one is doing something worth doing. That's really difficult sometimes to find in today's society driven by the "bottom line" and sometimes even "banal evil".

'Evil' doesn't actuallly exist, the idea that there is ''evil'' is simply a human fictional concept, within the artificial dream of separation, in this conception. The concept human 'evil' is a supposition upon an already perfect, wholesome, impersonal, baseless reality that never comes and goes, and never changes, and never has any intention or need or condition to be anything other than what is always totally without condition,limit or restriction, in which everything spontaneously arises, because there is only everything, all at once, one without a second. Even the idea of ''free will'' is a human man-made concept that does not exist out-there.

There is no one or thing doing anything here on earth, and so any claim to be the doer, is false, it's just the faking of an action, inaction, or intention.... but the fakery is fake, simply because no one or thing does anything here, everything is being done, all at once. There's simply no room for two here. Nothing can be faked, because nothing is doing, doing is simply done, and no doer thereof.

Even if it did seem, apparently, as though there was a ''someone'' who was faking their feelings, and thoughts, and even their identity..there is no one, or thing doing this....and that's the message here.

But this is just nondual speak, it's difficult for the mind that is dual by it's very nature, to comprehend.

The End of Evil?
Neuroscientists suggest there is no such thing. Are they right?
Autonomous, conscious decision-making itself may well be an illusion. And thus intentional evil is impossible.
https://slate.com/technology/2011/09/do ... ay-no.html

The idea of ''free will' is the biggest fakery man has ever concocted.

Simply because no one who knows they are alive ever used the idea of ''free will'' to will themself alive, the idea is simply another illusion.