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Re: Are illusions real?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:41 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:29 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:46 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:40 pm

Can you show what is seeing the illusion?

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Yes, you are. Check your mirror.

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²
Why would the seer (you) need a mirror to show it is you ?

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All right then. You don't need the mirror to establish you are real.

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²

Re: Are illusions real?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:49 pm
by Dontaskme
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:41 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:29 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:46 pm

Yes, you are. Check your mirror.

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²
Why would the seer (you) need a mirror to show it is you ?

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All right then. You don't need the mirror to establish you are real.

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²
Nothing is real.

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Re: Are illusions real?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:19 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:49 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:41 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:29 pm

Why would the seer (you) need a mirror to show it is you ?

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All right then. You don't need the mirror to establish you are real.

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²
Nothing is real.

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Who is saying nothing is real?

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²

Re: Are illusions real?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:25 pm
by Dontaskme
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:19 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:49 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:41 pm

All right then. You don't need the mirror to establish you are real.

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²
Nothing is real.

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Who is saying nothing is real?

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²
The mirror.

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Re: Are illusions real?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:33 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:25 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:19 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:49 pm

Nothing is real.

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Who is saying nothing is real?

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²
The mirror.

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Is dontaskme saying she isn't real?

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²

Re: Are illusions real?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:37 pm
by Dontaskme
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:33 pm
Is dontaskme saying she isn't real?
Dam is a concept known, that which is known cannot know.

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Re: Are illusions real?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:43 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:37 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:33 pm
Is dontaskme saying she isn't real?
Dam is a concept known, that which is known cannot know.

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Who started knowing dam?

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²

Re: Are illusions real?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:48 pm
by Dontaskme
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:43 pm
Who started knowing dam?
No knower ever started.

Who knows? What is known? There is no certainty, except that there is knowing.

You can be aware of the knowing but not of a knower. Knowing is a reflection of your true nature which is awareness, the mirror.

You cannot know the mirror because you are it.

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Re: Are illusions real?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:52 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:48 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:43 pm
Who started knowing dam?
No knower ever started.

Who knows? What is known? There is no certainty, except that there is knowing.

You can be aware of the knowing but not of a knower. Knowing is a reflection of your true nature which is awareness, the mirror.

You cannot know the mirror because you are it.

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What you're saying now is babble and nonsense. But every time you talk, you're confirming you're real.

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²

Re: Are illusions real?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:11 pm
by Dontaskme
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:52 pm
What you're saying now is babble and nonsense. But every time you talk, you're confirming you're real.

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²
That's right, so it seems.

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Re: Are illusions real?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:18 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:11 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:52 pm
What you're saying now is babble and nonsense. But every time you talk, you're confirming you're real.

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²
That's right, so it seems.

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So it is so keep on trying to deny.

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²

Re: Are illusions real?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:47 pm
by Dontaskme
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:18 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:11 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:52 pm
What you're saying now is babble and nonsense. But every time you talk, you're confirming you're real.

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²
That's right, so it seems.

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So it is so keep on trying to deny.

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²
If I'm confirming I'm real, who is the other one that can deny...is there two of me?

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Re: Are illusions real?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:48 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:47 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:18 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:11 pm

That's right, so it seems.

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So it is so keep on trying to deny.

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²
If I'm confirming I'm real, who is the other one that can deny...is there two of me?

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Twins

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²

Re: Are illusions real?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:56 pm
by Dontaskme
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:48 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:47 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:18 pm

So it is so keep on trying to deny.

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²
If I'm confirming I'm real, who is the other one that can deny...is there two of me?

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Twins

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²
My twin is not me.

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Re: Are illusions real?

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:29 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:56 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:48 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:47 pm

If I'm confirming I'm real, who is the other one that can deny...is there two of me?

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Twins

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²
My twin is not me.

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Ofc. One is confirming while the other is denying which makes you real. :lol:

πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²PhilXπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²