occupying wall street - will it do any good

[Pluto]

http://roarmag.org/

[Arising_uk]

You be joining them anytime soon?

[Pluto]

I've been living it since 1998, it's why I started painting again.

[Arising_uk]

I meant Bill.

Nice to see New Yorks finest acting in their citizens interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU9qTj3fwck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um5xV8Mgcno

Must have taken a leaf from Typists law and order book.

Tazer the bitches next time.

[Pluto]

I meant Bill.

Right, apologies.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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I have had my own War on Wall Street going for the past few years.

My War is more specific and personal than the Occupation of Wall Street movement.


I totally support the Occupation of Wall Street movement and I hope to be able to directly participate soon.




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[Typist]

I totally support the Occupation of Wall Street movement and I hope to be able to directly participate soon.[/size]

What do you hope the movement will accomplish Bill?

I dunno. Although I'm not well informed, so far it looks like a classic example of why successful movements usually have leaders. Lots of emotion, not much thinking going on.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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I think the movement has already accomplished WAY MORE than anyone ever expected or could have hoped.


The movement has created an awareness.


The movement broke the barrier to main stream media.


As far as a literal message or statement, I hope that has not been stapled upon the movement as yet. I hope that any definitive statement is never found.


The movement is an emotional statement. That is the purpose of the occupation.


The fact that Organized Labor is affording support is not surprising to me.






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[Typist]

Ok Bill, whatever you say.

It's perfect that you replied with a photo of Micheal Moore.

[chaz wyman]

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[Bill Wiltrack]

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"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires."
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[tbieter]

I have been interested in Worker Cooperatives. On occasion, I had the opportunity of asking a protester why he didn't start a worker cooperative. Usually he didn't even have an occupation! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative#UK

One very successful one in Duluth, started by a group of hippies of my acquaintance, is the Builders Commonwealth. http://builderscommonwealth.com/home They were hard workers and sought to be craftsmen.

The Wall Street protesters don't have the same work ethic.

[Arising_uk]

... The Wall Street protesters don't have the same work ethic.

And your evidence for this? Sounds like the good-old slander that the right likes to promote when there is an actual show of public anger. Looks to me like they are protesting that their hard-working taxes and savings have been shovelled down the drain by these 'hard-working' bankers and speculators.

Have to agree though that the way for the 'left' to go is back to the idea of co-ops and shareholder ownerships.

You could even moot that a large part of our problems has been shareholders not involving themselves in the companies in the first place, due I guess to being overcome by greed themselves.

[Bill Wiltrack]

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Shoenice22 Drinks a Quart of Oil to Protest Corporate Greed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M10kSf1s5to



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[chaz wyman]

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Shoenice22 Drinks a Quart of Oil to Protest Corporate Greed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M10kSf1s5to

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Motor Oil is seriously toxic to living system.

A few years ago in Spain, thousands of people took ill, some with life-long problems due to cooking oil being cut with cheap motor oil.

I really hope he switched bottles when the bottle was off camera.