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I'll wait for a second opinion before I start to question it.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 6:55 pmWell, your vision might need a checkup.Harbal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 6:24 pmI'm afraid what I see is out of my control.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 6:01 pm
Well, maybe you should observe aptly. That might be better.
I must admit it would make things much simpler for the rest of us if you were both in the same camp. Put the rest of your differences aside and form an alliance, and thus may we kill two birds with one stone.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:54 pm Carry on IC. To be truthful I like and agree with much of your reasoning
Well, why would I "budge," when phyllo claims "Messiah," and all you've got is "Cyrus"?Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:54 pm Carry on IC. To be truthful I like and agree with much of your reasoning and exposition but there are moments when you simply will not budge.
Harbal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:10 pmI must admit it would make things much simpler for the rest of us if you were both in the same camp. Put the rest of your differences aside and form an alliance, and thus may we kill two birds with one stone.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:54 pm Carry on IC. To be truthful I like and agree with much of your reasoning
You couldn't hit a barn from the inside. 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 18772.htmlDonald Trump took to Truth Social to once again compare himself to Jesus Christ as he complained about the criminal and civil cases against him, which he views as politically motivated persecution.
On Monday, Mr Trump claimed that he received a message stating: “It’s ironic that Christ walked through His greatest persecution the very week they are trying to steal your property from you.”
“Beautiful, thank you!” Mr Trump responded, seemingly moved by the message that his $464m fine for decades of financial fraud is on the same level as the crucifixion and subsequent resurrection of Jesus Christ. The fine stems from a civil case in which New York State prosecuted Mr Trump for inflating the value of his assets to get better deals on loans and insurance.
Mr Trump’s Truth Social post came as he was in court for a hearing in the hush money case involving adult actor Stormy Daniels. Mr Trump faces dozens of counts of business fraud for allegedly filing a hush money payment as legal expenses after he directed his then-fixer Michael Cohen to pay Ms Daniels $130,000 to stay silent about an alleged 2006 affair during the final stretches of the 2016 campaign. Mr Trump has rejected all notions of wrongdoing and has been attempting to delay all the cases against him. The start of the hush money trial has now been set for 15 April.
The supposed sender of the message also included a verse saying, “They have also surrounded me with words of hatred – and fought against me without a cause – In return for my love they are my accusers ... let an accuser stand at his right hand – when he is judged – let him be found guilty – and let his prayer become sin – let his days be few – and let another take his office”.
It was unclear if Mr Trump believed that the last line was intended to refer to President Joe Biden, but the former president has repeatedly claimed that he’s being prosecuted because he’s standing in the way of the authorities going after his supporters.
The message Mr Trump shared said, “Thank you again for taking the arrows intended for us”.
I know, but you gotta talk tough, or folks don't respect you.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:56 pmHarbal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:10 pmI must admit it would make things much simpler for the rest of us if you were both in the same camp. Put the rest of your differences aside and form an alliance, and thus may we kill two birds with one stone.Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:54 pm Carry on IC. To be truthful I like and agree with much of your reasoning
From the inside of a You, it’s hard to get a handle on what’s going on.
So...somebody gave him an excessively generous compliment, and he said "Thank you" for it, and you think he thinks he's the Messiah?
It’s meant to appear as though there is a someone saying something that no one understands.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:14 amWow. That meant...something...I'm just not sure what.
OK. So if Trump isn't some holy godsend to you, then why defend him when he makes reckless comments such as he'll be "dictator for a day". Or why defend him when he says, "grab them by the pussy" when the "mee too" movement was going on in protest of sexism?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:53 pmWell, why would I "budge," when phyllo claims "Messiah," and all you've got is "Cyrus"?Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:54 pm Carry on IC. To be truthful I like and agree with much of your reasoning and exposition but there are moments when you simply will not budge.
So Trump's a "pagan ruler" with a favourable attitude to Israel. That's possible. That's what Cyrus was.
In any case, it's a really far cry from "Messiah," which was what you were claiming to be proving, and insisting was "evident"...with no evidence.
Probably mainly because of Trump's anti abortion promise, which he made to the Evangelicals as a bribe.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:45 amOK. So if Trump isn't some holy godsend to you, then why defend him when he makes reckless comments such as he'll be "dictator for a day". Or why defend him when he says, "grab them by the pussy" when the "mee too" movement was going on in protest of sexism?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:53 pmWell, why would I "budge," when phyllo claims "Messiah," and all you've got is "Cyrus"?Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:54 pm Carry on IC. To be truthful I like and agree with much of your reasoning and exposition but there are moments when you simply will not budge.
So Trump's a "pagan ruler" with a favourable attitude to Israel. That's possible. That's what Cyrus was.
In any case, it's a really far cry from "Messiah," which was what you were claiming to be proving, and insisting was "evident"...with no evidence.
Why are you so angry and bitter?Harbal wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:24 amProbably mainly because of Trump's anti abortion promise, which he made to the Evangelicals as a bribe.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:45 amOK. So if Trump isn't some holy godsend to you, then why defend him when he makes reckless comments such as he'll be "dictator for a day". Or why defend him when he says, "grab them by the pussy" when the "mee too" movement was going on in protest of sexism?Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 8:53 pm
Well, why would I "budge," when phyllo claims "Messiah," and all you've got is "Cyrus"?
So Trump's a "pagan ruler" with a favourable attitude to Israel. That's possible. That's what Cyrus was.
In any case, it's a really far cry from "Messiah," which was what you were claiming to be proving, and insisting was "evident"...with no evidence.
What was "angry and bitter" about Harbal's response? Am I missing a conversation somewhere else on the forum? Would you fill me in? Otherwise, I'm not understanding the response to Harbal's post.accelafine wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:26 amWhy are you so angry and bitter?Harbal wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 9:24 amProbably mainly because of Trump's anti abortion promise, which he made to the Evangelicals as a bribe.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:45 am
OK. So if Trump isn't some holy godsend to you, then why defend him when he makes reckless comments such as he'll be "dictator for a day". Or why defend him when he says, "grab them by the pussy" when the "mee too" movement was going on in protest of sexism?