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chaz wyman wrote:LIVE is an anagram of EVIL - Dog is an anagram of God - SPOOOOOOKKKKKKYYYYY!!
Yeah, i spose it is.... The English language is riddled with it...it goes way beyond natural etymology.

Here's four more:
The sun of God - The son of God - Life giving?
Anarchy - An Arch Y <--- deduce any logic
Rape - r_ape - our ape (oh you are ape)
Chess Jurist <-- nice anagram for you to finish with
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attofishpi wrote:
chaz wyman wrote:LIVE is an anagram of EVIL - Dog is an anagram of God - SPOOOOOOKKKKKKYYYYY!!
Yeah, i spose it is.... The English language is riddled with it...it goes way beyond natural etymology.

Here's four more:
The sun of God - The son of God - Life giving?
Anarchy - An Arch Y <--- deduce any logic
Rape - r_ape - our ape (oh you are ape)
Chess Jurist <-- nice anagram for you to finish with
and ATTOFISHPI
is an anagram of

F. A PIT OF SHIT
And that is what your brain is doing if you think any of this stuff means anything at all.
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chaz wyman wrote:
attofishpi wrote:
chaz wyman wrote:LIVE is an anagram of EVIL - Dog is an anagram of God - SPOOOOOOKKKKKKYYYYY!!
Yeah, i spose it is.... The English language is riddled with it...it goes way beyond natural etymology.

Here's four more:
The sun of God - The son of God - Life giving?
Anarchy - An Arch Y <--- deduce any logic
Rape - r_ape - our ape (oh you are ape)
Chess Jurist <-- nice anagram for you to finish with
and ATTOFISHPI
is an anagram of

F. A PIT OF SHIT
And that is what your brain is doing if you think any of this stuff means anything at all.
Chaz ,,, you crack me up ,
I think you missed your calling ,
ever tried comedian ,???
now I know why your here , for comic relief ,
well done ,, you do it well , that reminded me of myself drunk ,
I was thinking up ways to dyslexise dyslexic ,
and I came up with Dicsexly ,,
but I was drunk , whats your excuse ,,???
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Godfree wrote:
chaz wyman wrote:
attofishpi wrote: Here's four more:
The sun of God - The son of God - Life giving?
Anarchy - An Arch Y <--- deduce any logic
Rape - r_ape - our ape (oh you are ape)
Chess Jurist <-- nice anagram for you to finish with
and ATTOFISHPI
is an anagram of

F. A PIT OF SHIT
And that is what your brain is doing if you think any of this stuff means anything at all.
Chaz ,,, you crack me up ,
I think you missed your calling ,
ever tried comedian ,???
now I know why your here , for comic relief ,
well done ,, you do it well , that reminded me of myself drunk ,
I was thinking up ways to dyslexise dyslexic ,
and I came up with Dicsexly ,,
but I was drunk , whats your excuse ,,???
All teachers have to be comedians.
Just call me Dick Slexic.
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What is this a << A Dogma Chew Frenzy? >>

(your names combined)

<< Amaze Wench Fry God >>
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attofishpi wrote:What is this a << A Dogma Chew Frenzy? >>

Considering your avatar should that not be " A ma dog chew frenzy"?
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chaz wyman wrote:
attofishpi wrote:What is this a << A Dogma Chew Frenzy? >>

Considering your avatar should that not be " A ma dog chew frenzy"?
so we can safely assume that trying to find meaning in messing with words ,
is science fiction .
a bit like playing the Beatles backwards , or numerology ,
people like to imagine a connection or message behind or beyond the obvious ,
a message from the stars , a black crow flew in , etc
people are desperately trying to find meaning and sense in the world ,
but they have already decided for them what is real ,
and they are seeking confirmation , not information ,
they imagine god is real , so they are constantly looking for signs ,
the car wouldn't start , maybe god is trying to tell me something ,
our child was stillborn , god must be testing us ,,!!!
atto , god must be testing you , can you handle the evil Atheists ,
maybe god is expecting you to defeat us with your faith ,???
you don't want god to look a fool do you ,,??
it's up to you atto , to defend gods honour ,,!!!
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Godfree wrote:so we can safely assume that trying to find meaning in messing with words ,
is science fiction .
Interesting that you used 'science' fiction...instead of just fiction.
This word thing is something that was taught to me by the sage, God...spooky...when it started back in '97.
Godfree wrote:a bit like playing the Beatles backwards , or numerology ,
people like to imagine a connection or message behind or beyond the obvious ,
a message from the stars , a black crow flew in , etc
people are desperately trying to find meaning and sense in the world ,
but they have already decided for them what is real ,
and they are seeking confirmation , not information ,
they imagine god is real , so they are constantly looking for signs ,
the car wouldn't start , maybe god is trying to tell me something ,
our child was stillborn , god must be testing us ,,!!!
I agree

This is what happened to me in '97, no word of a lie. I started delving into the English language, pulling it apart.
A lot of strange things were happening to be at the time, i was walking dimensions. I wrote down the last sentence of
the lords prayer backwards:
Deliver us from evil.
Live morf su reviled.

I translated as: Live morph soon revealed.

One week after doing this i was running late for work. I walked across a car park and an aboriginal youth (i reside in Australia)
was walking towards me, wearing a hooded jumper. When he was beside me i glanced over my shoulder at him. He was now taller, middle aged
and wearing 'neater' atire. Immediately i double took, and turned around, now to see him walking away as an old grey haired man, he was as white
as me (skin). I said something like 'Fuck!' and continued to walk to work. The was this man sitting on a bench grinning at me and rubbing his nose,
like 'yeah, he knows'

Godfree wrote:atto , god must be testing you , can you handle the evil Atheists ,
maybe god is expecting you to defeat us with your faith ,???
you don't want god to look a fool do you ,,??
it's up to you atto , to defend gods honour ,,!!!
You really dont under_stand me. I dont feel atheists are evil at all. ALL my friends are atheists.
You seem to be doing a typical pidgeon hole the Christian act
As far as God's honour is concerned...have you read the old testament?
I probably need a break from the forum for a while. I have a project to complete that will reveal some of those,
intracies, the logical anomalies within the English language that could not have resulted through natural etymology.
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attofishpi wrote:
Godfree wrote:so we can safely assume that trying to find meaning in messing with words ,
is science fiction .
Interesting that you used 'science' fiction...instead of just fiction.
This word thing is something that was taught to me by the sage, God...spooky...when it started back in '97.
You seem to enjoy your collection of delusions.
What you have is selective bias.
There are people that use maths to search for "hidden" messages in Biblical texts.
FUnny thing is you can do the same with Lord of the Rings, or just about any other book.

It's called selective bias.
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Happy new year everyone and GOD BLESS....Long live Palestine also. Down with Zionism in ALL forms.

Xenu
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xenuwonder wrote:Happy new year everyone and GOD BLESS....Long live Palestine also. Down with Zionism in ALL forms.

Xenu
What the hell is that ,,god bless and down with all forms of Zionism ,,???
so who's god are you blessing us with , if not the Zionists ,
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Godfree wrote:
xenuwonder wrote:Happy new year everyone and GOD BLESS....Long live Palestine also. Down with Zionism in ALL forms.

Xenu
What the hell is that ,,god bless and down with all forms of Zionism ,,???
so who's god are you blessing us with , if not the Zionists ,
It is possible to bless people whilst attacking their beliefs.
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chaz wyman wrote:
Godfree wrote:
xenuwonder wrote:Happy new year everyone and GOD BLESS....Long live Palestine also. Down with Zionism in ALL forms.

Xenu
What the hell is that ,,god bless and down with all forms of Zionism ,,???
so who's god are you blessing us with , if not the Zionists ,
It is possible to bless people whilst attacking their beliefs.
I thought the modern concept of god , came from the zionists ,
the old testament , the jews one god model ,
xenu is new to the forum , and a little green you might say ,
I think he was just after a bite ,
he probably doesn't believe in god ,couldn't give a shit about Palestine ,
I show respect for the people in here , I'm totally honest in my posts ,
I don't say things just to get a reaction ,
I have been consistent some would say a broken record ,
but it's real ,
I don't have the same faith in xenu's post
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Hanuman wrote:I first "crossed-over" to seriously doubting the existence of God, one night when I was on acid, back in college. Since then, I've taken the brain, I was told was given to me by my creator, and done my best to come to some sort of conclusion on the subject. SPOILER ALERT: God hasn't been winning.

Bible (Old Testament): While the bible is often cited as the word of God (written by man), there are a ton of things in there that are not quite God-like. First, God seems to be a mass murderer if you happen to be born into the wrong family (i.e. death of the first born son, Noah's Ark, the Red Sea waters return after parting for Moses, to drown his pursuers, etc.). Second, God seems to have emotions which are ungod-like, but are actually quite human. He's a betting man (Job). He gets angry in several situations, as well as bi-polar, and vengeful (Noah, Adam & Eve, Lot's wife, Moses beating the stone twice, and of course Revelations). He seems to have a self-esteem issue, demanding that people believe in him and no other gods (1st commandment), and demanding obedience to him and his rules.

In addition, I saw this a few years back, but didn't know where it was from. Assuming the source is correct (http://www.gotquestions.org/theodicy.html) it is from Epicurus, a Greek philosopher,

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

Some people might question the second point, throwing up the free-will argument. And I'll admit, that stumped me for a while, as well. However, having been around many mentally ill people, I have to question the idea of free will. Why would someone choose physically and mentally self-destructive behavior? I'm not talking about you go out and get bombed the night before a big test or work day. I'm talking about, I think I'll walk outside and blow some strangers head off for the hell of it. Or, I'm so depressed I think it's a good idea to cut myself. Psychology has all but proven that human behavior can be predicted in many situations with a high degree of accuracy. Possibly, free will is present on some level, but, I believe, the vast majority of our actions are determined by genetics, our background, our education, and previous experiences.

Lastly, the concept of heaven and hell. I know this is in the bible, but most religions have added on to it so much it bears separating. In addition, this is what finally made me "cross-over" to being a non-believer, at least in anything associated with Western religion. The question I asked myself is how could a benevolent, all-powerful god put me here on earth, give me this brain and personality that has the power and desire to question the logic of things, give me no credible and tangible evidence of his existence, and put me to a trial of if I choose to not believe in him OR if I do not follow his teachings (which are blurred by the existence of so many religions/cults), then these actions in my lifetime (which may last anywhere from 1 second to 100 or so years) will determine whether I spend eternity in paradise or everlasting torment. No, I'm sorry, I'm not buying that.
Great arguments! Seriously, but...
I submit that you are in fact not arguing against a creator but against the writers of the Bible.
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attofishpi wrote:
chaz wyman wrote:LIVE is an anagram of EVIL - Dog is an anagram of God - SPOOOOOOKKKKKKYYYYY!!
Yeah, i spose it is.... The English language is riddled with it...it goes way beyond natural etymology.

Here's four more:
The sun of God - The son of God - Life giving?
Anarchy - An Arch Y <--- deduce any logic
Rape - r_ape - our ape (oh you are ape)
Chess Jurist <-- nice anagram for you to finish with
Jim Morrison - Mr Mojo Risin
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