The instrument of perception is body that is to say senses meaning, reflection the realm of purity, eternity, immortality, and unchangeableness, which are kindred, and with there is ever life, by not hindered
The most distinct comprehended mind must have known previously born before sensing the material things must have reflected these apparent things, that has been known, and can only be known, through the senses, before we see or hear or perceive in any way, we must have knowledge of what was before or we could not have referred to things which are derived from the senses.
Arising_uk, you are my hero, truly.
Socrates believed we acquired knowledge before we were born, He was not speaking only of knowing but of beauty, goodness, justice, holiness, all which are stamped with the name of the senses
We acquire knowledge before birth and lost at birth, and if after wards by the use of the knowledge recovered that which we previously knew, may rightly be termed recollection.
When we perceived something, either by the help of sight or hearing, or any other senses there was no difficulty having a conception there is some other like it or unlike it, which had been forgotten; we either had knowledge and continue to know through life; to learn we only remember that learning is only recollection.
Barbara Brooks wrote:You call what you do philosophy I it call photography not philosophy so why are you here maybe you should stop taunting the forum and join a photo forum?
I think there might be an expectation that he actually took the photographs himself if he did that.
Bill, I for one find your posts entertaining. And I believe I do understand your purpose. I believe that your posts bear the possibility of breaking up the tension of ego. And NO! I'm not pointing my finger at anyone in particular. My analysis is not thread dependent. This just seemed to be the perfect time to express my views. I love variety, and you sir, definitely add spice. I'm perplexed though as to how you find all these images. How long have you been amassing your collection and how often do you have to seek new material? <--(rhetorical)
I deeply enjoy and learn from your philosophical posts.
You remind me of another member who I deeply respected; Satyr.
The photos that I use are stock photos that I obtain right from the internet.
I may type-in a word or phrase from a topic that I am posting to here at the Philosophy Now Forums.
I never spend much time in obtaining them. I have enjoyed adding image to some of my posts where I think that a visual image would add to the content of the thread.
Like Barbara Brooks, I know that your viewpoints would add a lot to many other topic fields if you were to venture into other areas of the forums.
Good luck to you.
I really respect you and the thought that you put into you posts.
The history of thought is simple it involves contradiction. Thought reflects immediately on what has been. What is contained in thought is eternally forever a contradiction immediately appears. History what is presented has sunk into the night of the past no longer.
All actuality is nothing else but what it is present but not in a constructive way, reason is the middle term anywhere there is opposition there is reason which proclaims certainty and assurance of each existing being.
Reason comes new and real interests for world-spirit. Reason is said to be the creator of knowledge and truth but most excellent is good exceeds even their dignity and power.
Truth and knowledge are deemed to be like good but it has a place higher good leads to order and virtue. Good turns out to be the activity of the mind in accordance with virtue and more valuable. Good contains all that is essential and concrete falls outside of self. Is an object of mind at the same time free and independent in the case of consciousness, sensuous certainty and perception?
Consciousness, self-consciousness, reason, and spirit all these moments, is a moving process. The mind collects all these moments into its own content, keeps them together, and moves within this total wealth of real actual spirit within self-together in common a determinate character of self.
Then the mind is of a virtuous nature, educated by time, will acquire knowledge both of virtue and vice. It can turn round passing from a day which is little better than night to the true day of existence. This is the ascent, which is affirmed to be true philosophy.
Only self essential nature takes up a negative attitude towards others; on the other hand, but self-consciousness finds satisfaction in enjoyment of others, enjoys working without any requirement or without any hesitation.
Now these two moments going on around in the fortuitous action of self determinate; for what is done is properly an action on the part of self but self is the enslaved self-bondage: a repression of freedom.
Therefore disposed in the mind reason renders things clear and intelligible takes an unconstructive view towards the world and turns it round into a positive outlook. These two moments Hegel called “thing hood.”
Reason is said to be the creator of knowledge and truth but most excellent good exceeds even their dignity and power. Truth and knowledge are deemed to be like good but talent has a place higher it leads to order and virtue.
None of the senses, sight, hearing, smell and touch can give us assurance of the truth if virtuous good does not mediate. Good turns out to be the activity of the mind in accordance with virtue and he felt that being good was more valuable than knowledge. It contains all that is essential and concrete actual falls outside of that essential being. An object of mind has, at the same time the form of free and independence in this case of consciousness, a sensuous certainty and perception distinct.
In everyone are two guiding principles, which aspires after good; one is desire, the other is belief, and these two are sometimes in harmony and then again at war and sometimes one conquers the other.
These two ruling powers one is set over in the intellectual world and the other over in the visible world. It is The sphere of the visible world that consists of images, I mean, shadows and reflections. The other is the intellectual world, which through the medium of sight or touch, or of another senses has knowledge.
From the senses is derived knowledge all sensible beings aim at. The intelligible, Arithmetic and calculation, lead the mind toward truth. Numbers raise out of the sea of change and lay hold of truth, not as amateurs but until the nature of them is seen with mind only.
Gently reason with those who are not intentionally in error of philosophy only because in them the huge multiform monster is allowed to be too much at large. We as individuals are unable to control the creatures within have to court them and flatter them. Therefore, we need to watch over the many-headed monster as good farmers do, in order to foster and cultivate the gentle good and prevent those wild unwanted vegetation from growing.
People have changed their minds about philosophy already, if not in an aggressive spirit but gently and with the view of soothing and removing dislike once shown true philosophy what it really is and now view it in new light.
Nay, in a few people mean tempers may be found but not in the majority of people. And those harsh feeling that are entertained toward philosophy all originate in the pretenders, who rush in uninvited, always abusing and finding fault philosophy their theme of conversation and there is nothing that can be more unbecoming than that.
The philosopher is ever directed towards things fixed and immutable, that are neither injuring nor injured by one another, but all in order moving according to reason; these imitate and to these will, as far as can conform. Now can a person help imitating that with which they hold reverential converse? If perceived that what I am saying is truth, will they be angry at philosophy? Will they disbelieve it, when told that no society can be happy not designed by artists who imitate the heavenly pattern?
From the mind is derived knowledge that all sensible creatures aim at the idea of good. "To consider nothing, is the way of error in which the ignorant and double minded mortals wander,” said Parmenides
Truth is necessary to assert that something which all arts and sciences and intelligences use in common, and which every person first has to learn among the elements and that is the little matter of distinguishing one, two, and three or in a word, number and calculation. Here appears a study of the kind that leads naturally to reflection, but never to have been rightly used, this study simply draws the mind toward true being. When we perceive something, either by the help of sight or hearing, or some other sense, there is no difficulty in receiving from this conception something like or unlike it seen but forgotten. Therefore, one of two alternatives follows: either knowledge is with us at birth, and continues throughout life; or we learn from recollection.
I say we learn from recollection, constructing forms that we believe, will fit the contents of our world intuitively yet precisely, until we realize our dream or we realize our mistake. And we do so at several places simultaneously, as far and wide as our attention-span allows us, against the background of material reality that surrounds us and is (in) us. That outer layer allows us to compare and change positively towards and into a better constructed set of recollections that we can intuit and realize by (their) independent confirmation, emotionally, rationally or perhaps even logically.
Know thy self is an empty being just as immediate conscious simply certainty is the ego. The phenomenon of knowledge is sheer intelligence its criterion is wisdom, insight, and understanding.
Knowledge embraces nothing less than the entire realm of the mind inner working and weaving reflection and ideality.
The mind holds together feelings, perception, reason, willpower, and thinking. What a remarkable thing the mind is, appears as conscious, but is unconscious. We sentient creatures show outwardly our feelings, we sound our own accord, announce our spiritual being. It is this activity that makes the body vibrate into thought.
What distinguishes from non-living things are feelings. The unconscious mind is merely immediate reflection into self distinguishes the sphere of feeling from the numb unfeeling in the sphere of life. Nerves are branches connected to a single system connected to the mind are the inner osseous system that supports self against outside world. The system occurs through the nerve trunk produces a tension and liberation from gravity.
Now and here points only to another now and here, therefore one now and here only points to another even though now and here remain the same; difference of the same moment.
Space and time is simply now and here occupies here and now moves to another here and now yet both this before and after occupies the same here and now. One here and now taken by itself is only this here and now, meaning here and now is universal present, occupies here and now then that here and now moves to another here and now but does not leave here and now.
Place is called here and now; points only to another place, so, one place points to another place yet both place remain the same, just differences of the same moments. Place is spatial indifferent present and negativity of space is time and the positive is space the unity of both is matter.
There is nothing more whole extending in every direction as space. It is not connected to any thing or any condition, truly is mediationless indifference. Nothing affects space even though things in time exist in space. Now here are side-by-side yet they do not interrupt each place.
Time is the immediate collapse of sameness. It is the unfolding of things that what make time. Time is the truth of all things, moments dissolves, flows away and passes over into another moment the only standpoint is here and now the universal of all time. Here and now is the only standpoint that endures through all time; is distinct from the other moments is eternal. Achilles the flower of Greek life and Alexander The Great, that infinitely powerful individual, they did not endure here and now only their deeds, or their acts remain in place.
Schelling said, “ If plants had consciousness they would worship the sun as its God.” The ego has a likeness to sun as self-consciousness, as a pure reflection to oneself or an empty uncertainty of oneself. The Hindus believe that if the ego could maintain itself in pure sameness it would pass away into transparent sunlight."
Real things whose images are framed by thought, tested by the senses, are much more distinctly known than that obscure part of nature which does not come under the imagination. Although really it is very strange to say that to know and understand more distinctly these things whose existence seems to me an assumption.
Mind loves to wander, and cannot be retained within the just limits of truth. Suppose that there are two sorts of existences, one seen, the other unseen. The seen is the changing, and the unseen is the unchanging. For example is not one part of us body, and the rest of us soul? And to which class may we say that the body is more alike and akin? And is the soul seen or not seen? And by "seen" and "not seen" is meant by us that which is or is not visible to the eye.
Reason is regulated by words and temperance beauty, harmony, grace, and good rhythm they all depend on a orderly mind. Thus, moral actions is our work our grace and harmony and effective instrument of mind, because rhythm and harmony find their way imparting grace, and good is when reason comes and we recognize and salute it.
Socrates believed that learning to read everywhere youth is eager to make words known. Only when we know the words exactly and know the essential forms of temperance, courage, liberality, magnificence, and their kindred when a beautiful mind is harmonized with the fairest of sights are to those who have an eye to see it.