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mickthinks wrote:

rantal wrote:

The Voice of Time wrote:A lot indicates he is. A better question would be whether there's any reason to believe the contrary.

No, I don't think that is a better question, I fear you miss the import of this question

I too miss the import of your question. What is your idea of a philosopher, that conflicts with "recognised as a philosopher"?

That is the purpose of this post to reveal that

all the best, rantal

Plato asserts that the philosopher is not only the sole possesor of knowledge, he is also the most virtuous of men.

Plato also offers a more intuitive explanation for why the philosopher is virtuous. Since all of him strives toward truth, his other desires are weakened. He has no real drive toward money, honor, pleasure, and so on.

reasonvemotion wrote:Plato asserts that the philosopher is not only the sole possesor of knowledge, he is also the most virtuous of men.

Plato also offers a more intuitive explanation for why the philosopher is virtuous. Since all of him strives toward truth, his other desires are weakened. He has no real drive toward money, honor, pleasure, and so on.

Despite being a poor philosopher, sometime he gets something right for all the wrong reasons
all the best, rantal

Still not hearing why you think she or he not a philosopher?

Arising_uk wrote:Still not hearing why you think she or he not a philosopher?

You want it on a plate?

all the best, rantal

rantal wrote:You want it on a plate?

Yes, we do. Why not serve it up on a plate? That would be better than this "What have I got in my pocket?" game you seem to be playing, dude.

What is your idea of a philosopher, and how does it conflict with being recognised as a philosopher?

mickthinks wrote:

rantal wrote:You want it on a plate?

Yes, we do. Why not serve it up on a plate? That would be better than this "What have I got in my pocket?" game you seem to be playing, dude.

What is your idea of a philosopher, and how does it conflict with being recognised as a philosopher?

This question is really about what it is to be a philosipher; if you thin that is just a matter of conceptual analysis and potificating on the same then the man in my original post is indeed one. I am a suprised and a little disapointed that no one here, with the exception perhaps of Bill, seems, like me, to consider that a philosipher must be more than that

all the best, rantal

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Well stated.



Thank you for articulating a difficult response in regard to the framework you were placed in.



Well done.





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rantal wrote:

mickthinks wrote:[What is your idea of a philosopher, and how does it conflict with being recognised as a philosopher?

This question is really about what it is to be a philosopher;

Not until you tell us what your issue is that you have with being recognised as a philosopher.

... if you think that is just a matter of conceptual analysis and potificating on the same then the man in my original post is indeed one.

What man? Did you not say you were not talking of a specific individual.

mickthinks wrote:

rantal wrote:

mickthinks wrote:[What is your idea of a philosopher, and how does it conflict with being recognised as a philosopher?

This question is really about what it is to be a philosopher;

Not until you tell us what your issue is that you have with being recognised as a philosopher.

... if you think that is just a matter of conceptual analysis and potificating on the same then the man in my original post is indeed one.

What man? Did you not say you were not talking of a specific individual.

Correct, I am not refereing to anyone in particular.

all the best, rantal

Are you saying that one has to live a simple existence, be in it but apart from the "world" to avoid the contamination success/recognition may bring and impair one's ability to be a seeker of truth.

..........and mine, I strive to keep it that way.

rantal wrote:You want it on a plate?

That'd be nice as then I could decide whether its worth eating.