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Philosophy Explorer wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

duszek wrote:In a film with Inspector Barnaby the latter was enthusiastic about rock and roll music, he tried to play the guitar again, he did not suspect a rock and roll musician of a murder (but at the end he finally realized that it was exactly him who did it).

I am puzzled by this enthusiasm, they are loud, insulting, unleashed etc. but they are fascinating to a lot of us because they are free like small children ?

Any thoughts ?

Are you talking about rock music in general, or 'rock and roll'? Rock music encompasses an extremely broad and vague area.

Duszek's OP makes it plain that it's rock and roll he/she is talking about. What would make you think it's otherwise?

PhilX

I don't think he's only referring to 50s 'rock and roll'. I saw that episode of Midsomer Murders and it wasn't about a rock and roll group.

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

duszek wrote:Jazz music appeals to me, not all of it, but a lot of it.

Could it be that a person must have some mental defect if rock and roll does not appeal to them ?

Feel free to insult me in a rock and roll fashion, perhaps that will give me a clue what the secret of r.a.r. is.

Maybe it would help if you named the film with "Barnaby: whoever the fuck he is?

I think he means an episode of Midsomer Murders.

Does that have anything to do with Rock and Roll?

I've never watched Midsommer Murders, but is seems to me that long running series ought to have long ago run out of potential victims, being set as it is in a small English village.

Hobbes' Choice wrote: I've never watched Midsommer Murders, but is seems to me that long running series ought to have long ago run out of potential victims, being set as it is in a small English village.

Who do you think you're kidding Mr. Hobbes. I suppose you'd like us to think you were always watching a documentary on BBC 2 when Midsommer Murders was on.

Harbal wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote: I've never watched Midsommer Murders, but is seems to me that long running series ought to have long ago run out of potential victims, being set as it is in a small English village.

Who do you think you're kidding Mr. Hobbes. I suppose you'd like us to think you were always watching a documentary on BBC 2 when Midsommer Murders was on.

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Hobbes' Choice wrote: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=20600

I've already told you I don't get involved with polls.

Let's complain about that newfangled cotton gin next.

Terrapin Station wrote:Let's complain about that newfangled cotton gin next.

I never drink the stuff.

Terrapin Station wrote:Let's complain about that newfangled cotton gin next.

It's Compton's mule that has my back up.

duszek wrote:Jazz music appeals to me.

A long time ago, in the Old Town section of Chicago, I was walking past the Plugged Nickel bar on a late Sunday evening one winter. John Coltrane's group was playing there, and I stopped in for a beer or two. They had just finished a set, and the next one started at 10pm. For the first number, Coltrane blew his alto sax for an hour and a half straight, and then left the bandstand and sat alone in a stupor and drenched with sweat at a small table. The drummer, base fiddle and piano each took a ten minute solo. Coltrane then got back up on the bandstand and continued playing. It was midnight and they hadn't finished their first number. Unbelievably, I left the bar since I had to get up early for work.

Hobbes' Choice wrote:
It's Compton's mule that has my back up.

Don't you mean Crompton's mule, you ass.

bobevenson wrote: A long time ago, in the Old Town section of Chicago, I was walking past the Plugged Nickel bar on a late Sunday evening one winter. John Coltrane's group was playing there, and I stopped in for a beer or two. They had just finished a set, and the next one started at 10pm. For the first number, Coltrane blew his alto sax for an hour and a half straight, and then left the bandstand and sat alone in a stupor and drenched with sweat at a small table. The drummer, base fiddle and piano each took a ten minute solo. Coltrane then got back up on the bandstand and continued playing. It was midnight and they hadn't finished their first number. Unbelievably, I left the bar since I had to get up early for work.

A couple more paragraphs and you could pass that off as a short story, bob. Well done.

Harbal wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:
It's Compton's mule that has my back up.

Don't you mean Crompton's mule, you ass.

Ass, mule, donkey. They're all a fitting description of Hog Wild.

PhilX

Hobbes' Choice wrote:

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:
Maybe it would help if you named the film with "Barnaby: whoever the fuck he is?

I think he means an episode of Midsomer Murders.

Does that have anything to do with Rock and Roll?

I've never watched Midsommer Murders, but is seems to me that long running series ought to have long ago run out of potential victims, being set as it is in a small English village.

I know And you see the same actors turning up over and over again in different parts.

Harbal wrote:

Hobbes' Choice wrote:
It's Compton's mule that has my back up.

Don't you mean Crompton's mule, you ass.

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duszek wrote:In a film with Inspector Barnaby the latter was enthusiastic about rock and roll music, he tried to play the guitar again, he did not suspect a rock and roll musician of a murder (but at the end he finally realized that it was exactly him who did it).

I am puzzled by this enthusiasm, they are loud, insulting, unleashed etc. but they are fascinating to a lot of us because they are free like small children ?

Any thoughts ?

We basically have to start with the slave songs and gospel to see the genesis of rock, where the blues genre emerged as a newly emancipated expression of black Americans. Since it's genesis, rock has been characterised by oppressed voices demanding audience. It's loud because it demands to be heard, insulting because it disrupts convention, and unleashed because it is a quest for personal and social freedom. It is fascinating because it has arguably been the most power force of personal transformation and cultural (r)evolution since its inception.

In terms of "us", I consider myself one of "them".