Are illusions real?

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Re: Are illusions real?

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:29 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:46 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:40 pm

Can you show what is seeing the illusion?

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Yes, you are. Check your mirror.

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Why would the seer (you) need a mirror to show it is you ?

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All right then. You don't need the mirror to establish you are real.

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Re: Are illusions real?

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Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:41 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:29 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:46 pm

Yes, you are. Check your mirror.

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Why would the seer (you) need a mirror to show it is you ?

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All right then. You don't need the mirror to establish you are real.

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Nothing is real.

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Re: Are illusions real?

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:49 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:41 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:29 pm

Why would the seer (you) need a mirror to show it is you ?

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All right then. You don't need the mirror to establish you are real.

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Nothing is real.

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Who is saying nothing is real?

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Re: Are illusions real?

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Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:19 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:49 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:41 pm

All right then. You don't need the mirror to establish you are real.

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Nothing is real.

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Who is saying nothing is real?

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The mirror.

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Re: Are illusions real?

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:25 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:19 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:49 pm

Nothing is real.

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Who is saying nothing is real?

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The mirror.

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Is dontaskme saying she isn't real?

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Re: Are illusions real?

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Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:33 pm
Is dontaskme saying she isn't real?
Dam is a concept known, that which is known cannot know.

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Re: Are illusions real?

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:37 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:33 pm
Is dontaskme saying she isn't real?
Dam is a concept known, that which is known cannot know.

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Who started knowing dam?

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Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:43 pm
Who started knowing dam?
No knower ever started.

Who knows? What is known? There is no certainty, except that there is knowing.

You can be aware of the knowing but not of a knower. Knowing is a reflection of your true nature which is awareness, the mirror.

You cannot know the mirror because you are it.

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Re: Are illusions real?

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:48 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:43 pm
Who started knowing dam?
No knower ever started.

Who knows? What is known? There is no certainty, except that there is knowing.

You can be aware of the knowing but not of a knower. Knowing is a reflection of your true nature which is awareness, the mirror.

You cannot know the mirror because you are it.

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What you're saying now is babble and nonsense. But every time you talk, you're confirming you're real.

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Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:52 pm
What you're saying now is babble and nonsense. But every time you talk, you're confirming you're real.

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That's right, so it seems.

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Re: Are illusions real?

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:11 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:52 pm
What you're saying now is babble and nonsense. But every time you talk, you're confirming you're real.

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That's right, so it seems.

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So it is so keep on trying to deny.

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Re: Are illusions real?

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Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:18 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:11 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:52 pm
What you're saying now is babble and nonsense. But every time you talk, you're confirming you're real.

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That's right, so it seems.

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So it is so keep on trying to deny.

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If I'm confirming I'm real, who is the other one that can deny...is there two of me?

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:47 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:18 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:11 pm

That's right, so it seems.

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So it is so keep on trying to deny.

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If I'm confirming I'm real, who is the other one that can deny...is there two of me?

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Twins

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Re: Are illusions real?

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Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:48 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:47 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:18 pm

So it is so keep on trying to deny.

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If I'm confirming I'm real, who is the other one that can deny...is there two of me?

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Twins

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My twin is not me.

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Re: Are illusions real?

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Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:56 pm
Philosophy Explorer wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:48 pm
Dontaskme wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:47 pm

If I'm confirming I'm real, who is the other one that can deny...is there two of me?

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Twins

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My twin is not me.

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Ofc. One is confirming while the other is denying which makes you real. :lol:

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