A Philosophy of Mind

Is the mind the same as the body? What is consciousness? Can machines have it?

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Barbara Brooks
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Knowledge just as art takes a considerable amount of time and discipline As Socrates tells of the charioteer who drives a pair of winged horses into the sky; one of them is reason and the other not. The driving of them both gives a great deal of trouble to the charioteer and will fall down if fed upon ignorance and meanness but if fed on knowledge, beauty, and goodness soars upward.

Those who know will always know best. Then before we see or hear we must have knowledge beforehand any action or intention. Those who intend to move in pursuit of what interests them, or what should interest them has knowledge.

Knowledge is termed recollection because it recalls things to mind in memory or through the sight or touch, or of some other senses. I am not speaking only of knowledge but of beauty, goodness, justice, religiousness, and all stamped with the name of essence.

Reason the prey of outside influences attacking it and trying to drive it on into alien and distant conditions. Being aware of our motion is the path of doubt or the road of despair against unthinking sluggishness agitates disturbs laziness.

Knowledge the instrument of reasons the bare empty path of intentions. Knowledge comes on the scene and liberates the pathway of reason and carry out intention rises out into a conscious mind.


We cannot have pure reason, but we can make the nearest approach to it and remain pure until the hour when reason arrives.

Hegel believed this is called moral justification. This is not like happiness or good fortune, happiness implies no more than some sort of immediate existence whereas well-being is abstract and as appertaining to a single particular action.


Purpose is looked upon as a path, or more so properly speaking, the highway of anguish, the doubts of always seeing nothing in the end. Nothing is only in fact when taken as nothing; it is thus an empty nothing.


Socrates said the ignorant do not have knowledge because they are too busy looking down and their heads stooping to the earth, their pleasures are mixed with pains.
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The fault of being false makes it impossible knowing and not knowing the face of a friend or the face of an enemy. For they cannot judge what is figurative and what is fact and anything received in mind is to likely become indelible and unalterable, thus here should be where there is most important virtuous thinking.

I myself believe if I knew what I was talking about declaring truth on matters that is so honored and loved among us who love truth.

The most gifted person can pass into an evil state, misbehaving in a ridiculous manner compelled to fight about the images or the shadows of images because they have never yet seen what good is.

Then no intemperance or madness should be allowed to approach here, coarseness and bad taste should be restricted because that manner turns to lack of feeling.

Socrates believed that all seeds or germs whether vegetable or animal, when they fail to meet with proper nutriment, or climate, or soil, in proportion to their vigor are all the more sensitive to the want of a suitable environment, for wrongdoing is evil a greater enemy to what is good than to what is not.

There is always some powerful cause that try to destroy good, wealth, rank, and connections, you know that sort of thing they all have a corrupting and distracting the highest gifts of humanity.

Some of the finest natures, the most gifted minds when they are ill educated, become ruined by bad education rather than from any kind of violence. In the material world following the course, those materials take us away from humanity drop to the level of lost being. Self absolute characteristic constitutes sensation is the supreme wealth of being because everything is reduced to it, Little things are elaborated how ridiculous we should not think the highest truth worthy of attaining the highest accuracy in order that they may appear in their full beauty and utmost clearness.

What is this highest knowledge? The idea of good the highest knowledge, and that all other things become useful and advantageous only by any one’s use of this. Every soul pursues truth and makes the end of all their action. The mind is like the eye: when resting upon truth and being shine, perceives and understands and radiant with intelligence; truth may be deemed to be like good, but not the good; the good has a place of honor yet higher.

The mind, moves spontaneously towards truth of everything, being the power of good memory, and quick to learn, noble, gracious, and friend of philosophy, justice, courage, temperance. This is the philosopher’s natural force. Socrates believed, all germs or seeds, whether vegetable or animal, when they fail to meet with proper nutriment or climate or soil, in proportion to their vigor, are even more sensitive to the want of a suitable environment, to what is good than what is not.

Can anyone help imitating that with which you hold reverential? I mean first look at absolute and again at the human copy; and mingle and temper the various elements of life into the image of self; and thus self will conceive according to that image. Homer calls this the form and likeness of God.

There are two forces, in which mind uses the figures given by images; can only be hypothetical, and the higher mind passes out of opinion, and goes on until they arrives at last in a consistent manner good.
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In society, which is ordered with a view to the good of the whole, should be most likely to find Justice.

In the ill-ordered society injustice: and, having found both which of the two is the happier not piecemeal happy a sort of happiness which will make citizens anything but guardians; for too anyone can be clothe in royal apparel, and set crowns of gold on their head also might be allowed to repose on sofas, and feast by the fireside, passing round the wine while conveniently at hand working only as much as they like; imagine in this way might make every class happy-and then, as you imagine, the whole State would be happy.

Socrates believed enjoying a life of revelry, not doing their duty to society and look to society greatest happiness, are compelled or induced to do work in the best way. And thus, the whole society will grow up in a noble order, and a proportion of happiness which nature assigns.

If you give the wealth, power, or persons of the one to the others, you will always have a great many friends and not many enemies. And the society continues to prevail will be the greatest of society, I mean in deed and truth.
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Socrates composed for future leaders another and a better life than that of leaders today, believed then we may have a well-ordered society, the State which offers this will have leaders who are truly rich in virtue and wisdom, which are the true blessings of life.

Whereas leaders went to public office, poor and hungering after their own advantage, order there can never be; only fighting civil and domestic broils which arise and are the ruin of the leaders and of the whole government.

The child who knows nothing starts with a clean slate but not knowing anything except anything at all given. Passion, feeling, and self seeking interests all around, until philosophy gentle hand came to aid and lift up to knowledge.

The mind is literally entangled in sensuous aims buried in outlandish slough, dreaming and slumbering in life, much like today. But the mind can be re-illuminated, in everyone there is other pursuits lose an eye of mind spirit that oppressed by want, hard driven by nature.

What knowledge is we need to turn back to the epoch of philosophy which took place thousands of years ago, an revival as such is recommended specially of the ancient philosophy.



The culture of today has fallen into such disunity it becomes the task of philosophy to undo it and reawaken mind spirit. This was so with the Ionic people when there was a decline in the Ionic states of Asia Minor. In Rome expanded in the decline of the republic. It was also in the Middle Ages when the Teutonic life acquired a new form.

Reconciliation follows destruction thus philosophy is contemporaneous with institutions, forms of government, social morality and societal life, customs and enjoyments.
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The comprehensive mind is always the dialectical one, the questioning spirit who asks what is fair and honorable, People are driven into believing that nothing is honorable any more than dishonorable, or just and good any more than the reverse, and so of all the ideas which are most valued ceases to think them honorable and natural as heretofore, and he fails to discover the true, can he be expected to pursue any life other than that of a flatter?
Socrates believed all this is very natural in students of dialectic in introducing them to dialectic a danger of tasting the dear delight too early; for youngsters, when they first get the taste in their mouths, argue for amusement, and are always contradicting and refuting others in imitation of those who refute them; like puppy-dogs, Socrates believed they rejoice in pulling and tearing at all who come near them. And when they have made many conquests and received defeats at the hands of many, they violently and speedily get into a way of not believing anything which they believed before, and hence, not only they, but philosophy and all that relates to it is apt to have a bad name with the rest of the world.

When older the dialectic mind will no longer be guilty of such insanity; will imitate the dialectician who is seeking for truth, and not wrong, and does not contradict for the sake of amusement; moderation increases in age knowing that all one can do in this world is good and this is the highest of all gifts of humanity.
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First shadows and then reflections is the intellectual world through the medium of sight or touch, or of another senses. From the senses derives all that sensible things' aim at. What is great and what is small arises from the distinction of the visible and the intelligible.

Arithmetic and calculation lead the mind rise out of the sea of change and lay hold of truth, not as amateurs, not like merchants or retail-traders with only a view to buying or selling but seen with mind only,

What is great and what is small arises when there is some contradiction where one is the reverse of one. This involves the conception of plurality, thought begins to be aroused, and mind is perplexed wanting to arrive at a decision, which asks, “What is absolute one?”

For example, the solar system has independent existence and stars and planets are related to each other, but only according to space and time, not by some physical nature.

The mind too is like the sun and in it the stars and planets are related to each other according to space and time, the sun holds the stars and planets in one body same as the mind feels, perceives, reasons, wills and thinks. Preservation of self in the face of pressure from the outside impact mind sounds an accord, announces spiritual nature because the air inside me vibrates.


We sleep to rest our organism within and we wake to gather food and build. Life is this alternating fluctuation between these two determinations, sleeping and waking.

In fact animal nature is entangled with the outside world makes the organism hostile, cannot come into self, for the organism is precisely the mediation involving self with outer world and return into self.

This is a double determination: first, the rejecting by the organic structure, its hostility towards the outer world and second, the reproduction, or self-preservation the affirming of self.
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In everyone there is a lawless wild-beast that peers out in daily life stripped of attire. Therefore, we need to watch over the many-headed monster like a good farmer, fostering and cultivating it with the gentle qualities and prevent the wild ones from growing and make the lion a friend.


Socrates believed the most important for those who want to see truth must take a longer and more circuitous way for nothing short of the most finished picture should satisfy.

All things become useful and advantageous through good. The mind perceives and understands and is radiant with intelligence when resting upon truth deemed to be like good but not; good has a place of honor yet higher.
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Every being is distinguished from another "being"; is simple essentially thought.

Being is thinking . In virtue, being is self-identity or pure abstraction, it is the abstraction of self from itself, in other words, is self its own want of same with self or dissolution the process of becoming.

The principle point of knowledge is not a kind of dogmatism of mere assertion and not mere assurance,or the dogmatism of mere self-certainty.

Rather, knowledge leads to order and philosophy prevails, masters of self, orderly, enslaving the vicious and emancipating the virtuous.

Moral consciousness has two aspects duty and actuality as something ideal and knowledge as merely thinking, not doing, is by way of thoughts not producing.

Consequently pure thinking belongs to existence thus, anything that exists thinks on its own account is essentially being.

‘Since only possible actions, and not impossible ones, can ever have been done in the
past or the present, and since things which have not occurred, or will not occur, also
cannot have been done or be going to be done, it is necessary for the political, the
forensic, and the ceremonial speaker alike to be able to have at their command
propositions about the possible and the impossible, and about whether a thing has or has
not occurred, will or will not occur.’ “Aristotle wrote,”

Aristotle wrote ‘all men, in giving praise or blame, in urging us to accept or reject
proposals for action, in accusing others or defending themselves, attempt not only to
prove the points mentioned but also to show that the good or the harm, the honor or
disgrace, the justice or injustice, is great or small, either absolutely or relatively; and
therefore it is plain that we must also have at our command propositions about greatness
or smallness and the greater or the lesser-propositions both universal and particular.
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I love putting these thoughts together making them one and the same truth. It is like a jigsaw puzzle that comes to light. True knowledge, colorless, formless, intangible essence visible only to mind, is the pilot of the soul. This divine intelligence, being pure knowledge, and the intelligence of every soul which is capable of receiving the food proper to it, rejoices at beholding truth is replenished and made good,

Socrates believed there is a law of Destiny but when one is unable to follow, and fails to behold the truth, and through some ill-hap sinks beneath the double load of forgetfulness and error. The soul that has seen most of truth is a philosopher, or artist, or some musical and loving nature; that which has seen truth


Just as chance had arranged what is taught remains in mind it to consider each in particular thus should borrow all that is best in philosophy and correct the errors of the one by the other. If not perfectly list everything, which give objectivity and exercises reason, at least as good.

Most people understand philosophy, capable of being learned because everybody possesses it. Philosophy is offered to everyone is an open door made plain for all.


Through examining and reexamining, filtering and equating until an inward sound proclaims no possibility of doubt is the philosopher.

Descartes although thought it strange to say that he knew and understood seemed to him ambiguous he examined little by little raising mind t to the highest possible point everything.

Although philosophy can be reduced to silence by noisy opposition, said Hunter S Thompson, "You have to get your knowledge of life from somewhere. You have to know the material you're writing about before you alter it."

I am drawn to the love of knowledge, absorbed in the pleasures like in a stream drawn off into another channel. I cannot help striving after the noblest pursuit of all. I am on a keen edge, blunted, will not abate only until I have attained reason; A body which is moved from without is mindless; but that which is moved from within has a mind. Beauty, wisdom, goodness, and the like nourish the mind.

Good is one of the highest gifts of humanity and we are ourselves responsible for the state of its character is in part due to that kind of success.

Johannes Kepler discovered the law of motion built upon, the observations of Tycho Brahe, upon the hypotheses of Nicolaus Copernicus and William Gilbert. In the strictest sense Kepler divided celestial motion into three parts, the cometary or sunspots, the lunary as the moon and planetary rule cohesion is the relationship of one and another forms that turns and expresses dwelling together. Gravitation is motion partly conditioned and partly free occurring at the same time is the lunary motion. The cosmos is a centripetal movement, is called come called the centrifugal motion, and together constitutes t planetary motion.

It took Kepler twenty-seven years for to determine the law of motion using the celestial heaven as his relativity. He had complete faith that in the heavenly bodies reason must be there, through this faith arrived at these laws. His works are among the most beautiful, purest and least tangled with diversity elements, to be found.
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Leibniz, Spinoza and Descartes were all philosophers versed in mathematics as well as Descartes and Leibniz contributed greatly to science as well. As inventor of the Cartesian coordinate system, Descartes a French philosopher and writer founded analytic geometry, the bridge between algebra and geometry, uses deductive reasoning crucial to the discovery of infinitesimal calculus and analysis. Leibniz occupies a prominent place in the history of mathematics and the history of philosophy developed the infinitesimal calculus and mathematical notion still used. He was one of the most prolific inventors in the field of mechanical calculators.

The father of science is Thales, (c. 610 BC – c. 546 BC) master teacher in Ionia now modern Turkey. Thales believed everything begins with water created philosophy by inquiring by stepping back from nature no pre determine thinking. These ideas were contrary to the viewpoint of the world. He was the first person known to have studied electricity. Was hailed as the first true mathematician and mathematical discovery has been attributed to Thales.

He came up with the first known example of options trading became rich. He by predicting the weather and a good harvest for a particular year bought all the olive presses in Miletus to demonstrate to his fellow Milesians he could use his intelligence to enrich himself but used the time to predict the solar year, should have 365 days.
Thales was tremendously influential in pre-Socratic times and had many who followers who called him "Father of Science" He rejected mythological explanations for knowledge for an example described earth to be cylindrical and poised in space and is reputed to have taught that life began in water and that humans originated from fish and that everything commences in water

One of the Seven Sages of Greece Thales was emulated and admired wrote what is on every man's lips: “Know thyself”,

Bertrand Russell a British philosopher c. 1872 thought, "Western philosophy begins with Thales the first philosopher and mathematician. Gives advice, "Know thyself," which is was engraved on the front façade of the Oracle of Apollo in Delphi.”

The ancient Greek historian Herodotus who lived in the 5th century BC (c. 484 BC – c. 425 BC) quoted Thales several times. According to Herodotus Greeks, “when Croesus went to battle against Cyrus and had difficulty in passing over the river Halys, Thales, who accompanied the army, diverted the river by a trench, which he made in the form of a crescent behind the camp, so that it could then be forded. Diogenes (1. 25) says further of him as regards his relations to his country, that he restrained the men of Miletus from allying themselves with Croesus when he went against Cyrus, and that hence, after the conquest of Croesus, when the other Ionic States were subdued by the Persians, the inhabitants of Miletus alone remained undisturbed. Diogenes records, moreover. He soon withdrew his attention from the affairs of the State and devoted himself entirely to science.” measured the height of the pyramids by shadow — by taking the relation borne by the height of a man to his shadow. The terms of the proportion are: as the shadow of a man is to the height of a man, so is the shadow of a pyramid to its height. If this were something new to the Egyptians, they must have been very far back in the theory of geometry. He foretold of a coming eclipse of the sun that happened exactly on the day of the battle between the Medians and Lydians, and that Thales ascribed the rising of the Nile to the contrary Etesian winds, which drove back the waters. We have some further isolated instances of, and anecdotes about his astronomical knowledge and works.

A rare person of genius Thales was at any time. There were scholars at the time that considered knowledgeable about the sun, mountains, earth, sea, and rivers as independent powers and revered as gods. The Greeks considered the origin and nature of the world through myths of anthropomorphic gods and heroes, such as, lightning or earthquakes were phenomena attributed to actions of the gods. They considered the origin and nature of the world through myths of anthropomorphic gods and heroes, such as, lightning or earthquakes were phenomena attributed to actions of the gods.
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The reason for a thing done is purpose the absolute end of anything without it we cannot see what we are beholding, may have seen before but for a short time, or have lost the memory, which once was.


Reason is all truth and all that is present of truth. Then from the senses then is derived knowledge, and before we see, hear, or perceive anything, we must have knowledge.

We have an innate practical relationship with purpose. The migration of animals, of fishes, sleep, and one falls asleep without setting about doing so. We sleep out of instinct; the same is true of waking also gather food out of instinct. Even certain animals are forewarned of the weather, spiders and frogs are weather profits, and at a time of earthquakes, birds take flight.

This is all instinct the same as urge of the lion is not only the sight of the pry that awakens the desire for it there is no choice. Even lilies, willows, fig trees have their own particular bug or insect whose nature is restricted to each plant. Instinct as in building resting place is directed to reason.

Hegel believed purpose is the imperturbable certainty of truth, pure conscious being, while all the time tumbles into the false, or the sensuous finite. Since reason is in the sense the abstract "mine", and the "other" is an outside indifferent to mine, there is here affirmed reason. This idealism falls into such a contradiction because it asserts the abstract ideal of reason to be truth. Consequently, truth is not strictly the reality of reason at all, whereas reason all is intended to be all truth.

Purpose remains a restless search, which in its very process of seeking declares it utterly impossible to have the satisfaction of finding.

But reason not so inconsequential is driven on to raise its formal certainty into actual truth, and give concrete filling to the empty "mine". Unwilling to descend again to those fettered toils and honors have in our power to live a better?

This endeavor effectuate in the whole society, connecting the citizens together; by necessity, and by persuasion, making them share the advantage with one another with which they are severally able to benefit a society.
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Fuck you Bill and the horse you came in on!
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That's the Barbara I know!


Strip away all the verbosity and we touch A. Real. Live. Emotion.




Thank you for being there.




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Barbara Brooks wrote:If curiousness makes a philosopher, you will find many will have the name but they only have a sense of philosophy not absolute philosophy and if when they are led to the true knowledge of philosophy, they will not pursue it. Why, because they would rather put the imitation in the place of the real. These curious minds are welcome to any knowledge, which they may have and we rejoice at them. But philosophy is magnificence of the mind spectator of all time and all existence surely temperate, just and gentle, and good memory. They are quick to learn - noble, gracious, the friend of truth, justice, courage, and temperance.To declare truth about matters of such high interest, to carry on the argument when I myself am only a uncertain inquirer and fear that I shall miss the truth where I have most need to be sure of my footing, and not be dragged down by mere opinion.
 
Philosophers you may find many will have the name but they only have a sense of philosophy not absolute philosophy and if when they are led to the true knowledge of philosophy, they will not pursue it. Why, because they would rather put the imitation in the place of the real. These curious minds are welcome to any knowledge, which they may have and we rejoice at them.
Even tho you repeated the same paragraph twice, I have to say that this post makes the most sense I have read of you so far. But then you add all the other blabber and I wonder if this one was a mistake.
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