A Philosophy of Mind

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Arising_uk wrote:Thats because you are bonkers.
bonkers

Adjective.
1. informal or slang terms for mentally irregular


Thankyou...perhaps it takes such an irregularity to be truly wise.
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attofishpi wrote:Thankyou...perhaps it takes such an irregularity to be truly wise.
The bonkers may well think so.
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Arising_uk wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:At the time there was a cold war, between the Soviets and the Americans. The Soviets were considered the number ONE nuclear force in the WORLD! The Americans were considered number TWO!
:lol: And as we've subsequently found out your CIA info was pretty much bollocks. Much like your case against Iraq and Afghanistan - how do you think thats going to go now you've left? You also forget that you had all the nukes pointing at the Soviets long before they had any!
What have you been smoking, I have no CIA that I'm familiar with.
Now what were you saying about:
Arising_uk wrote:not in the interests of this 'free world'
I take it that you're saying that the interests of the UK were parallel to that of the Soviets, yeah Right! Yet another case of your presumption gone awry.
:lol: And yet when the Nazis were at our door where was the Yank? At home I think and if Jap had not attacked you'd have still been there.
Quit being obscene, my auto erotica is none of your business. I don't know Jap. I've always been here. You seriously got to get a clue.
I think you'd have a completely different opinion if you were around and could remember "The Blitz" and that was merely conventional, look to Hiroshima and Nagasaki to see what the Soviets could have done to your little Island during the cold war had it heated up. needless to say their would have been a good chance that you and I wouldn't be talking right now, and while you may find that comforting...
:lol: Who do you think actually saved us from the Nazis? 20,000,000 dead Soviets can't be wrong.
It certainly wasn't yourselves. The Americans were involved as well.

Ya think we'd have had all those nukes pointing at us if we'd not been your missile base?
It would seem that you're kind of dense, it was communism against capitalism, the last time I checked
My parents and grandparents remembered the Blitz and yet they still disliked the Yank.
That's nice, what the hell's a yank, you can't be talking about my auto erotica again? What do they think about blueberry pie?
And as to your question, you just want to place me in yet another of your boxes of presumption.[/color]
You still haven't said if you actually served or not? Saw combat?
You seem to be a little slow.
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attofishpi wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:look to Hiroshima and Nagasaki to see what the Soviets could have done to your little Island during the cold war had it heated up.
Only a gun-ho country like the US with a self presumption of superiority and righteousness would do an act like that...
I think I'll refer to you as Miss Cleo from now on. So the pup pays homage to colorful rags huh? Here fetch the stick, boy.

I do this thing with words...take the 's' out of stars and stripes and see what the US actually stands for. It would seem that the pup has a pup-tent.

Apparently the initial point blew right past you, you should pay more attention.
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lancek4 wrote:
attofishpi wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:look to Hiroshima and Nagasaki to see what the Soviets could have done to your little Island during the cold war had it heated up.
Only a gun-ho country like the US with a self presumption of superiority and righteousness would do an act like that...

I do this thing with words...take the 's' out of stars and stripes and see what the US actually stands for.
The US stassnds for 'us', which is really code for 'me me me me me all together'. More luxury and toys! Expansion into your lives. Now dammit, or well invade your country anyways and make more patriot acts ! Now shut up and buy things so I can be rich. Now now now!

Yea I know. Those fucking Europeans are assholes, aren't they!
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lancek4 wrote:... Oh, and all sorts of techniques are used in the effort to continue the discussion; such as leading statements, comedy, sarcasm, confrontation (including insult), playing dumb, and many others.

It is a human process of interaction and involvment with other human beings.

Oh and I only have padawan learners. No freinds.
Yeah me too, no friends!
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:What have you been smoking, I have no CIA that I'm familiar with.
Where do you think your information came from?
Quit being obscene, my auto erotica is none of your business. I don't know Jap. I've always been here. You seriously got to get a clue.
:lol: And still be there dealing with the Nazi would be the case if Jap had not invaded you.
It certainly wasn't yourselves. The Americans were involved as well.
And most of the British Empire as well but we'd still be on the beaches if the Nazis had had the Sixth Army.
It would seem that you're kind of dense, it was communism against capitalism, the last time I checked
Soviet Stalinism versus American Capitalism is my memory.

How did you reconcile your support for the fascist dictator in your defence of the 'free-world'? The secret police, the tortures, the disappeared, etc.
That's nice, what the hell's a yank, you can't be talking about my auto erotica again? What do they think about blueberry pie?
I thought you preferred apples? A Yank is a kind of American that you represent. If you prefer I'll use the updated limey version, spetic-tank.
You seem to be a little slow.
Point me to your answer?
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Arising_uk wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:What have you been smoking, I have no CIA that I'm familiar with.
Where do you think your information came from?
What the hell you talking about, What information?
Quit being obscene, my auto erotica is none of your business. I don't know Jap. I've always been here. You seriously got to get a clue.
:lol: And still be there dealing with the Nazi would be the case if Jap had not invaded you.
Jap didn't invade me, I don't know jap and why do you keep talking about my sex, leave it alone!!!
It certainly wasn't yourselves. The Americans were involved as well.
And most of the British Empire as well but we'd still be on the beaches if the Nazis had had the Sixth Army.
I don't know anything about that.
It would seem that you're kind of dense, it was communism against capitalism, the last time I checked
Soviet Stalinism versus American Capitalism is my memory.
Can you spell Ally? It would seem not!

How did you reconcile your support for the fascist dictator in your defence of the 'free-world'? The secret police, the tortures, the disappeared, etc.
What the hell are you talking about? I did no such thing, and I'm beginning to think you're delusional.
That's nice, what the hell's a yank, you can't be talking about my auto erotica again? What do they think about blueberry pie?
I thought you preferred apples? A Yank is a kind of American that you represent. If you prefer I'll use the updated limey version, spetic-tank.
You've either got to be doing drugs or you got me confused with someone else.
You seem to be a little slow.
Point me to your answer?
Silly girl, there is no answer, and I've said as much.
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When a person desires violently it prevails over reason, and scolds self, and is angry at the violence within self and that in is the struggle, which is like the struggle of factions in a society opposite reason; but for the passionate or spirited element not opposed to reason takes part with the desires which I believe that the likes you never observed occurring nor as I should imagine, in anyone else?


Then no intemperance or madness should be allowed to approach here. For you should be deemed guilty of coarseness, bad taste and lack of feeling.

The art of reason deals with the purpose of the world. This work is not mainstream reading but something of interest to all or what should be of interest to all. Between knowledge and truth midway is reason, it functions as a centrality between extremes.

Reason the absolute end of anything without it we cannot what we are beholding, or may have seen before but for a short time, or have lost the memory, which once was. Recollection because recalls things to mind in memory or through the sight or touch, or of some other senses. I am not only speaking of knowledge but ideal beauty, goodness, justice, religiousness, and all stamped with the name of essence.

Reason pure immaterial form of Nature is magnetism a highly astonishing phenomena to examine. If I take bits of unmagnified iron and put near magnetized iron bits I can observe movement; On one end the bits will attaché itself to the north of the piece of bits, while the other bits repel south, but both move only up to the middle point the magnet where attraction and repulsion disappears. Which acts along an ideal line. If any one wanted to show reason it is in magnetism. Highly astonishing phenomenon magnetism, for example, if we put bits of unmagnified iron bit near a magnetized iron, the bits movement is observed. At one end of each bit attach itself to the north pole of the magnet, and the other the South Pole movement is seen.


Reason forces self into quite different direction the same as magnetism. Here self seeks to become free is the free is the neutral point and can be compared with magnetism where the two poles one pointing north, while the other points south like magnetism.

Reason the absolute end of everything without we cannot know what we are beholding, or may have beheld before but only for a short time to remember, and lost the memory, which once was.
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:What the hell you talking about, What information?
That the Soviets were the more heavily armed than yourselves with respect to nukes. That you had nukes before the Soviets and you had them all pointing at them.
Jap didn't invade me, I don't know jap and why do you keep talking about my sex, leave it alone!!!
My apologies, are you not American and claim to have served in their armed forces?
I don't know anything about that.
For a military man you appear to have little knowledge of the history of your countries engagements?
Can you spell Ally? It would seem not!
:lol: Next your be telling me we have a 'special relationship' with America? My take is that allies come when the other is in need, not when it suits their purposes.
What the hell are you talking about? I did no such thing, and I'm beginning to think you're delusional.
So no idea of who and what your country supported during this 'cold war' you raised?
You've either got to be doing drugs or you got me confused with someone else.
Again my apologies, your words led to the impression that you were a septic-tank.
Silly girl, there is no answer, and I've said as much.
So no military service? What is it about Yanks and gender?
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Arising_uk wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:What the hell you talking about, What information?
That the Soviets were the more heavily armed than yourselves with respect to nukes. That you had nukes before the Soviets and you had them all pointing at them.
you're mistaken, I didn't do anything!
Jap didn't invade me, I don't know jap and why do you keep talking about my sex, leave it alone!!!
My apologies, are you not American
Now you got it!

and claim to have served in their armed forces?
I don't know anything about that.
For a military man you appear to have little knowledge of the history of your countries engagements?
So why the sudden relapse?
Can you spell Ally? It would seem not!
:lol: Next your be telling me we have a 'special relationship' with America? My take is that allies come when the other is in need, not when it suits their purposes.
Still pissed about the tea, I see!
What the hell are you talking about? I did no such thing, and I'm beginning to think you're delusional.
So no idea of who and what your country supported during this 'cold war' you raised?
Not my country! You must be looking in the mirror as you type this.
You've either got to be doing drugs or you got me confused with someone else.
Again my apologies, your words led to the impression that you were a septic-tank.
As I have previously asserted, I submit that it is you that led yourself to believe what ever it is that you believe, this and nothing more.
Silly girl, there is no answer, and I've said as much.
So no military service? What is it about Yanks and gender?
I have no problem with females, I absolutely love them. When they're young they can be the sweetest and cutest humans alive. And when they're adults, well I'll say no more, my sense of taste says it all, and I love to make it dance. ;-)
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:you're mistaken, I didn't do anything!
Does that include not defending the free world then?
Now you got it!
So what nation are you from?
So why the sudden relapse?
Where?
Still pissed about the tea, I see!
Nah! The Battle of Britain still rankles but since you're not a septic not an issue.
Not my country! You must be looking in the mirror as you type this.
So which country is yours?
As I have previously asserted, I submit that it is you that led yourself to believe what ever it is that you believe, this and nothing more.
So which nation do you belong to?
I have no problem with females, I absolutely love them. When they're young they can be the sweetest and cutest humans alive. And when they're adults, well I'll say no more, my sense of taste says it all, and I love to make it dance. ;-)
Does this explain your divorce then?
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Arising_uk wrote:
SpheresOfBalance wrote:you're mistaken, I didn't do anything!
Does that include not defending the free world then?
Of course I've done that,remember that's what started this particular round.
Now you got it!
So what nation are you from?
Well my family name is from Britain. I was born in the USA, I've lived in Australia, Kenya, Japan, Oman, Singapore, Korea, Philippines, & Diego Garcia BIOT.
So why the sudden relapse?
Where?
Still pissed about the tea, I see!
Nah! The Battle of Britain still rankles but since you're not a septic not an issue.
Not my country! You must be looking in the mirror as you type this.
So which country is yours?
I have no country
As I have previously asserted, I submit that it is you that led yourself to believe what ever it is that you believe, this and nothing more.
So which nation do you belong to?
I belong to no nation
I have no problem with females, I absolutely love them. When they're young they can be the sweetest and cutest humans alive. And when they're adults, well I'll say no more, my sense of taste says it all, and I love to make it dance. ;-)
Does this explain your divorce then?
Do you have special mushrooms you're eating, I want some. I am married, and have been for over 20 years. Look I know you don't know me at all, likewise. And I guess It's hard to remember what's been said in this forum, but I have never said I was divorced. I've been previously married, yes, but I don't think I've ever mentioned it. My wife and I are currently separated, but it has nothing to do with marital conflict and everything to do with having a job to pay for our home. We both can't wait until we can get together again but money is more important right now, of course we're hating it. Sometimes I think I'd rather go live in a cave as long as we can be together. I've always been extremely dedicated to the women I've been with, and have never lacked fidelity.

I was just joking.
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I forced myself up this morning to study. I studied for an hour or so nothing major but I at least studied. Oh what innumerable causes that cripple us and distract our reason. Just life itself. Purpose at times goes to war as though reason and self had two distinct objectives. The inner essence is ideal principle that pervades the whole inner and outer of the crystal nucleus molecule integrants attach themselves to the surface of the nucleus in a kind of successive array. That immaterial inner continuity becomes material through and through.
This is called law of crystallization, a silent activity sets, shapes and links together all the different parts of Inner self, as essential inner that comes forward with imperturbable truth.

Ground and universe, everything is in this totality of motion. The alteration of the seasons and of the day and night and the transition from waking and sleeping is life on the Earth. Even the reflection of the sun from a wall twenty yards away produce a distinct erection of the leaves or a passing cloud results their drooping. The stipules movement consists in an alternate erection and drooping. Here is sun on the point of dispersing into infinity, trying to escape pushing out from center cannot take flight and remains restless imprisoned within.

The factor of plant nature is it is in a specific place, which it cannot get walk away although plants unfolds itself within itself the movement is determined by light heat and air. Look at the potato plant sprouting in the basement creeping from distances of yards across the floor to where sunlight enters through a hole in the wall and the potato climbs up the wall as if it knew its way.

A freer, self-moving path is the mind traversing a series of our own form in nature. Not barren but self assurance a true phenomenon;
The natural talent for science those who have it are generally quick at every kind of knowledge. And even those not so quick and have arithmetical training become much quicker than they would otherwise have been.

Thank God knowledge comes on the scene as the instrument of reason and liberate purpose's pathway. Whatever is done and whatever happens there is reason, because nothing ever turns into anything. Reason even now as disregarded by self, maimed of its fair proportions still reason forces its way by natural vitality emerges into sunlight.

The idea of good is nothing short of the most finished picture. Little things elaborated how ridiculous! The highest truth worthy of attaining is good. Only by good, all things become useful and advantageous. The idea of good is the highest virtue. Everyone pursues reason and make it the end of all action shines with radiant knowledge.
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:Well my family name is from Britain. I was born in the USA, I've lived in Australia, Kenya, Japan, Oman, Singapore, Korea, Philippines, & Diego Garcia BIOT.
So American military brat then? Or much travelled US solider? But American none the less whatever the surname says.
I have no country
You say that at customs?
I belong to no nation
Where you living know?
Do you have special mushrooms you're eating, I want some. I am married, and have been for over 20 years. Look I know you don't know me at all, likewise. And I guess It's hard to remember what's been said in this forum, but I have never said I was divorced. I've been previously married, yes, but I don't think I've ever mentioned it. My wife and I are currently separated, but it has nothing to do with marital conflict and everything to do with having a job to pay for our home. We both can't wait until we can get together again but money is more important right now, of course we're hating it. Sometimes I think I'd rather go live in a cave as long as we can be together. I've always been extremely dedicated to the women I've been with, and have never lacked fidelity.

I was just joking.
My apologies, I've re-read and see that the separation was an economic issue. Understand those things so I wish you a speedy reunion.

Got any spare shrooms as its been decades since anyones mentioned those.
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