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Re: Christianity

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:05 am
by Harry Baird
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:42 am My ancestors would certainly have identified that way. It really has nothing to do with me after 200 years lol.
You're free to disclaim any need for restorative justice as a member of a group treated unjustly. I would never deny you and others like you that right: that's what the right to self-determination entails.

I just encourage you to think about other groups whose members in the vast majority would not disclaim their legitimate right to restorative justice.

The primary group to which I refer in discussions like this is that of indigenous Australians, because I immigrated to Australia as a child (not understanding the political consequences), and thus it is the colonial system that I understand best.

Europeans invaded this continent. Indigenous Australians never ceded their lands.

More than 200 years later, it has everything to do with them.

Re: Christianity

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:12 am
by Walker
Harbal wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:43 am
Walker wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:58 pm When you shake hands, you use a firm grip and look them in the eye.
Do you like a man with a firm grip, Walker? :wink:
Pathetic, in a creepy kind of way.

Re: Christianity

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:14 am
by Walker
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:25 pm
Walker wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:40 pm It has nothing to do with the person being attacked.

It's the principle of ... If any lout walks into a church wearing a hat and I happen to be there, I'll knock it off their head because it's well deserved for being disrespectful and stupid, and ignorance is no excuse.

I'll chop down a mountain with the edge of my hand. :wink:
That's assault you self-righteous old twat.
How appropriate a comment, for a shit speaker.

Definition
shit house lawyer
An unqualified person who gives legal advice. Usually distorting the advice to favor a desired outcome.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define. ... e%20lawyer

Re: Christianity

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:17 am
by Walker
attofishpi wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:37 am
Jesus was born with the animals, funny that.
born ≠ raised

So what's your point?

Re: Christianity

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:17 am
by Harbal
Walker wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:12 am
Harbal wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:43 am
Walker wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:58 pm When you shake hands, you use a firm grip and look them in the eye.
Do you like a man with a firm grip, Walker? :wink:
Pathetic, in a creepy kind of way.
:wink:

Re: Christianity

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:18 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
Harry Baird wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:05 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:42 am My ancestors would certainly have identified that way. It really has nothing to do with me after 200 years lol.
You're free to disclaim any need for restorative justice as a member of a group treated unjustly. I would never deny you and others like you that right: that's what the right to self-determination entails.

I just encourage you to think about other groups whose members in the vast majority would not disclaim their legitimate right to restorative justice.

The primary group to which I refer in discussions like this is that of indigenous Australians, because I immigrated to Australia as a child (not understanding the political consequences), and thus it is the colonial system that I understand best.

Europeans invaded this continent. Indigenous Australians never ceded their lands.

More than 200 years later, it has everything to do with them.
The aborigines have been treated like shit since the first colonists arrived there. It's very recent history and ongoing. They were being hunted into the 1970s for fuck sake, which means that many of those murderers would be still alive today. If you feel that badly then you could always go back to whence you came.

Re: Christianity

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:20 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
Walker wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:14 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:25 pm
Walker wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:40 pm It has nothing to do with the person being attacked.

It's the principle of ... If any lout walks into a church wearing a hat and I happen to be there, I'll knock it off their head because it's well deserved for being disrespectful and stupid, and ignorance is no excuse.

I'll chop down a mountain with the edge of my hand. :wink:
That's assault you self-righteous old twat.
How appropriate a comment, for a shit speaker.

Definition
shit house lawyer
An unqualified person who gives legal advice. Usually distorting the advice to favor a desired outcome.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define. ... e%20lawyer
You seem to be becoming more unhinged by the hour.

Re: Christianity

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:22 am
by Walker
seeds wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:53 pm
However, the point is that I was simply using the KKK picture as an example of humans who have freely chosen to wear costumes that help to clearly identify the depth and degree of their earthly somnambulism...
Interesting. And folks always thought they were just hiding their identities to escape prosecution for their illegal actions.

Re: Christianity

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:25 am
by Walker
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:20 am blah blah
And you're getting more kuntier, if that's even possible.

"Usually distorting the advice to favor a desired outcome."
(Oh yes. So twue, so twue.)

Re: Christianity

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:27 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
Walker wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:22 am
seeds wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:53 pm
However, the point is that I was simply using the KKK picture as an example of humans who have freely chosen to wear costumes that help to clearly identify the depth and degree of their earthly somnambulism...
Interesting. And folks always thought they were just hiding their identities to escape persecution for their illegal actions.
'Persecution'? Is that really the word you wanted to use?

Re: Christianity

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:28 am
by Walker
Harbal wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:17 am
Walker wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:12 am
Harbal wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:43 am

Do you like a man with a firm grip, Walker? :wink:
Pathetic, in a creepy kind of way.
:wink:
I guess you didn't understand, yet again. Poor Harbal. Doesn't understand.

What you did was the definition of shit house lawyer.
"Usually distorting the advice to favor a desired outcome."

Re: Christianity

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:29 am
by Walker
promethean75 wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:54 pm um
"Usually distorting the advice to favor a desired outcome."

Re: Christianity

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:32 am
by Walker
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:27 am
Walker wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:22 am
seeds wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:53 pm
However, the point is that I was simply using the KKK picture as an example of humans who have freely chosen to wear costumes that help to clearly identify the depth and degree of their earthly somnambulism...
Interesting. And folks always thought they were just hiding their identities to escape persecution for their illegal actions.
'Persecution'? Is that really the word you wanted to use?
No. I edited it to prosecution, before (5:25 am) the spell check that is now your assigned duty.

The mis-spelling was caused by the oft' need to reference what it is, that you do.

You persecute Christianity.

Thanks for the highlight, you stupid kunt.

Re: Christianity

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:34 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
Walker wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:32 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:27 am
Walker wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:22 am
Interesting. And folks always thought they were just hiding their identities to escape persecution for their illegal actions.
'Persecution'? Is that really the word you wanted to use?
No. I edited it to prosecution, before the spell check that is now your assigned duty.

Just trying to be helpful. Must have been a Freudian slip :wink:

Re: Christianity

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:36 am
by Harry Baird
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:18 am The aborigines have been treated like shit since the first colonists arrived there. It's very recent history and ongoing. They were being hunted into the 1970s for fuck sake, which means that many of those murderers would be still alive today.
We seem to agree here. I'm not 100% sure on the hunting into the 1970s, but it sure seems plausible. Indigenous Australians have suffered extraordinarily at European hands.
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:18 am If you feel that badly then you could always go back to whence you came.
Well, I came from South Africa, which was itself an exploitative colonial project.

If you mean, where I ultimately came from: that would probably be, for the most part, Scotland at best guess. There are reasons why returning there is not so feasible for me.

The best I can do in my current situation is to fight and to advocate for, and to support, where I am here and now, restorative justice for indigenous Australians. If that ultimately results in my return to my long-ago ancestral lands, then I will cross that bridge at the time.