A Philosophy of Mind
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Barbara Brooks
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Plato was the first who conceived a method of knowledge, the bare outline, or form of truth; and abstraction of science, which was not yet realized. Benjamin Jowett who translated to English many of Plato’s work He thought Plato was the greatest metaphysical genius the world ; more than in any other ancient thinker, his seeds of future knowledge were contained based upon the interpretations of Socrates principles of definition, as, the law of contradiction, or the mistaken beliefs of arguing, and the distinction between the essence of a thing or the idea between means and ends, or between causes and effects. These and other great forms of thought are all of them to be found written by Plato.
Plato does not bind up truth in logic. Logic is metaphysics; Plato imagines to, "contemplate all truth and all existence".
Socrates looked coldly upon rhetoric because the words alone cause dishonesty. Virtue and knowledge philosophers will be truly rich, not in silver and gold, but the true blessings of life. The difference between the true philosopher and the sham is a task but whether easy or not lays the difference.
How brave a thing is freedom of speech.
Plato does not bind up truth in logic. Logic is metaphysics; Plato imagines to, "contemplate all truth and all existence".
Socrates looked coldly upon rhetoric because the words alone cause dishonesty. Virtue and knowledge philosophers will be truly rich, not in silver and gold, but the true blessings of life. The difference between the true philosopher and the sham is a task but whether easy or not lays the difference.
How brave a thing is freedom of speech.
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I can, is that like obeying orders without question?SpheresOfBalance wrote:Did I? And if I had, what, are you still the same old snot nosed kid you used to be? I also feel sorry for people that get older and do not grow (learn), Is one really responsible for what they did as a child, before they fully understood the folly of the construct? I see, that in fact, those that do not grow, were probably bought and sold, and as such, are just so much, a piece of meat. Can you say automaton?
But I agree with the snot-nosed kid thing as when I was one I understood that nationalism and the military were the tools of the capitalist pigs used to keep the system in place and pretty much only the lumpen-prole would join-up.
I can, do you think you'll be walking with the amount of morphine needed for the pain of a terminal illnesses?So who said this was a race or a competition? Sequence matters not. I say great minds think alike? And you may be underestimating me, while you speak from your own perspective; Projection? But I acknowledge that we really can't say for certain at this point. But can you cay cocktail?
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Arising_uk wrote:I can, is that like obeying orders without question?SpheresOfBalance wrote:Did I? And if I had, what, are you still the same old snot nosed kid you used to be? I also feel sorry for people that get older and do not grow (learn), Is one really responsible for what they did as a child, before they fully understood the folly of the construct? I see, that in fact, those that do not grow, were probably bought and sold, and as such, are just so much, a piece of meat. Can you say automaton?
I wouldn't know from experience, as I question everything, but that's basically the idea according to the 'dictionary.' But you gotta be careful, there's circles in them there pages that could form a vortex and swallow you whole.
But I agree with the snot-nosed kid thing as when I was one I understood that nationalism and the military were the tools of the capitalist pigs used to keep the system in place and pretty much only the lumpen-prole would join-up.
That's an extremely narrow view of the psyche's involved, but I expect no more from you. All you have to do is 'believe' you've crossed the finish line first and you've won.
I can, do you think you'll be walking with the amount of morphine needed for the pain of a terminal illnesses?So who said this was a race or a competition? Sequence matters not. I say great minds think alike? And you may be underestimating me, while you speak from your own perspective; Projection? But I acknowledge that we really can't say for certain at this point. But can you cay cocktail?
It would seem you are the queen of presumption, as if it's not gradual, and as if I'd have no help. How limited your world seems to be. Your points seem to fall flat on their face, that's the problem with people that think they know it all, they've forgotten that circumstance is continuously variable!![]()
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Fair point, the modern soldier can question orders but like the automaton they still carry them out or are you saying you were one of the admirable breed?SpheresOfBalance wrote:I wouldn't know from experience, as I question everything, but that's basically the idea according to the 'dictionary.' But you gotta be careful, there's circles in them there pages that could form a vortex and swallow you whole.
That's an extremely narrow view of the psyche's involved, but I expect no more from you. All you have to do is 'believe' you've crossed the finish line first and you've won.
It would seem you are the queen of presumption, as if it's not gradual, and as if I'd have no help. How limited your world seems to be. Your points seem to fall flat on their face, that's the problem with people that think they know it all, they've forgotten that circumstance is continuously variable!
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Barbara Brooks
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Everything that flows like a breeze from a purer world has reason. Truth is affirmed as the aspect of being, decides whether which is right or wrong.
Reason has two aspects, intention and actuality. Whereas knowledge is thinking, not doing , not producing anything. Consequently the opposition of activity. All thinking is oneness with self the principle of thought: thinking is reflection into self.
Sunk into the material world which takes us away from true knowledge giving up returning back to unknowing society before the of fullness of knowledge is received drop to the level of bewilderment. The characteristic feature of people is feeling the supreme wealth of being
Socrates who is considered the wisest person in the world from his youth onward was virtuous. He came to be flawless and all these virtues, knowledge, courage, temperance and good. became his nature. The world of knowledge is the power upon which to act rationally, either in public or private life.
Reason has two aspects, intention and actuality. Whereas knowledge is thinking, not doing , not producing anything. Consequently the opposition of activity. All thinking is oneness with self the principle of thought: thinking is reflection into self.
Sunk into the material world which takes us away from true knowledge giving up returning back to unknowing society before the of fullness of knowledge is received drop to the level of bewilderment. The characteristic feature of people is feeling the supreme wealth of being
Socrates who is considered the wisest person in the world from his youth onward was virtuous. He came to be flawless and all these virtues, knowledge, courage, temperance and good. became his nature. The world of knowledge is the power upon which to act rationally, either in public or private life.
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Arising_uk wrote:Fair point, the modern soldier can question orders but like the automaton they still carry them out or are you saying you were one of the admirable breed?SpheresOfBalance wrote:I wouldn't know from experience, as I question everything, but that's basically the idea according to the 'dictionary.' But you gotta be careful, there's circles in them there pages that could form a vortex and swallow you whole.
I don't necessarily want to be a leader or a follower. And I am not conceded. I'm not special at all. Just the mere fact that one supports their homes defense means you're in harms way, and if it's not just your home that you're protecting and you 'believe' that you're protecting all free people's homes (those that are the most similar to yours, those of your allies), as far as I'm concerned you're doing exactly that, despite all the political garbage that goes along with it. There's no telling if your boss is corrupt before a specific fact. And I believe it's extremely easy for you to sit there in your easy chair that England's freedom has ensured and speak from an anarchists perspective, but if your chair was sitting smack dab in the middle of an actual state of anarchy you'd be singing a different tune, or maybe you'd be someones meat. Hindsight is 20/20. Given the construct of governments that we ALL are a party to whether, unwittingly or otherwise, what choice does one have, if they want to have some idea of freedom; without being on someones menu. Sure it's a machine. All one can do is try and ensure that the one at the helm's psyche is sound; considering all. The machine is extremely huge and thus extremely hard to micro manage.
That's an extremely narrow view of the psyche's involved, but I expect no more from you. All you have to do is 'believe' you've crossed the finish line first and you've won.I thought we were talking about when we were snot-nosed kids? Not sure about this 'psyche' thing, just talking about those I knew who joined. Although there was one military brat who followed tradition but I've never heard any of them talk about 'saving the free world', much more cynical than that but I suppose the British and US military are different. Mainly due I guess to us having a welfare system and an essentially free higher education system so not so much need to join-up, other than wanting to fight that is.
If you're being sincere now, then it would seem I owe you an apology, because I took your attempt at insulting me as intended; that you would try and compare my youth with yours in a condescending way. So at this point I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Sorry, I came on so strong. But I stand by the fact that it's true that you can't bottle all perspectives in one container as then there in no distinction. And it would seem that you have yielded on this point.
It would seem you are the queen of presumption, as if it's not gradual, and as if I'd have no help. How limited your world seems to be. Your points seem to fall flat on their face, that's the problem with people that think they know it all, they've forgotten that circumstance is continuously variable!I hope that comforts you if diagnosed. So you are saying that you will take shrooms only if your mortality is brought home to you but you are essentially well? Well fear not, we are all in the condition of being in a terminal illness, its called life, so why not take the shrooms anyway?
My point is that I shall go out with a bang of colorful perception because I refuse to be weighted down by mankind's mundane visions of reality that are set to the tune of self serving control of his would be slaves, that in the end I DEMAND true freedom and shall have it.
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Barbara Brooks
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The philosopher is treated so grievous that no single thing on earth is comparable to it; therefore, to plead for the philosopher I recourse to a tale Socrates tells in the Republic. “Imagine,” he said, “ a fleet or a ship in which there is a captain who is taller and stronger than any of the crew, but he is a little deaf and has a similar infirmity in sight, and his knowledge of navigation is not much better. The sailors are quarrelling with one another about the steering --every one is of opinion that he has a right to steer, though he has never learned the art of navigation and cannot tell who taught him or when he learned, and will further assert that it cannot be taught, and they are ready to cut in pieces any one who says the contrary. They throng about the captain, begging and praying him to commit the helm to them; and if at any time they do not prevail, but others are preferred to them, they kill the others or throw them overboard, and having first chained up the noble captain's senses with drink or some narcotic drug, they mutiny and take possession of the ship and make free with the stores; thus, eating and drinking, they proceed on their voyage in such a manner as might be expected of them. Him who is their partisan and cleverly aids them in their plot for getting the ship out of the captain's hands into their own whether by force or persuasion, they compliment with the name of sailor, pilot, able seaman, and abuse the other sort of man, whom they call a good-for-nothing; but that the true pilot must pay attention to the year and seasons and sky and stars and winds, and whatever else belongs to his art, if he intends to be really qualified for the command of a ship, and that he must and will be the steered, whether other people like or not-the possibility of this union of authority with the steerer's talent has never seriously entered into their thoughts or been made part of their calling. Now in vessels that are in a state of mutiny and by sailors who are mutineers, how will the true pilot be regarded? Will he not be called by them a prater, a star-gazer, a good-for-nothing?”
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Although the governors of today are of a different stamp, they may be justly compared to the mutinous sailors, and the true helmsmen to those who are called by them good-for-nothings and stargazers.
The parable of philosophers having no honor in their society; their having honor would be far more extraordinary. The best of philosophy to be useless to the world could be right; but also attribute philosopher’s uselessness to the fault of those who will not use them, and not to philosophy.
The pilot should not humbly beg the sailors to be commanded by him believed Socrates that is not the order of nature; or 'the wise to go to the doors of the rich' --the ingenious author of this saying told a lie --but the truth is, that, when a person is ill, whether he be rich or poor, to the physician must go, and anyone who wants to be governed, to the philosopher who is able to govern.
Philosophy the noblest pursuit of al is not likely to be much esteemed by those of the opposite faction; not that the greatest and most lasting injury is done to her by her opponents, but by her own professing philosophers, the greater number of them are arrant rogues, and the best are useless And the reason why the good are useless is the corruption of the majority is unavoidable, and that this is not to be laid to the charge of philosophy.
True lovers of knowledge is always striving after true being that is their nature; philosophers will not rest in the multiplicity of individuality which is appearance only, but will go on the keen edge not blunted, nor force of desire be abate until he have attained the knowledge of the true nature of every essence by a sympathetic and kindred power in the soul, and by that power drawing near and mingling and becoming incorporate with very being, having begotten mind and truth, he will have knowledge and will live and grow truly, and then, and not till then, will philosophy cease from its travail.
The parable of philosophers having no honor in their society; their having honor would be far more extraordinary. The best of philosophy to be useless to the world could be right; but also attribute philosopher’s uselessness to the fault of those who will not use them, and not to philosophy.
The pilot should not humbly beg the sailors to be commanded by him believed Socrates that is not the order of nature; or 'the wise to go to the doors of the rich' --the ingenious author of this saying told a lie --but the truth is, that, when a person is ill, whether he be rich or poor, to the physician must go, and anyone who wants to be governed, to the philosopher who is able to govern.
Philosophy the noblest pursuit of al is not likely to be much esteemed by those of the opposite faction; not that the greatest and most lasting injury is done to her by her opponents, but by her own professing philosophers, the greater number of them are arrant rogues, and the best are useless And the reason why the good are useless is the corruption of the majority is unavoidable, and that this is not to be laid to the charge of philosophy.
True lovers of knowledge is always striving after true being that is their nature; philosophers will not rest in the multiplicity of individuality which is appearance only, but will go on the keen edge not blunted, nor force of desire be abate until he have attained the knowledge of the true nature of every essence by a sympathetic and kindred power in the soul, and by that power drawing near and mingling and becoming incorporate with very being, having begotten mind and truth, he will have knowledge and will live and grow truly, and then, and not till then, will philosophy cease from its travail.
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Socrates believed the worthy disciples of philosophy will be but a small remnant: perchance some noble and well-educated person, who in the absence of corrupting influences remains devoted to love of knowledge and truth or some lofty soul born in a poor city, contemns and neglects politics; and there may be a gifted few who leave the arts, and come to her; or peradventure there are some who are restrained by our friend Theages' bridle; for everything in the life of Theages conspired to divert him from philosophy; but ill-health kept him away from politics. Socrates own case of the internal sign is hardly worth mentioning, for rarely, if ever, has such a monitor been given to any other person.
Only a small class have tasted how sweet and blessed a possession philosophy is, and have also seen enough of the madness of the multitude; know that no politician is honest, nor is there any champion of justice at whose side they may fight and be saved. Such an one may be compared to a man who has fallen among wild beasts --he will not join in the wickedness of his fellows, but neither is he able singly to resist all their fierce natures, and therefore seeing that he would be of no use to the State or to his friends, and reflecting that he would have to throw away his life without doing any good either to himself or others, he holds his peace, and goes his own way. He is like one who, in the storm of dust and sleet which the driving wind hurries along, retires under the shelter of a wall; and seeing the rest of mankind full of wickedness, he is content, if only he can live his own life and be pure from evil or unrighteousness, and depart in peace and good-will, with bright hopes.
From the Republic V1
Only a small class have tasted how sweet and blessed a possession philosophy is, and have also seen enough of the madness of the multitude; know that no politician is honest, nor is there any champion of justice at whose side they may fight and be saved. Such an one may be compared to a man who has fallen among wild beasts --he will not join in the wickedness of his fellows, but neither is he able singly to resist all their fierce natures, and therefore seeing that he would be of no use to the State or to his friends, and reflecting that he would have to throw away his life without doing any good either to himself or others, he holds his peace, and goes his own way. He is like one who, in the storm of dust and sleet which the driving wind hurries along, retires under the shelter of a wall; and seeing the rest of mankind full of wickedness, he is content, if only he can live his own life and be pure from evil or unrighteousness, and depart in peace and good-will, with bright hopes.
From the Republic V1
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Barbara Brooks
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Knowledge gets degraded into something lifeless and inert, not known as an immanent living principle of this being nor is there any comprehension of how this entity its intrinsic and peculiar way of expressing and producing itself takes effect.
The very kernel of the anything always takes a survey of the whole, assumes a position above mere being about which does not see it at all.
The very kernel of the anything always takes a survey of the whole, assumes a position above mere being about which does not see it at all.
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Aristotle believed reason turns out to be an activity of the mind in accordance with virtue and felt that virtue was more valuable than good. “As Minerva fully armed springs forth from the head of Jupiter the mind alone is capable of assuring me what I see is good not merely an unconscious observer who perceives nothing more than present. They are unworthy have nothing akin to knowledge. The mind is merely my unconscious overseer perceives nothing more than present without any assistance of senses persevere until intelligence arrives at the perception of good.
Reason stored in memory or through the sight or touch, or of some other senses that were acquired before birth or at least the moment born. Knowledge, truth, beauty, justice, holiness and all which are stamped with the name of good.
He never left Greece. You can get the feel of the land in Phaedra’s when Socrates and Phaedra’s walk together outside the wall. They eventually sat in front of tallest plane tree where there was a gentle breeze and grass to lie on. Socrates and Phaedra are talked about the nourishment of truth and reason. Knowledge demands in the first place philosophers who are willing to exalt profound thought and eternal ideas. It has been only in modern times that philosophy, has been separated from science. Aristotle physics is far more philosophical then physics, it is only in modern times that philosophy and science have been separated. Philosophy is very closely united to nature and so to speak, is the ultimate and absolute truth of consciousness.
Reason stored in memory or through the sight or touch, or of some other senses that were acquired before birth or at least the moment born. Knowledge, truth, beauty, justice, holiness and all which are stamped with the name of good.
He never left Greece. You can get the feel of the land in Phaedra’s when Socrates and Phaedra’s walk together outside the wall. They eventually sat in front of tallest plane tree where there was a gentle breeze and grass to lie on. Socrates and Phaedra are talked about the nourishment of truth and reason. Knowledge demands in the first place philosophers who are willing to exalt profound thought and eternal ideas. It has been only in modern times that philosophy, has been separated from science. Aristotle physics is far more philosophical then physics, it is only in modern times that philosophy and science have been separated. Philosophy is very closely united to nature and so to speak, is the ultimate and absolute truth of consciousness.
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Barbara Brooks
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To awaken knowledge buried in the mind for many years. My book is substantial in character lifts the world out of life that is mere vhance and change into a being a citizen of the world.
To reach universal existence takes effort takes the pulse of he philosopher rightly educated. Knowledge is the most useful instrument.. Just the same as we learn to read we the eager to make them known
This universal being takes effect no doubt takes labor in attaining this stage of independence takes magnificence, concord, beauty, and good are pulse of the philosopher. If we want to do our work as philosophers in life everything shall flow like a gentle wind from a purer region. The mind rightly educated is the noble and good recognized and saluted philosopher.
Knowledge is a most effective instrument in the mind of a philosopher find their way imparting grace. Socrates believed music is just as knowledge, to be everywhere eager to make them known. Only when we know the notes exactly can we ever become musical and know the essential forms of temperance, courage, liberality, and magnificence. When our minds are harmonized with the fairest of sights to those who have an eye to see it. The fairest is always the loveliest and philosophers have this spirit of harmony are always in love with the loveliest.
To reach universal existence takes effort takes the pulse of he philosopher rightly educated. Knowledge is the most useful instrument.. Just the same as we learn to read we the eager to make them known
This universal being takes effect no doubt takes labor in attaining this stage of independence takes magnificence, concord, beauty, and good are pulse of the philosopher. If we want to do our work as philosophers in life everything shall flow like a gentle wind from a purer region. The mind rightly educated is the noble and good recognized and saluted philosopher.
Knowledge is a most effective instrument in the mind of a philosopher find their way imparting grace. Socrates believed music is just as knowledge, to be everywhere eager to make them known. Only when we know the notes exactly can we ever become musical and know the essential forms of temperance, courage, liberality, and magnificence. When our minds are harmonized with the fairest of sights to those who have an eye to see it. The fairest is always the loveliest and philosophers have this spirit of harmony are always in love with the loveliest.
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I am reporting you to PREVENTION OF CRUELTY
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You live in Cleveland I will call Prevention of Animal Cruelty and report to the officials of this organization your cruel displays here and I am not playing. The Newspaper would love it especial if you are someone big in the community.
