A Philosophy of Mind

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Bill Wiltrack wrote:.

I really appreciate the way SpheresOfBalance conducts himself.

His writing style is compelling in a philosophical way.

You can sense his being.

He reminds me of the member satyr.




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Thanks Bill, you're all too kind, as usual! I humbly submit that with me it's hit and miss. I sometimes feel that I ebb and flow with the tides and the moon. It's apparent if you've read some of my failings. I do not take 100 percent credit for anything in particular. I, like everyone, am merely the culmination of various bits of data that have come from those that have preceded me. I only hope that I may be capable of providing some sort of clarity in the placing of the pieces of life's puzzle.

PEACE, and Happy Holidays to you my friend and to 'all' you others out there suffering in some way. I wish there was something I could say that would comfort you.

Bill, your generosity seems to be contagious, Thanks again! ;-)

P.S. You're seemingly beaming with happiness with that warm cup o' joe in your hand as you seeming toast humanity. I hope it serves you well!
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:'Like this cup, you are full of your own opinions speculations, and presuppositions...' to you, it matters not what I say!
Of course it matters to me what you say, I'd not reply otherwise. So another yippie then.
We judge others against the foundation of belief that we stand upon, regardless of the basis.
I also use my identity, capabilities, behaviour and environment as a basis. I include the others acts as possible reason to judge.
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Bill Wiltrack wrote:He reminds me of the member satyr.
You mean he's going to be foul and abusive pretty soon?

How does he remind you of Satyr!? Point out what in his philosophy so far that the goatboy would agree with.

I think you just mean that he can write, I can understand how you find that impressive, especially when you think what you are reading agrees with your thinks.
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:
Bill Wiltrack wrote:.
I really appreciate the way SpheresOfBalance conducts himself.

His writing style is compelling in a philosophical way.

You can sense his being.

He reminds me of the member satyr.

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Thanks Bill, you're all too kind, as usual! I humbly submit that with me it's hit and miss. I sometimes feel that I ebb and flow with the tides and the moon. It's apparent if you've read some of my failings. I do not take 100 percent credit for anything in particular. I, like everyone, am merely the culmination of various bits of data that have come from those that have preceded me. I only hope that I may be capable of providing some sort of clarity in the placing of the pieces of life's puzzle.

PEACE, and Happy Holidays to you my friend and to 'all' you others out there suffering in some way. I wish there was something I could say that would comfort you.

Bill, your generosity seems to be contagious, Thanks again! ;-)

P.S. You're seemingly beaming with happiness with that warm cup o' joe in your hand as you seeming toast humanity. I hope it serves you well!
Oh! Look! How sweet, a love-in and how tasteful to hold it in a thread where one is trashing the originator. Get a room or better still PM each other your gushes.
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SpheresOfBalance with subtitles wrote: Thanks Bill, you're all too kind, as usual! I humbly submit that with me it's hit and miss. - I don't. I sometimes feel that I ebb and flow with the tides and the moon. - I'm a lunatic. It's apparent if you've read some of my failings. - You'll be lucky. I do not take 100 percent credit for anything in particular. I, like everyone, am merely the culmination of various bits of data that have come from those that have preceded me. - Oh! I'm so humble. I only hope that I may be capable of providing some sort of clarity in the placing of the pieces of life's puzzle. - Of course I can.

PEACE, and Happy Holidays to you my friend and to 'all' you others out there suffering in some way. I wish there was something I could say that would comfort you. - I think I just have.

Bill, your generosity seems to be contagious, Thanks again! ;-) - Smooch!

P.S. You're seemingly beaming with happiness with that warm cup o' joe in your hand as you seeming toast humanity. I hope it serves you well! - Bisous partout.
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Foghornleghorn thinker is great!

Alright - can we get back to insulting the originator of this thread ?
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As much as I hate to say it, It's sometimes funny watching someone scramble. :twisted: :lol:
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If only there were some community of feelings among people kind, however varying in different persons-I mean to say, if every person's feelings were peculiar and were not shared by the rest of species- how we could ever communicate our impressions to one another.

I make this remark because I perceive that we have a common feeling. For we are lovers both, and both of us have two loves apiece now, observe that we, with all our cleverness, do not venture to contradict any word or opinion but as it changes we change, backwards and forwards. For we have not the power to resist the words and ideas; silence me silence philosophy who is my love, for philosophy is always telling her what is always true.
Knowledge is not to be found anywhere in the field of opinion or subjective views, it is not a matter of clever turns of
phrases, allusiveness, or half utterances but consists in open, unambiguous, meaningful, and purposeful expression. Truth is the
idea and the idea alone grasps truth.

The cruelty, anger and superstition in the world would empty out of mind knowing that all one can do in this world is be good and that is the highest of all gifts of humanity.
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Barbara Brooks wrote:If only there were some community of feelings among people kind, however varying in different persons-I mean to say, if every person's feelings were peculiar and were not shared by the rest of species- how we could ever communicate our impressions to one another.

I make this remark because I perceive that we have a common feeling. For we are lovers both, and both of us have two loves apiece now, observe that we, with all our cleverness, do not venture to contradict any word or opinion but as it changes we change, backwards and forwards. For we have not the power to resist the words and ideas; silence me silence philosophy who is my love, for philosophy is always telling her what is always true.
Knowledge is not to be found anywhere in the field of opinion or subjective views, it is not a matter of clever turns of
phrases, allusiveness, or half utterances but consists in open, unambiguous, meaningful, and purposeful expression. Truth is the
idea and the idea alone grasps truth.

The cruelty, anger and superstition in the world would empty out of mind knowing that all one can do in this world is be good and that is the highest of all gifts of humanity.

Indeed. A gift.




The tit for tat, the manouvers we make in our ways, all of our own, of our own fears, of our own deeply kept strengths, of our guards, by which we move out in hope of making contact, of acheiving communion, with another -

This is what truely makes being human wonderful.


Now, who left out the fried fish all night and forgot to clean the pans?

The lysol aint gonna cut this stench.

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Barbara Brooks wrote:If only there were some community of feelings among people kind, however varying in different persons-I mean to say, if every person's feelings were peculiar and were not shared by the rest of species- how we could ever communicate our impressions to one another.

I make this remark because I perceive that we have a common feeling. For we are lovers both, and both of us have two loves apiece now, observe that we, with all our cleverness, do not venture to contradict any word or opinion but as it changes we change, backwards and forwards. For we have not the power to resist the words and ideas; silence me silence philosophy who is my love, for philosophy is always telling her what is always true.
Knowledge is not to be found anywhere in the field of opinion or subjective views, it is not a matter of clever turns of
phrases, allusiveness, or half utterances but consists in open, unambiguous, meaningful, and purposeful expression. Truth is the
idea and the idea alone grasps truth.

The cruelty, anger and superstition in the world would empty out of mind knowing that all one can do in this world is be good and that is the highest of all gifts of humanity.
The problem can sometimes be that:

The omniscient perspective

"By far the most common problem in discourse since the Enlightenment is the assumption of the existence of a God's eye view. That is, assuming that society can select a single perspective and apply it to all events, without needing to take into account the varying point of view of many cognitive beings moving through time and the fusion of this into one, omniscient, unified, perception of what "is". E Prime is a proposed solution to this problem in the field of General Semantics. This objective perspective, as opposed to all other subjective points of view, is also what Georg Lukács refers to with the concept of "totality". Writers and critics of narrative prose call this view the omniscient narrator, who appears to know everything about the story being told, including what all the characters are thinking, and usually speaks in the third person."

-Wikipedia - subject-object problem.-
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lancek4 wrote:Foghornleghorn thinker is great!

Alright - can we get back to insulting the originator of this thread ?
Great minds think alike, yadda, yadda, yadda!
Stroke it, stroke it, stroke, stroke!
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Stroke yourself.
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Barbara Brooks wrote:Stroke yourself.
Barbara, You're probably looking for a scapegoat about now, so help yourself to me. But the "stroke it" bit was in reference to:

"Foghornleghorn thinker is great!"

NOT

"Alright - can we get back to insulting the originator of this thread ?"

I would think it would be self evident to such an awesome philosopher of mind. But I'm obviously incorrect!

Or maybe it was simply, 'birds' of a feather!
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SpheresOfBalance wrote:
Barbara Brooks wrote:Stroke yourself.
Barbara, You're probably looking for a scapegoat about now, so help yourself to me. But the "stroke it" bit was in reference to:

"Foghornleghorn thinker is great!"

NOT

"Alright - can we get back to insulting the originator of this thread ?"

I would think it would be self evident to such an awesome philosopher of mind. But I'm obviously incorrect!

Or maybe it was simply, 'birds' of a feather!
Yes; I understood that jjab was for me. :).
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So hey Barb, it seems you do have a lot of bvook stuff crammed into that brain of yours, and indeed it appears you are quite fluent in such discourse that you are probbably a good orator.
Because it seems that is what you do here is give us speeches, like you are standing on a pulpit preaching the good news of the 'books' in eloquence and poetry.

Why? Why here, I mean?

If you know everything, why do you feel it necessary to preach it to a bunch of folks who obviously are going to give you crap for it along with chalenging your propositions, and character where we do not feel you are listening ? Are you a glotton for punishment?
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