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FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:31 pm The other populist alt-right types, I never call nazis. I've never aimed that at Walker, Henry, Immanuel Can or Imp. To varying degrees they are conspiracy nuts but not nazi ones to my knowledge, so I don't call them that. You can ask any of them if that's a lie, it is not. You get called a nazi because you have distinct actual nazi tendencies. Those other guy all know it too, it's why you can never really get them onside.

This is actually interesting to me. I’ll get back to it soon.

Meanwhile, my cookbook The Nazi Sweet-Tooth: 88 of Adolf & Eva’s Favorite Aryan Desserts is ready for publication!

One of my favorite scenes is in Inglorious Basterds (i think it was) when whatshisname playing the Nazi officer is in that cafe eating the strudel with the french theater owner woman. Him eating that strudel was shot so well. The zoom-ins on the plate, the quick and decisive use of the fork to scoop the bite to his mouth. Dabbing the piece into the cream, etc. His pompous and aloof german officer chewing as he talks. The whole scene is glorious.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:31 pm

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:03 pm

MagsJ wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 3:48 pm
Well said! .. It’s very odd.

Calling people liars.. too primary-school level for me to continue entertaining the guy and his non-philosophy style of debate.

Arguing from emotion? Probably..

Flash is interesting. In many areas he reasons soundly. But he is, as far as I am able to understand, an extreme progressive. Or an extreme Liberal (?) He cannot in any sense fairly understand the sea-change occurring in Europe with all its dimension, and he does not want to.

Any deviation, even ultra-minor, from what Flash thinks is *good* is given the label Nazi.

In all of this he is ultra-irrational.

I call you and Wizard22 nazis, other than your own previous incarnation (bjorn something) and some guy called sausage dog or something like that, I don't recall calling anyone else nazi. People have to advocate for racial de-integration and formation of those little ethno-states to be in that club really. The Jews stuff though is a bit of deal-sealer for you and Wizzy.

The other populist alt-right types, I never call nazis. I've never aimed that at Walker, Henry, Immanuel Can or Imp. To varying degrees they are conspiracy nuts but not nazi ones to my knowledge, so I don't call them that. You can ask any of them if that's a lie, it is not. You get called a nazi because you have distinct actual nazi tendencies. Those other guy all know it too, it's why you can never really get them onside.

Neither you nor Mags is equipped to judge whether my reasoning skills are adequate.

Are these people 'nazis' flash? Are you happy to have 'nazis' in your country (oops, 'the piece of rock you you've plonked yourself on')?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6LBbAuy97k4

accelafine wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 5:51 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:31 pm

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:03 pm
Flash is interesting. In many areas he reasons soundly. But he is, as far as I am able to understand, an extreme progressive. Or an extreme Liberal (?) He cannot in any sense fairly understand the sea-change occurring in Europe with all its dimension, and he does not want to.

Any deviation, even ultra-minor, from what Flash thinks is *good* is given the label Nazi.

In all of this he is ultra-irrational.

I call you and Wizard22 nazis, other than your own previous incarnation (bjorn something) and some guy called sausage dog or something like that, I don't recall calling anyone else nazi. People have to advocate for racial de-integration and formation of those little ethno-states to be in that club really. The Jews stuff though is a bit of deal-sealer for you and Wizzy.

The other populist alt-right types, I never call nazis. I've never aimed that at Walker, Henry, Immanuel Can or Imp. To varying degrees they are conspiracy nuts but not nazi ones to my knowledge, so I don't call them that. You can ask any of them if that's a lie, it is not. You get called a nazi because you have distinct actual nazi tendencies. Those other guy all know it too, it's why you can never really get them onside.

Neither you nor Mags is equipped to judge whether my reasoning skills are adequate.

Are these people 'nazis' flash? Are you happy to have 'nazis' in your country (oops, 'the piece of rock you you've plonked yourself on')?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6LBbAuy97k4

Pretty sure the schools those guys went to didn't really teach 20th century European history much, so those guys don't know any more about Hitler than the dude who runs the Hitler Fried Chicken spot in Bangkok

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:26 pm

accelafine wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 5:51 pm

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:31 pm
I call you and Wizard22 nazis, other than your own previous incarnation (bjorn something) and some guy called sausage dog or something like that, I don't recall calling anyone else nazi. People have to advocate for racial de-integration and formation of those little ethno-states to be in that club really. The Jews stuff though is a bit of deal-sealer for you and Wizzy.

The other populist alt-right types, I never call nazis. I've never aimed that at Walker, Henry, Immanuel Can or Imp. To varying degrees they are conspiracy nuts but not nazi ones to my knowledge, so I don't call them that. You can ask any of them if that's a lie, it is not. You get called a nazi because you have distinct actual nazi tendencies. Those other guy all know it too, it's why you can never really get them onside.

Neither you nor Mags is equipped to judge whether my reasoning skills are adequate.

Are these people 'nazis' flash? Are you happy to have 'nazis' in your country (oops, 'the piece of rock you you've plonked yourself on')?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6LBbAuy97k4

Pretty sure the schools those guys went to didn't really teach 20th century European history much, so those guys don't know any more about Hitler than the dude who runs the Hitler Fried Chicken spot in Bangkok

Oh right, because they are just poor, dumb, ignorant brown people with no education. Do you even hear yourself? Wow. Yet they speak English and know who Hitler is. Do you speak Pakistani? Do you know any Pakistani history?

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Mark Zuckerberg declaring giving people their ‘freedom of expression’ back on Instagram, X/Twitter-style.. including topics like immigration and gender which are just out of touch with mainstream discourse, and that they will be working closely with the Trump administration after having gotten things so wrong for so many years.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEhf2uTJ ... ludjBqYmgx

They were wrong, he said, to censor people because of the push from governments and legacy media to censor more and more.


So that guy on here, going around telling others what not to say, can stop doing so now that he’s gotten the memo.

This is the trouble with 'open door' immigration. It seems to me that woke sucker England is getting for the most part the absolute WORST that ancient, historically and culturally rich countries like Pakistan have to offer. Heck. They were probably THROWN out of them. Highly skilled people such as surgeons can't really be classed as 'immigrants'. They are highly sought after and welcome in any country.
Imagine having countries that are dumb enough to take all the rubbish citizens you don't want. I bet those Hitler-lovers are on a flight to Heathrow as we speak

MagsJ wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:40 pm .
Mark Zuckerberg declaring giving people their ‘freedom of speech’ back, on his platforms, X/Twitter-style.. including topics like immigration and gender which are just out of touch with mainstream discourse, and that they will be working closely with the Trump administration after having gotten things so wrong for so many years.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEhf2uTJ ... ludjBqYmgx

They were wrong, he said, to censor people because of the push from governments and legacy media to censor more and more.


So that guy on here, going around telling others what not to say, can stop doing so now that he’s gotten the memo.

OK, I can see what you don't like about fact checkers.

Nazi-hunter Flash wrote:

The other populist alt-right types, I never call nazis. I've never aimed that at Walker, Henry, Immanuel Can or Imp. To varying degrees they are conspiracy nuts but not nazi ones to my knowledge, so I don't call them that. You can ask any of them if that's a lie, it is not. You get called a nazi because you have distinct actual nazi tendencies. Those other guy all know it too, it's why you can never really get them onside.

It would be even more utterly absurd to use even a remotely similar term for any one of those.

Walker is very hard to classify but is really old-school American, waxing to a form of Trumpish populism.

I cannot think of anyone more “classically Liberal” than IC.

Imp is only known through quips. What could be known?

And Henry doesn’t really have a politics. He seems only to want to live and be left alone.

So, you nut, you definitely should not call them Nazis!

You get called a nazi because you have distinct actual nazi tendencies.

Absolutely false. Calumny. You have no grounds to say nor grounds to believe such a thing. And it is absurd that you do.

Tendencies? What are those tendencies? Can you back this up?

In other news …

Today the US Congress certified the election of the “Hitler” Donald Trump.

I think perhaps you don't really bother reading what people write because the below is some real stupid shit.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:20 pm Nazi-hunter Flash wrote:

The other populist alt-right types, I never call nazis. I've never aimed that at Walker, Henry, Immanuel Can or Imp. To varying degrees they are conspiracy nuts but not nazi ones to my knowledge, so I don't call them that. You can ask any of them if that's a lie, it is not. You get called a nazi because you have distinct actual nazi tendencies. Those other guy all know it too, it's why you can never really get them onside.

It would be even more utterly absurd to use even a remotely similar term for any one of those.

Please try to remember the context of discussions otherwise you will be considered a buffoon. The context here was that you accused me of calling any and sundry nazis, thus I pointed to a bunch of right wingers who I do not call nazis. This was to further my point that it's really only two people who I do call nazis, and both of you are race-separatists with nazi leanings and a lot of links to anti-Semitism, so it is fair game.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:20 pm Walker is very hard to classify but is really old-school American, waxing to a form of Trumpish populism.

Walker is an A-Grade right wing conspiracy theorist who will turn any and all conversations into a rant about Trump and has done so for many years. He was the one that believed all of Sidney Powell's "kraken" stuff, he even bought into the Italian Satellites story that only a complete idiot could fall for. He initially declared the J6 riots were all antifa and claimed to have facial recognition proof. When that fell apart he claimed the riots were really just a sort of mild tourism, he never experiences any discomfort during these whiplash contortions.

He is a ridiculous ideologue and if you cannot spot it in him then you have no place trying to identify such in me.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:20 pm I cannot think of anyone more “classically Liberal” than IC.

That's just stupidity. Any classical liberal at all would in any and every case leave your decisions about your body and your health to be decided between you and your doctor according to the principles of medical ethics. This is the implicit privacy guarantee in Roe v Wade and I think IC does not agree with it. Also he is content if I am not mistaken to permit a similar breach of privacy in regards to doctors and patients making decisions about gender issues. He is a Conservative, a conformist. Any appearance of liberality is a matter of pure coincidence when the dictates of liberalism happen to overlap with his preferences.

To be a Liberal one must put their own religious qualms aside from time to time in order to maximise the freedoms of others.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:20 pm Imp is only known through quips. What could be known?

You never noticed that those quips tend to say "I see dead leftists" and such rather often? You pose like somebody who takes an active interest in others, but you don't have the moves. You are an excellent, or at least a persistent propagandist, but you are not much of an observer.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:20 pm And Henry doesn’t really have a politics. He seems only to want to live and be left alone.

You allow yourself to be taken in by Henry's Simple Country Hyperchicken routine
Henry toes the MAGA line in nearly all cases, even when he must put aside all of his own minarchist politics to do so. Same as IC and his "liberalism", if Trump really does apply a bunch of tariffs and start a trade war, they are going to be completely on side with that, minarchists and classical Liberals are supposed to be completely opposed to such things.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:20 pm So, you nut, you definitely should not call them Nazis!

They aren't nazis, so I don't call them such, never have, don't really need your opinion on the matter.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:20 pm

You get called a nazi because you have distinct actual nazi tendencies.

Absolutely false. Calumny. You have no grounds to say nor grounds to believe such a thing. And it is absurd that you do.

Tendencies? What are those tendencies? Can you back this up?

We did all this ages ago, why bother doing it again?

Henry doesn’t really have a politics. He seems only to want to live and be left alone.

True.

Henry toes the MAGA line in nearly all cases, even when he must put aside all of his own minarchist politics to do so.

False.

So we have ACTUAL people saying OUT LOUD that they love and admire HITLER who are NOT 'nazis' (according to Flashpants), because they are too brown, dumb and uneducated to understand the words that are coming out of their mouths (according to Flashpants).

Ok. Clearly wokies breathe different air from the rest of us. They have special invisible 'gills' which enable them to seemingly occupy the same space as the rest of us while remaining in their special little bubble of elite woke obliviousness and moral perfection.

"Today the US Congress certified the election of the “Hitler” Donald Trump."

Now as an anarcho-capitalist having emancipated myself from the wage earning class as well as renouncing my constitutional citizenship and obligation to the rule of law therefore (think of me as a one man Cosa Nostra), my only two beefs with the Don is him wanting to defund the IRS. That would mean they wouldn't have the finances to go after the big fish, and so would go after the little guys like me.

The second is his appointing conservatives everywhere who are least likely to abolish the national SOR or at least ease up on it and change all the heinous shit that's now part of it ruining everyone's life who's on it.

Other than that, I'm good because the dude doesn't concern me.