What about sick children without the means to pay their own medical bills? Do you not regard risk-sharing as part of the social contract?henry quirk wrote: I got a significant problem with paying somebody else's bills.
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Label me a bully and ogre, but yeah, I have a problem with paying for them too.
Let the parents or caregivers of such children go, hat in hand, to a charitable organization...there are several reputable, national, charities specializing in such things.
Yes, I know, not a perfect solution, by a long shot, but it's sumthin'.
Also: my view of the 'social contract' is, I won't steal from you, hurt you, kill you as long as you refrain from doing those things to me.
Nuthin' in there about taking care of you (or you, me) against my (or your) will.
Compassion, by definition, is voluntary. Making me pay for another, when I'd rather do otherwise (like takin' care of my own kid) is a kind of slavery.
So, have at me, Leo...tell me how awful or stupid or misguided I am.
Better yet: just call me a god damned American.
Heard it all before.
Let the parents or caregivers of such children go, hat in hand, to a charitable organization...there are several reputable, national, charities specializing in such things.
Yes, I know, not a perfect solution, by a long shot, but it's sumthin'.
Also: my view of the 'social contract' is, I won't steal from you, hurt you, kill you as long as you refrain from doing those things to me.
Nuthin' in there about taking care of you (or you, me) against my (or your) will.
Compassion, by definition, is voluntary. Making me pay for another, when I'd rather do otherwise (like takin' care of my own kid) is a kind of slavery.
So, have at me, Leo...tell me how awful or stupid or misguided I am.
Better yet: just call me a god damned American.
Heard it all before.
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No. It's not your fault because you don't know any better. You live in a country where people don't give a fuck about each other.henry quirk wrote:So, have at me, Leo...tell me how awful or stupid or misguided I am.
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I refer you to one of your compatriots, Jason Day, to collect the money since America is the only country where he can earn an extra $10 million dollars in the next couple of weeks just for hitting a golf ball around, something of a change from his earlier days in Australia where he used to try to stuff as much as possible into a bag to buy for a price of $5.Obvious Leo wrote:A cautionary note of advice from a well-meaning supporter, mate. Try to avoid economic questions where possible and just stick to the simple stuff which your target audience will understand. You will be receiving my invoice for this latter consultancy in due course and I'd advise you to attend to it without delay. Even downunder we have ugly men with more tattoos than teeth who are in great demand for the collection of such remittances.bobevenson wrote: That's one major difference between the AEP and every other political party on Earth.
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Do you think he became a golfer in America, Bob? Not so, my friend. Jason Day became a golfer in Australia and only goes to your country to get your money. Aussies are not stupid.
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No, Aussies are stupid because their brains are downunder, and so is their political and economic system.Obvious Leo wrote:Do you think he became a golfer in America, Bob? Not so, my friend. Jason Day became a golfer in Australia and only goes to your country to get your money. Aussies are not stupid.
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You were trying to tell me that Australia was in Europe, Bob. Do you steal somebody's atlas?
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I wish I knew what the hell you were talking about, unless you're just trying to demonstrate that Australian brains are indeed down under!Obvious Leo wrote:You were trying to tell me that Australia was in Europe, Bob. Do you steal somebody's atlas?
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Not much chance of that, mate, since you haven't even got the faintest idea about what YOU'RE talking about.bobevenson wrote:I wish I knew what the hell you were talking about,
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Well, I guess that just proves you were giving another demonstration of Australian brains being down under. The only question to be answered now is, down under what, your butt?Obvious Leo wrote:Not much chance of that, mate, since you haven't even got the faintest idea about what YOU'RE talking about.bobevenson wrote:I wish I knew what the hell you were talking about,
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I think we may have temporally lost the focus & spirit of this thread.
May I remind all of us here of our pursuit of the highest degree of, civility and communication - ESPECIALLY within one of the threads that I have begun.
Thank you.
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I think we may have temporally lost the focus & spirit of this thread.
May I remind all of us here of our pursuit of the highest degree of, civility and communication - ESPECIALLY within one of the threads that I have begun.
Thank you.
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Thank you for clarifying that what's good for the goose is not good for the gander.Bill Wiltrack wrote:May I remind all of us here of our pursuit of the highest degree of, civility and communication - ESPECIALLY within one of the threads that I have begun.