Belinda wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:19 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:18 am
Belinda wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:09 am
What causes anyone to be violent is fear of loss including loss of liberty, or fear of pain. This goes for , not only Muslims, but everyone, except those people who manage to be faithful pacifists.
The cause, broadly, of World War Two was fear of loss of liberty to fascism. So it was a just war.
The cause of islamism is fanatical attachment to an ideology. This ideology is comparable to fascism.
In Western mass media it (islamist)tends to refer to groups whose aim is to establish a sharia-based Islamic state, often with implication of violent tactics and human rights violations, and has acquired connotations of political extremism. In the Muslim world, the term has positive connotations among its proponents.Wikipedia
Note my points 6-9, with the
added:
- 6. A Muslim is a believer who has entered into a spiritual contract to adhere to Allah's commands with a promise of eternal life in heaven [some say with 72 virgins] or otherwise non-compliance the contractee will end up in Hell.
7. Allah commands are contained within the Quran, the core holy texts of Islam that is comprised of 6236 verses.
8. More than 3400 or 55% of the 6236 verses are laden with evil elements [evil laden] and to the extreme of Allah exhorting believers to kill non-believers [e.g. Quran 5:33 and other warring and killing verses]. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_in_the_Quran
9. The reason why SOME Muslims are violent is because 20% of them are evil prone [5] and they are contracted [6] has to comply the command of Allah [7] but as evil prone, they are more inclined to execute the evil laden commands [8] within the Quran to ensure of the promise of eternal life in heaven with 72 virgins [6]
Generally all those who go to war, their motives are reducible to an inherent existential crisis manifested in various reasons like loss of property, rights, land, pains, greed, etc.
As evident such motives to war whether of unilateral aggression or just-war, are resolvable in time or are limited. There is no threat of hell or an inability to go to heaven with eternal life.
However, in the case of Islam it is exceptionally different where the existential crisis manifested in terms of the avoidance of hell and a promise of eternal life bonded within a contract that one cannot get out easily.
There are verses of just-war but what is more worrying is, there are other verses where all Muslims by contract and by the commands of Allah has to go to war against non-Muslims or else they will go to hell and not to heaven.
The majority of Muslims are not aware of such verses that Allah had exhorted them to fight and kill non-Muslims thus they remained ignorant of it.
But the problem is re point 9, there is a pool of 20% of 300 million Muslims who are evil prone and would readily comply with Allah commands to kill non-Muslims in compliance with the contract they had 'signed' with Allah.
It is possible 1% of Muslim will be triggered to adhere to the contract strictly and that is 15 millions

and this is so evident why SOME Muslims are so violent.
In this specific case, why SOME Muslims [potentially 15-300 millions] are so violent is because they are obligated to kill non-Muslims in compliance with the contractual terms they have entered with Allah in exchange for a promise of eternal life in heaven and non-compliance means hell for them. To avoid hell and gain divine rewards, SOME Muslims will adhere to Allah's command to kill non-Muslims.
What is more worrying is when more and more Muslims are made aware of the obligated terms of violence against non-Muslims they have to comply with in accordance to the contract they have signed with Allah.
Other theistic religions, Christianity and Judaism , before the scientific enlightenment were as political as Islam. Islam never had the scientific enlightenment and is late in catching up. Most Muslims have advanced beyond the Koran except in matters of ritual and ordinary morality.
I did not mention about any political elements in the above.
Most religions were involved in politics in the past, even the very pacifist Buddhism, e.g. in Tibet and elsewhere. Islam is the only religion at present that is directly involved in politics.
Politics is not the significant point here.
What is significant is the intrinsic
overriding evil elements that is present ONLY in Islam [as represented in the Quran] and not in other major religions.
Since politics is by default dirty, when Islam is combined with politics as it has been, that would be a doubly evil - thus the evident evil and violent acts committed to date.
The Quran contains the contractual terms of the
contract [covenant] that each Muslim signed with Allah. The elements within the Quran are laden with evil elements that a Muslim must comply with as an obligation as the contractee.
There is no way for any Muslim to advance beyond the Quran - the core of Islam.
What the majority of Muslims -who are being more human - do is they are like "
ostriches" pretending the evil elements are not there, avoid it or explain it away, or they are ignorant of the evil commands they have to comply to gain merit to heaven and to avoid hell.
The problem is Muslims cannot be 'ostriches' to the evil inherent in the Quran all the time. At some time, some of these ostrich-Muslims will be triggered to face the reality of their true obligation of what Islam expect from them. This is why we read very often of the facts of many supposedly 'goody-two-shoes' who suddenly appeared on TV and in the media as the most wanted and terrible terrorists - to the shock of their family, relatives and friend.
Those Muslims [large numbers] who are fully aware of their proper obligations as a Muslim, i.e. to comply fully with Allah's command in the Quran, they will strive to comply with Allah's command, e.g. do what it take to implement Sharia Law, i.e. literally Allah's Laws where in compliance of them will ensure them of their place in heaven with eternal life and avoiding hell.
In any situation and opportunity the very compliant Muslims will kill and commit 'Quran approved' evil acts against non-Muslims to look good in the eyes of Allah thus gain additional merits as promised in the Quran.
The psychology is theism is a very strong desperate inherent existential impulse, stronger than the sex or hunger drive and even earthly death.
To view in a deeper perspective, it is not the direct fault of these Muslims who committed evil and violent acts, they have no choice because they are inherently desperate to get to heaven with eternal life just like the Christians and others. The difference is the Christian's contract [covenant] with God do not include compliance with any evil and violent terms but an overriding maxim to love even one's enemies.