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No, it's a way of accessing one's unconscious. Only the loon thinks it a message from a 'God'.

Every thing that happens in life is an hallucination in and of the mind. In reality nothing is actually happening and is why when it does appear to happen it is an hallucination appearing to itself only.

bobevenson wrote:The reason I ask is that "The Ouzo Prophecy" became a spiritual document because of a single paragraph automatically written, and the entire Ouzo phenomenon has been directed by a series of hallucinations and other mystical events.

There's medication for that. It's called anti-psychotics.

Life is a psychotic experience for no one.

One doesn't have to be crazy to be in sane.

Dontaskme wrote:Every thing that happens in life is an hallucination in and of the mind. In reality nothing is actually happening and is why when it does appear to happen it is an hallucination appearing to itself only.

Mind those buses when crossing the road.

Arising_uk wrote:No, it's a way of accessing one's unconscious.

I think you mean "subconscious," but then, again, I guess you're not a psychologist, huh?

Arising_uk wrote:

Dontaskme wrote:Every thing that happens in life is an hallucination in and of the mind. In reality nothing is actually happening and is why when it does appear to happen it is an hallucination appearing to itself only.

Mind those buses when crossing the road.

So you still believe that is your body lying under the bus. So you think that is your body lying in the casket?

You still don't get it do you?

vegetariantaxidermy wrote:

bobevenson wrote:The reason I ask is that "The Ouzo Prophecy" became a spiritual document because of a single paragraph automatically written, and the entire Ouzo phenomenon has been directed by a series of hallucinations and other mystical events.

There's medication for that. It's called anti-psychotics.

Why do you rush to judgment instead of investigating my claims?

Dontaskme wrote:So you still believe that is your body lying under the bus. ...

You ever been run over?

So you think that is your body lying in the casket?

If that was my body then I'm not thinking at all. Whose body would it have been?

You still don't get it do you?

Sure, but who is this 'you' you are talking to and what is this 'it' I'm supposed to be getting?

Arising_uk wrote:You ever been run over?
If that was my body then I'm not thinking at all. Whose body would it have been?
Sure, but who is this 'you' you are talking to and what is this 'it' I'm supposed to be getting?

You still don't get it. It gets you...Who told you that is your body?

You think you are your body, but have you seen the thinker, does the body think?

Does your arm think?

Do brains think?

The human brain is a biological computer processor - do computers think?

Brains and neurons have no causal powers. They cause none of our perceptual experiences, and none of our behaviour..do your own research.

There is no person inside your body, the person is a phantom thought appearing as a you inside a body...find that thought, can you look at that thought? there is just life happening to no one.



Hmm...believe what you want dude, it'll be your hallucination.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/hallucination

Dontaskme wrote:You still don't get it. It gets you...Who told you that is your body?

Being this body. You being someone else's body?

You think you are your body, but have you seen the thinker, does the body think?

I know I am this body, in the mirror, yes.

Does your arm think?

When in pain yes.

Do brains think?

No, brains with bodies do.

The human brain is a biological computer processor - do computers think?

Depends which kind of computer you are talking about and which kind of thinking.

Brains and neurons have no causal powers. They cause none of our perceptual experiences, and none of our behaviour..do your own research.

Being in an external environment is what causes bodys to cause the perceptions we have.

There is no person inside your body, the person is a phantom thought appearing as a you inside a body...find that thought, can you look at that thought? there is just life happening to no one.

I know there is no homunculus as the body is your personhood. A person is those other bodies. 'Life' is a reification, living is what having a body in an external environment does.

Hmm...believe what you want dude, it'll be your hallucination.

Who you talking to?

Arising_uk wrote:I know I am this body, in the mirror, yes.

The body in the mirror is the known. The known body cannot see the knower.


The body is known but never seen. Can the knower/ seer of the body been seen by the body?

I don't think it's a hallucination or the the product of a delusional mind, but I am rather suspect. I think it happens when the usual barriers between the conscious and unconscious minds break down. But the unconscious mind can be divided between the subconscious and superconscious. The subconscious and superconscious can intermingle in the conscious mind and manifest as automatic writing, and this might explain why it's usually a mixed bag of nonsense and profundity.

Reflex wrote:...this might explain why it's usually a mixed bag of nonsense and profundity.

In my case, it was profound, and had never entered my conscious mind earlier in any way, shape or form.

bobevenson wrote:In my case, it was profound, and had never entered my conscious mind earlier in any way, shape or form.

So why did you decide to practice automatic writing then? As I find it very hard to believe that someone interested in Gematria would not also follow other 'mystical' practices.