Black People and Crime

[chaz wyman]

I said, Check out wikipedia and look up "Comparative psychology" and "Ethology." To find out where your ignorance lies!

Um...okay first of all...I don't give a fuck what wikipedia says...it's all a bunch of crap. I give very little credence to human psychology so what makes you think I would give a crap about "dog psychology."

It is almost impossible to know what makes humans behave the way they do and they can actually tell you! Why the hell do you think you can even begin to understand animal behavior? You need to get off the lala liberal merry-go-round cause your beginning to make us all look like a bunch of assholes.

Jesus....seriously? You are going to believe that bogus bunch of crap? I suppose you believe everything Freud said too!

The gullibility of mankind never ceases to amaze me.

Part of the problem is the assumption that humans "behave". A colloidal solution 'behaves; a bacteria in a nutrient medium behaves; and fish in a school behave. Humans are more sophisticated and tend to act with volition, consideration and thought.
If you look to think of people as animals then you can only talk about them as animals.

Behaviourism is a reductionist account. What this thread's title and Behaviouralism has in common is that Behaviouralism also takes tow or three casual factors and compares them. In this case Black skin and crime.
It then applies a causal assumption. In this case genetics, and then assumes that the connection is genetically caused, for this we have the metanarritive of race.

Well there is a big problem here. When a person decides to commit a crime he or she do not ask their genes for permission; there are very complex sets of reasons to do with the identification of crime, the commission of crime, and the media attention that some crimes get over others. The biggest crimes in our society are committed quite legally by CEOs, bankers and financiers. Is it because they are Jews, or Caucasians? Do we even consider what genetic factors urge Alan Greenspan, or Ben Bernanke to act like evil morons? Why is it we so easily accept blanket coverage of Young Black Males on our TV screens. Why do we not spend more time following bankers and sellers of derivatives around?
Genes simply do not explain the position of blacks in society. For that you need to look at myth, prejudice, otherness, and social construction of ethnic fallacies.

[Kayla]

A 5-year-old girl was wounded in the exchange as well. Why no outrage or calls for massive demonstrations?

was her shooter let go after claiming self-defense?

Generally, blacks, who constitute about 12% of the US population, commit violent crimes disproportionate to their representation in the general population. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/cr ... tbl43a.xls

you might want to take the arrest statistics and shove them up your worthless ass

blacks are far more likely to be arrested just for walking around or driving or standing around while black

i had the misfortune of being with a racially mixed group of teenagers going through wal mart and one of the group - a white boy - decided to shoplift

he was caught

the police then decided to detain him and all the black kids but not the white ones

the only thing that changed their mind is the whites' insistence that if their black friends were getting arrested it only stands to reason that they should be arrested too

seeing the doubled workload the cops decided to just arrest the shoplifter and let everyone else go

As a white person, I never enter North Minneapolis. And, given their propensity toward criminal conduct, I’m very wary whenever I encounter any black teenagers or adults, male or female.

have you considered psychotherapy for this phobia of yours

i was on a roadtrip with my mom a few years back and we stopped for lunch in the middle of nowhere

so we walk into this diner and everyone in there is black so we stood out a bit and some people did stare

and my mom was ready to turn around and run and i was like what? they have pizza. i would not mind some pizza right now

so we had lunch and the people were very nice and we talked with them about food and religion and race relations in america and we stuck around for a bit and had a great time and one family invited us to a prayer meeting in their house and good time was had by all

but they did have a regular thing with honkies walking in an bolting in terror and they were like wtf?

and no we were not mugged raped murdered or forcefed fried chicken

[chaz wyman]

A 5-year-old girl was wounded in the exchange as well. Why no outrage or calls for massive demonstrations?

was her shooter let go after claiming self-defense?

Generally, blacks, who constitute about 12% of the US population, commit violent crimes disproportionate to their representation in the general population. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/cr ... tbl43a.xls

you might want to take the arrest statistics and shove them up your worthless ass

blacks are far more likely to be arrested just for walking around or driving or standing around while black

i had the misfortune of being with a racially mixed group of teenagers going through wal mart and one of the group - a white boy - decided to shoplift

he was caught

the police then decided to detain him and all the black kids but not the white ones

the only thing that changed their mind is the whites' insistence that if their black friends were getting arrested it only stands to reason that they should be arrested too

seeing the doubled workload the cops decided to just arrest the shoplifter and let everyone else go

As a white person, I never enter North Minneapolis. And, given their propensity toward criminal conduct, I’m very wary whenever I encounter any black teenagers or adults, male or female.

have you considered psychotherapy for this phobia of yours

i was on a roadtrip with my mom a few years back and we stopped for lunch in the middle of nowhere

so we walk into this diner and everyone in there is black so we stood out a bit and some people did stare

and my mom was ready to turn around and run and i was like what? they have pizza. i would not mind some pizza right now

so we had lunch and the people were very nice and we talked with them about food and religion and race relations in america and we stuck around for a bit and had a great time and one family invited us to a prayer meeting in their house and good time was had by all

but they did have a regular thing with honkies walking in an bolting in terror and they were like wtf?

and no we were not mugged raped murdered or forcefed fried chicken

Good points well made.

It's Tbeiter and people like him that fuel racial hatred and keep blacks poor.

[Clinias]

Races do have inherent differences. This is an anathema to the Left and the multiculturalists hell bent on making their "One World Government".

What helps crime along is "Low Impulse Control". There has been a study with children of different races. When a candy bar is placed in front of them, they are told that if they wait five minutes, they would get a larger candybar. Many African children did not wait but picked up the bar for instant gratification.

Instant gratification is what crime is. We are to have "self-control" over our passions. Aristotle talks about this. This is why Aristotle said some people, i.e. races (the Greek word is "ethnicities") are natural slaves because they can not control their passions. That is low-impulse control. Aristotle said that people that cannot control their passions are natural slaves.

This is born out in the Bible where Ham is cursed. When he say Noah naked, he could not avert his eyes. Noah cursed his son. The Bible teaches that forever the descendants of Ham will be slaves. Why? because Ham did not have control over his senses. This characteristic is passed down to all of his generation.

Ham is the father of the African races.

Low impulse control leads to crime. A person who controls his emotions is one who commits less crime. All human beings are passionate and emotional; jealousy, envy, covetousness lead people to commit crime. All people are born with a beast inside. It is up to the individual person to control that beast. With the African nations, they are born with a handicap. A handicap of low-impulse control which leads to their committing more crimes and rapes. Can't help it.

When the 1960's hippie movement unleashed their "Let it all Hang out" and "Do what you feel like" which purposely undermined Christian culture and teaching, it was about unleashing the beast within. So of course this 60s countercultural teaching was imbibed by the Africans and wal-la--you have a massive crime wave.

Race does matter and there are inherent racial characteristics. This is what Philosophy teaches, "What does nature teach". Nature always flouresces to the top. Nature always blooms. And Nature will have its course and human sophistry can not touch it, change it, or dismiss it. Nature will have its way!

Philosophy is about "reading nature" for it is about following and knowing the wisdom buried in Nature.

[artisticsolution]

Well there is a big problem here. When a person decides to commit a crime he or she do not ask their genes for permission; there are very complex sets of reasons to do with the identification of crime, the commission of crime, and the media attention that some crimes get over others. The biggest crimes in our society are committed quite legally by CEOs, bankers and financiers. Is it because they are Jews, or Caucasians? Do we even consider what genetic factors urge Alan Greenspan, or Ben Bernanke to act like evil morons? Why is it we so easily accept blanket coverage of Young Black Males on our TV screens. Why do we not spend more time following bankers and sellers of derivatives around?
Genes simply do not explain the position of blacks in society. For that you need to look at myth, prejudice, otherness, and social construction of ethnic fallacies.

AS: Very good point. I agree.

Side question...do you think the population of the Earth will ever become so mixed that we will not be able to tell a difference among us? Not only from the point of appearances but also from a political point of view? Also, if that ever happens...do you still think there will be crimes committed against humanity not having to do with race?

[chaz wyman]

Well there is a big problem here. When a person decides to commit a crime he or she do not ask their genes for permission; there are very complex sets of reasons to do with the identification of crime, the commission of crime, and the media attention that some crimes get over others. The biggest crimes in our society are committed quite legally by CEOs, bankers and financiers. Is it because they are Jews, or Caucasians? Do we even consider what genetic factors urge Alan Greenspan, or Ben Bernanke to act like evil morons? Why is it we so easily accept blanket coverage of Young Black Males on our TV screens. Why do we not spend more time following bankers and sellers of derivatives around?
Genes simply do not explain the position of blacks in society. For that you need to look at myth, prejudice, otherness, and social construction of ethnic fallacies.

AS: Very good point. I agree.

Side question...do you think the population of the Earth will ever become so mixed that we will not be able to tell a difference among us? Not only from the point of appearances but also from a political point of view? Also, if that ever happens...do you still think there will be crimes committed against humanity not having to do with race?

Yes and No.

Yes because I hope that MLK's words that the colour of skin should be no more important than the colour of a persons eyes.
But no because no one can possibly be the same as another - thankfully.
The trick is to realise the beauty of human diversity and not chop people up into racial boxes based on arbitrary and irrelevant differences.
The most successful cultures are those that have exhibited cultural and (so-called) ethnic diversity. But this is all about the cross pollination of ideas, and very little to do with racial differences.
If we were significantly determined by our race then you have to ask the question how have Australian Aboriginees or Native Americans, or Black Africans moved from the stone age to the 21stC in a few generations?
If we are to insist that the level of their culture is due to racial characteristics, as the Victorians wanted to insists, then that would imply that they are more adaptable than whites who took 12,000 years to make the same change. Clearly those 'primitive' and 'savage' people who have managed to move amongst white people as equals (sometimes against extreme prejudice) are living proof of how poor race theory is to suggest any social determination.

[chaz wyman]

Races do have inherent differences. This is an anathema to the Left and the multiculturalists hell bent on making their "One World Government".

What helps crime along is "Low Impulse Control". There has been a study with children of different races. When a candy bar is placed in front of them, they are told that if they wait five minutes, they would get a larger candybar. Many African children did not wait but picked up the bar for instant gratification.

Instant gratification is what crime is. We are to have "self-control" over our passions. Aristotle talks about this. This is why Aristotle said some people, i.e. races (the Greek word is "ethnicities") are natural slaves because they can not control their passions. That is low-impulse control. Aristotle said that people that cannot control their passions are natural slaves.

This is born out in the Bible where Ham is cursed. When he say Noah naked, he could not avert his eyes. Noah cursed his son. The Bible teaches that forever the descendants of Ham will be slaves. Why? because Ham did not have control over his senses. This characteristic is passed down to all of his generation.

Ham is the father of the African races.

Low impulse control leads to crime. A person who controls his emotions is one who commits less crime. All human beings are passionate and emotional; jealousy, envy, covetousness lead people to commit crime. All people are born with a beast inside. It is up to the individual person to control that beast. With the African nations, they are born with a handicap. A handicap of low-impulse control which leads to their committing more crimes and rapes. Can't help it.

When the 1960's hippie movement unleashed their "Let it all Hang out" and "Do what you feel like" which purposely undermined Christian culture and teaching, it was about unleashing the beast within. So of course this 60s countercultural teaching was imbibed by the Africans and wal-la--you have a massive crime wave.

Race does matter and there are inherent racial characteristics. This is what Philosophy teaches, "What does nature teach". Nature always flouresces to the top. Nature always blooms. And Nature will have its course and human sophistry can not touch it, change it, or dismiss it. Nature will have its way!

Philosophy is about "reading nature" for it is about following and knowing the wisdom buried in Nature.

Morons have innate differences too.
As there is no natural category "race" then your differences are as arbitrary as your definition of one race against another.

[artisticsolution]

SOB:
It's called the scientific method, and is the same one used by your geneticists, oh no, suddenly when science supports your argument it's highly respected, What an idiot, that selectively believes in something when it suits her.

AS: No...science produces facts. If you think Dog psychology is a 'fact' then you are being gullible. There is no such thing as a subconscious...just as there is no such thing as a soul in humans or dogs. Mankind uses these words for something he can't explain. He might be able to prove these ideas someday...but until you can show me a tangible thing and literally say, "Here is a subconscious...or here is a soul" and here is the scientific explanation of said things then I think you are falling for a 'scientific' hoax. I don't care how popular it is to believe something....religion is popular too....but they can't show me a "God." I will admit there is a feeling and so we want to make sense of it....but until there is a "real" tangible discovery ...it's just some person with a theory and a degree telling you how to think. We were all bulldozed my Freud. Kudo's to him for naming certain feelings though...even though in reality...he is probably the only one who felt them. He just assumed since he thought them, everyone must...and he got you to believe it! HA!

SOB:All this she says, but who the hell is she? Absolutely nobody!!
At least, of any consequence.

AS: Case and point. A "scientist" could tell you the sky was falling and you'd believe it. Let me guess...you stopped drinking apple juice when they told you it had traces of arsenic? Right?

P.S.
And for your edification, by definition:

con·serv·a·tive /kənˈsɜrvətɪv/ [kuhn-sur-vuh-tiv]
adjective
1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.

lib·er·al /ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl/ [lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl]
adjective
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

SOB:Thus conservative's would have us believing in antiquated superstitions of the distant past, as in slavery, as history shows us, much like the church controlling literacy for it's own dominance and thus benefit, the bigots that they are, while clearly liberals try and wipe the archaic shit from the eyes of the would be fools, as they know that knowledge, and thus truth, always moves forward in time?

AS: Both conservatives and Liberals are prone to gullibility. The definition you posted above is archaic. Seems to me conservatives are very progressive if it means money can be made. Sounds like you are the one with the bigotry though...you just can't see it because of your "liberal" agenda. Same old story...us against them.

SOB:Clearly then, conservatives are steeped in ignorance, while liberals embrace the future enlightenment of truth that shall set us all free. Sorry, 'sweetheart' there are no slaves with the liberal agenda!

[SpheresOfBalance]

Races do have inherent differences. This is an anathema to the Left and the multiculturalists hell bent on making their "One World Government".
Government has nothing to do with it, it's about the truth of one people you idiot.

What helps crime along is "Low Impulse Control". There has been a study with children of different races. When a candy bar is placed in front of them, they are told that if they wait five minutes, they would get a larger candybar. Many African children did not wait but picked up the bar for instant gratification.
What you fools fail to consider, is the multitudes of constituents that compose an individuals psyche. For instance, had these African children been exposed to hunger and starvation prior to the study? For your information, another study that was on obesity found that the reason most people over eat is because of the fact that for the majority of human existence food was in short supply. All that time we were hunters & gatherers, such that starvation was an actuality. Finally, within the recent past we achieved the ability to mass produce food, such as to negate hunger and starvation, this wealth of food can be found in your supermarkets all clear shrink wrapped so you can finally pick and choose, at least those having money. What the scientists realized was that the psyche hasn't had time to adapt to this new found abundance of food, such that the innate impulse to eat while you've got it, programmed for hundreds of thousands of years, has not caught up with this abundance. So you're right back in poverty's lap, though you and your kind can't see the forest for the trees.

Instant gratification is what crime is. We are to have "self-control" over our passions. Aristotle talks about this. This is why Aristotle said some people, i.e. races (the Greek word is "ethnicities") are natural slaves because they can not control their passions. That is low-impulse control. Aristotle said that people that cannot control their passions are natural slaves.
Can you actually see anything, with your head so far up your ass?

This is born out in the Bible where Ham is cursed. When he say Noah naked, he could not avert his eyes. Noah cursed his son. The Bible teaches that forever the descendants of Ham will be slaves. Why? because Ham did not have control over his senses. This characteristic is passed down to all of his generation.
Oh my "GOD!"


Ham is the father of the African races.

Low impulse control leads to crime. A person who controls his emotions is one who commits less crime. All human beings are passionate and emotional; jealousy, envy, covetousness lead people to commit crime. All people are born with a beast inside. It is up to the individual person to control that beast. With the African nations, they are born with a handicap. A handicap of low-impulse control which leads to their committing more crimes and rapes. Can't help it.

When the 1960's hippie movement unleashed their "Let it all Hang out" and "Do what you feel like" which purposely undermined Christian culture and teaching, it was about unleashing the beast within. So of course this 60s countercultural teaching was imbibed by the Africans and wal-la--you have a massive crime wave.

Race does matter and there are inherent racial characteristics. This is what Philosophy teaches, "What does nature teach". Nature always flouresces to the top. Nature always blooms. And Nature will have its course and human sophistry can not touch it, change it, or dismiss it. Nature will have its way!

Philosophy is about "reading nature" for it is about following and knowing the wisdom buried in Nature.
I give up, there's no reasoning with some fools, steeped in superstitious, self serving, self sucking, tripe! You're a fucking dimwit!

[Clinias]

Artisticsolutions wrote this:

Side question...do you think the population of the Earth will ever become so mixed that we will not be able to tell a difference among us? Not only from the point of appearances but also from a political point of view? Also, if that ever happens...do you still think there will be crimes committed against humanity not having to do with race?

This 'become so mixed that we will not be able to tell a difference among us' is actually genocide. This person artisticsolutions is actually engaging in genocide and wants it! This is what communism/Marxism is. It is about destroying race and nation, de-racination. This is evil. De-racination is evil.

[Clinias]

Communism and Marxism were all called "International Socialism" at one time. International Socialism is about doing away with race in order to "Rebuild the Unity of Man" which is Jewish Talmudic/Kabbalistic teaching. In order to bring that about, race must be destroyed. So to destroy race, is genocide, metaphysical existential genocide. It is amazing to see these people Chaz Wyman and SOB advocating and promoting genocide. I mean both Plato, Aristotle and the Bible both teach race.

"And all men are from the ground, and Adam was created of earth. In much knowledge the Lord hath divided them, and made their ways diverse. Some of them hath he blessed and exalted, and some of them hath he sanctified, and set near himself: but some of them hath he cursed and brought low, and turned out of their places. As the clay is in the potter's hand, to fashion it at his pleasure: so man is in the hand of him that made him, to render to them as liketh him best." (LXX, Ecclesiasticus 36.10-13)

So not only is there race, there is a hierarchy of races as well. It is funny to see Plato, Aristotle, and the Bible agree on a great many things. Race has always been a part of the human condition. The Bible speaks of races. The Bible speaks of the Hebrews "wiping out a whole race of men".

To deny race is an act of genocide.

[SpheresOfBalance]

SOB:
It's called the scientific method, and is the same one used by your geneticists, oh no, suddenly when science supports your argument it's highly respected, What an idiot, that selectively believes in something when it suits her.

AS: No...science produces facts. If you think Dog psychology is a 'fact' then you are being gullible. There is no such thing as a subconscious...just as there is no such thing as a soul in humans or dogs. Mankind uses these words for something he can't explain. He might be able to prove these ideas someday...but until you can show me a tangible thing and literally say, "Here is a subconscious...or here is a soul" and here is the scientific explanation of said things then I think you are falling for a 'scientific' hoax. I don't care how popular it is to believe something....religion is popular too....but they can't show me a "God." I will admit there is a feeling and so we want to make sense of it....but until there is a "real" tangible discovery ...it's just some person with a theory and a degree telling you how to think. We were all bulldozed my Freud. Kudo's to him for naming certain feelings though...even though in reality...he is probably the only one who felt them. He just assumed since he thought them, everyone must...and he got you to believe it! HA!

SOB:All this she says, but who the hell is she? Absolutely nobody!!
At least, of any consequence.

AS: Case and point. A "scientist" could tell you the sky was falling and you'd believe it. Let me guess...you stopped drinking apple juice when they told you it had traces of arsenic? Right?

P.S.
And for your edification, by definition:

con·serv·a·tive /kənˈsɜrvətɪv/ [kuhn-sur-vuh-tiv]
adjective
1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.

lib·er·al /ˈlɪbərəl, ˈlɪbrəl/ [lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl]
adjective
1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

SOB:Thus conservative's would have us believing in antiquated superstitions of the distant past, as in slavery, as history shows us, much like the church controlling literacy for it's own dominance and thus benefit, the bigots that they are, while clearly liberals try and wipe the archaic shit from the eyes of the would be fools, as they know that knowledge, and thus truth, always moves forward in time?

AS: Both conservatives and Liberals are prone to gullibility. The definition you posted above is archaic.
You obviously don't know what archaic means, those defs are from a dictionary, copyright 2012, and notice that in both cases they're the first ones. No wonder you're ignorant, you lack education!

Seems to me conservatives are very progressive if it means money can be made. Sounds like you are the one with the bigotry though...you just can't see it because of your "liberal" agenda. Same old story...us against them.
You're correct, I'm a bigot, of sorts. I hate those that hate. I hate the Nazis and their neo brothern, I hate the backward southern fucks, that think blacks are beneath them, I hate the evil fucks of the world, so yes, I guess you can call me a bigot of sorts. Once all those haters get their heads out of their asses I'll welcome them back into the fold. The difference between me and them is that I'll not do them any physical harm, because of their differences. Just tell them that they're the dumb shits that they are! If you think I don't make allowances for them, you're a fool, I know that they are sick, and require psychological help. Trust me, I look forward to the day that I can hang up my hate of the haters. It's too much fucking work to explain the obvious to fools.


SOB:Clearly then, conservatives are steeped in ignorance, while liberals embrace the future enlightenment of truth that shall set us all free. Sorry, 'sweetheart' there are no slaves with the liberal agenda!

[SpheresOfBalance]

Artisticsolutions wrote this:

Side question...do you think the population of the Earth will ever become so mixed that we will not be able to tell a difference among us? Not only from the point of appearances but also from a political point of view? Also, if that ever happens...do you still think there will be crimes committed against humanity not having to do with race?

This 'become so mixed that we will not be able to tell a difference among us' is actually genocide. This person artisticsolutions is actually engaging in genocide and wants it! This is what communism/Marxism is. It is about destroying race and nation, de-racination. This is evil. De-racination is evil.

You're a fucking clown, you actually make me laugh with your absurd notions.

You've either got to be kidding me, or you're just playing devils advocate, no one can be as stupid as you paint yourself.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Communism and Marxism were all called "International Socialism" at one time. International Socialism is about doing away with race in order to "Rebuild the Unity of Man" which is Jewish Talmudic/Kabbalistic teaching. In order to bring that about, race must be destroyed. So to destroy race, is genocide, metaphysical existential genocide. It is amazing to see these people Chaz Wyman and SOB advocating and promoting genocide. I mean both Plato, Aristotle and the Bible both teach race.

"And all men are from the ground, and Adam was created of earth. In much knowledge the Lord hath divided them, and made their ways diverse. Some of them hath he blessed and exalted, and some of them hath he sanctified, and set near himself: but some of them hath he cursed and brought low, and turned out of their places. As the clay is in the potter's hand, to fashion it at his pleasure: so man is in the hand of him that made him, to render to them as liketh him best." (LXX, Ecclesiasticus 36.10-13)

So not only is there race, there is a hierarchy of races as well. It is funny to see Plato, Aristotle, and the Bible agree on a great many things. Race has always been a part of the human condition. The Bible speaks of races. The Bible speaks of the Hebrews "wiping out a whole race of men".

To deny race is an act of genocide.

Your shit spouting is the epitome of absurdity!

[Kayla]

This 'become so mixed that we will not be able to tell a difference among us' is actually genocide. This person artisticsolutions is actually engaging in genocide and wants it! This is what communism/Marxism is. It is about destroying race and nation, de-racination. This is evil. De-racination is evil.

are you on drugs

where in the communist manifesto or Das Capital does it say anything about race relations one way or another

marxism is about economics not race

fucking jesus christ on a stick so many of my fellow countrymen will spout off about marxism and communism without having the slightest clue what marxism is

its embarrassing