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Re: Are illusions real?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:41 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Dontaskme wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 3:29 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 12:46 pm
Dontaskme wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 12:40 pm
Can you show what is seeing the illusion?
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Yes, you are. Check your mirror.

PhilX
Why would the seer (you) need a mirror to show it is you ?
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All right then. You don't need the mirror to establish you are real.

PhilX

Re: Are illusions real?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:49 pm
by Dontaskme
Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 3:41 pm
Dontaskme wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 3:29 pm
Why would the seer (you) need a mirror to show it is you ?
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All right then. You don't need the mirror to establish you are real.

PhilX
Nothing is real.
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Re: Are illusions real?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:19 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Dontaskme wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 3:49 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 3:41 pm
Dontaskme wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 3:29 pm
Why would the seer (you) need a mirror to show it is you ?
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All right then. You don't need the mirror to establish you are real.

PhilX
Nothing is real.
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Who is saying nothing is real?

PhilX

Re: Are illusions real?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:25 pm
by Dontaskme
Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 4:19 pm
Dontaskme wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 3:49 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 3:41 pm
All right then. You don't need the mirror to establish you are real.

PhilX
Nothing is real.
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Who is saying nothing is real?

PhilX
The mirror.
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Re: Are illusions real?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:33 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Is dontaskme saying she isn't real?

PhilX

Re: Are illusions real?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:37 pm
by Dontaskme
Dam is a concept known, that which is known cannot know.
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Re: Are illusions real?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:43 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Dontaskme wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 4:37 pm
Dam is a concept known, that which is known cannot know.
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Who started knowing dam?

PhilX

Re: Are illusions real?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:48 pm
by Dontaskme
No knower ever started.
Who knows? What is known? There is no certainty, except that there is knowing.
You can be aware of the knowing but not of a knower. Knowing is a reflection of your true nature which is awareness, the mirror.
You cannot know the mirror because you are it.
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Re: Are illusions real?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:52 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Dontaskme wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 4:48 pm
No knower ever started.
Who knows? What is known? There is no certainty, except that there is knowing.
You can be aware of the knowing but not of a knower. Knowing is a reflection of your true nature which is awareness, the mirror.
You cannot know the mirror because you are it.
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What you're saying now is babble and nonsense. But every time you talk, you're confirming you're real.

PhilX

Re: Are illusions real?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:11 pm
by Dontaskme
Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 4:52 pm
What you're saying now is babble and nonsense. But every time you talk, you're confirming you're real.

PhilX
That's right, so it seems.
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Re: Are illusions real?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:18 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Dontaskme wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 5:11 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 4:52 pm
What you're saying now is babble and nonsense. But every time you talk, you're confirming you're real.

PhilX
That's right, so it seems.
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So it is so keep on trying to deny.

PhilX

Re: Are illusions real?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:47 pm
by Dontaskme
Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 5:18 pm
Dontaskme wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 5:11 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 4:52 pm
What you're saying now is babble and nonsense. But every time you talk, you're confirming you're real.

PhilX
That's right, so it seems.
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So it is so keep on trying to deny.

PhilX
If I'm confirming I'm real, who is the other one that can deny...is there two of me?
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Re: Are illusions real?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:48 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Dontaskme wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 5:47 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 5:18 pm
Dontaskme wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 5:11 pm
That's right, so it seems.
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So it is so keep on trying to deny.

PhilX
If I'm confirming I'm real, who is the other one that can deny...is there two of me?
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Twins

PhilX

Re: Are illusions real?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:56 pm
by Dontaskme
Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 5:48 pm
Dontaskme wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 5:47 pm
If I'm confirming I'm real, who is the other one that can deny...is there two of me?
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Twins

PhilX
My twin is not me.
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Re: Are illusions real?
Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:29 pm
by Philosophy Explorer
Dontaskme wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 5:56 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 5:48 pm
Dontaskme wrote: βTue Jul 31, 2018 5:47 pm
If I'm confirming I'm real, who is the other one that can deny...is there two of me?
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Twins

PhilX
My twin is not me.
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Ofc. One is confirming while the other is denying which makes you real.

PhilX
