What's stopping us from seeing the truth?

[SpheresOfBalance]

What can I say, Bill, you're the space cowboy, and you never run out of it.

Look Bob I'm not one to profit at someones expense, but as far as I'm concerned you're kind of asking for it. Start your own topic and see how many people are interested. Build it and they may come, but don't be obnoxious and try and derail someone elses thread. If you are seriously interested in this topic, then I seriously expect you to seriously contribute. Please do every one a favor and keep your commercials in their own thread.

Thank You!

And,

Happy Holidays! (I hope I'm not to early, 1 wk & 3 days to go)

Listen, pal, this thread is about truth, and I know more about truth than anybody on this planet. Why don't you take a look at liar's poker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liars_poker), and then take a look at the game of Ouzo (http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/ouzo-prophecy.pdf). Liar's poker is a watered-down version of Ouzo promulgated by Satan, like an attenuated virus that Satan inoculates people with to keep them from catching the real thing, O my brother in tribulation!

I think I finally understand why there are those that are not cutting you any slack.

Don't you understand that if one looks hard enough at any particular set of numbers they can find some sort of meaning in them. You're simply looking at them after the fact. With all the names there are in the world I bet you that if you used the number associated with each letter's position in the alphabet and performed various mathematical functions, eventually you'd come up with a name that yielded 666. So then if that name happened to be David would that indicate that all the Davids in the world were Satan's minions. No, because I bet if you did the exact same thing with Robert M. Evenson but using a different set of functions you'd find that his name equaled 666 as well, but in that case it would indicate that he sucks Satan's horn and swallows the ejaculate.

Goodness Gracious Man, Grow Up! Relationships in this context of yours is arbitrary.

I have an idea bob why don't you work on that. Find out what name/names equate to 666 using various mathematical function. Oh I know make it 6 operations. Or if you really want to sell it, make it 666 operations, I'm sure you can do it.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Bob you do realize that we can ignore you right?

Or we could play with the little puppet or is that parrot. Either way, same thing!

Polly want a cracker?

[lancek4]

What can I say, Bill, you're the space cowboy, and you never run out of it.

Look Bob I'm not one to profit at someones expense, but as far as I'm concerned you're kind of asking for it. Start your own topic and see how many people are interested. Build it and they may come, but don't be obnoxious and try and derail someone elses thread. If you are seriously interested in this topic, then I seriously expect you to seriously contribute. Please do every one a favor and keep your commercials in their own thread.

Thank You!

And,

Happy Holidays! (I hope I'm not to early, 1 wk & 3 days to go)

Listen, pal, this thread is about truth, and I know more about truth than anybody on this planet. Why don't you take a look at liar's poker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liars_poker), and then take a look at the game of Ouzo (http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/ouzo-prophecy.pdf). Liar's poker is a watered-down version of Ouzo promulgated by Satan, like an attenuated virus that Satan inoculates people with to keep them from catching the real thing, O my brother in tribulation!

It si difficult to take you seriously, but it appears you are serious so...

Perhaps a second but somewhat more substabtiated silly example of truth (but this one admits fully its silliness):

Have you guys ever heard of 'The Church of the Sub-Genious" ? Reverend Bob Dobbs ? Its classic ! Just Google either of those key terms.
So great.(

(And I tend to agree with SOBs last posts; State your point Bob, instead of preaching! Tell us about your take on what is keeping us from seeing the truth. )

[lancek4]

"The evil that lurks in the minds of men is manifested in the collective evil of the beast. Understand the man and you cannot be deceived by his institutions."
-From "The Ouzo Prophecy" (http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/ouzo-prophecy.pdf)

You know, when you first posted this link in another thread I think, I thought it was just an interesting way to preface the game. But now ( I think - never can be too sure about such things over the web) I see that you are insane.

Or, if you will, you have 'been made sense' about this stuff, such that it is Absolutely True for you. Indeed SOB, here I can readily agree with your 'distortion' proposotion; here is a, albeit extreme and obvious, perfect example.

But I would suggest that this type of distortion is because of an over reliance apon the Object. Here is an individual who is in such fear of himself that he/it drastically casts or 'projects' him/itself away from the reality of him/itself and onto or into the Object, such that the exremety 'overlaps' and creates an 'absolution' out of an odds-and-ends scheme of objects.

[SpheresOfBalance]

What can I say, Bill, you're the space cowboy, and you never run out of it.

What I meant was that I found extreme humor in his responses to your BS. Bill had me practically rolling on the floor with this bit:

Sherry already won Homecoming Queen.

Bob I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you were the object of the laughter.

Bills words just severely hit my funny bone. I must have needed it, I've had problems looking at the bright side as of late. It sometimes seems that I'm just waiting for death to envelop me, though I don't necessarily want to go. Thanks Bill!

[bobevenson]

Bills words just severely hit my funny bone. I must have needed it, I've had problems looking at the bright side as of late. It sometimes seems that I'm just waiting for death to envelop me, though I don't necessarily want to go. Thanks Bill!

If you look to Bill for your salvation, you'll be looking a long time, O my brother in tribulation!

[bobevenson]

"The evil that lurks in the minds of men is manifested in the collective evil of the beast. Understand the man and you cannot be deceived by his institutions."
-From "The Ouzo Prophecy" (http://church-of-ouzo.com/pdf/ouzo-prophecy.pdf)

I see that you are insane.

"Insane" is a legal term, O my brother in tribulation!

[SpheresOfBalance]

Bills words just severely hit my funny bone. I must have needed it, I've had problems looking at the bright side as of late. It sometimes seems that I'm just waiting for death to envelop me, though I don't necessarily want to go. Thanks Bill!

If you look to Bill for your salvation, you'll be looking a long time, O my brother in tribulation!

Speak for yourself Bob.

By the way you can stick your religious crap where the sun doesn't shine. Unless of course you care to actually contribute to the topic at hand. I guess you don't have much of your own material huh? Why can't we see the truth Bob? At least I'm honest Bob. I admit that I don't know. It would seem that you're to frightened to admit it, so you buy into someone elses faith. Does not knowing scare you, Bob?

[bobevenson]

State your point Bob, instead of preaching! Tell us about your take on what is keeping us from seeing the truth.

As it says at the top of http://church-of-ouzo.com, "The pathway of evil in every society flows through an institutional grid of religious, cultural and social values."

[bobevenson]

I guess you don't have much of your own material huh? Why can't we see the truth Bob? You buy into someone elses faith.

Have you taken leave of your senses? I'm the new guru, the modern messiah, the wizard of Ouzo, O my brother in tribulation!

[SpheresOfBalance]

I guess you don't have much of your own material huh? Why can't we see the truth Bob? You buy into someone elses faith.

Have you taken leave of your senses? I'm the new guru, the modern messiah, the wizard of Ouzo, O my brother in tribulation!

Of course you are Bob, Of curse you are!

Wow, so this is what happens to someone that for over nine years unsuccessfully tries to sell swamp land to people that know better.

Bob do everyone a favor and go work on some more math problems as I have suggested. I'm sure it will make your case that much stronger. I'm almost convinced, just a little more math evidence and I'll be sold!

[Arising_uk]

OK Arising_uk, All I'm saying is that truth is all the actually exists thus is absolute but that since we are in an ever changing universe the absolute changes with the universe. Here's an example (keep in mind that the example is not to be taken seriously, but it's point is): There's this asteroid in deep space that both you and I find in our university observatories. You claim that it's pink and I claim that it's blue. We both have PhD's in Astrophysics but you have a little better clout and notoriety such that the community accepts your evidence as the truth and not mine. twenty years later we advance to the point of being capable of capturing the asteroid and bringing it to earth, we do and find that in fact it is green. We then would know that what I had said (blue) and you had said (pink) and everybody believed as truth was in fact merely belief and that the truth was that it was green because green is how it "actually existed." (Keep in mind that in this example the green solution is the pinnacle of that asteroids understanding.) Actual existence determines truth and nothing else, neither you nor my, nor anyone elses belief. Only actual existence can bear out truth. Our job us to simply uncover it. That's it, nothing fancy, extremely simple.

Unless there's some disagreement with some kind of spectrographic evidence I doubt this'd even be a conversation astrophysicists would have and at best they'd say "I believe its green/blue/pink", not that its true. What would be true is that it has a colour.

You see Arising_uk, you can't do what you just did, as it negates what you just said. A language is nothing more than a dictionary full of words and rules in using them. If you negate either the words meaning or the rules in using them then you can't speak that language. Dictionaries are just about standardization because with out them we would each speak a different language and thus not be capable of communicating. For instance if you thought that the definition of "pink" was blue and I thought the definition or "pink" was pink then we couldn't talk about pink. At least not that we could both understand what the other was talking about.

I defy you to give me an example of circular in the dictionary, as you propose.

Take any word and its definition and just keep following the words and definitions in a dictionary and you'll generally come back to the original.

I think a language is exactly not "nothing more than a dictionary full of words and rules in using them". These occur when you have writing. I doubt one-in-ten could tell you the rules of their grammar and no dictionary is needed to speak a language.

As long as we both point to the same colour at the same time it would make no difference what the word used, although I agree it would make communicating difficult.

To me this sounds as though you are contradicting yourself. Could you do me a favor and attempt to state it clearer for me?

I'm trying to understand the difference between a 'sound' and 'vibrations'.

Electromagnetic energy is a stream of photons that exhibits wave-like behavior as it travels through space.

Acoustic energy is a sequence of mechanical waves that is an oscillation of pressure transmitted through a solid, liquid, or gas.

I thought 'photons' a rain of particles?

Why is acoustic energy not a sequence of particles, i.e. electrons, travelling through space?

[bobevenson]

Selling swamp land to people that know better.

A guy like you, I wouldn't bother trying to sell swamp land, I'd offer you the Brooklyn Bridge, O my brother in tribulation!

[lancek4]

Selling swamp land to people that know better.

A guy like you, I wouldn't bother trying to sell swamp land, I'd offer you the Brooklyn Bridge, O my brother in tribulation!

Ok, so Im convinced one of two things about Bob here:
He is pulling our legs; or
he is a fanatic.
either way i see now he has no interest in having a discussion.
So this is my last response to his BS.

- I am one of Satan's minions. He has instructed me to tell you Bob that you are lost and the Ouzo game was a test which you have faiiled: I am actually God right hand, and this will be confirmed the next time you turn on the television. Listen to the woman in the blue blouse and she will instruct you with the implied code which will allow you to see the next level of Ozo. God thought it would be easy for you to see what the game meant, but I guess hes having me instruct you because you are not that bright. So he has told me to allow you to see that I am Satan's helper so you might then understand God's plan and next move for you.

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there will be no further communication to you over this forum from me.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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