'God particle' out of hiding places: CERN chief
'God particle' out of hiding places: CERN chief
'God particle' out of hiding places: CERN chief
August 25th, 2011 in Physics / General Physics
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The director general of the European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN), Rolf-Dieter Heuer, addresses a news conference at the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research (TIFR) in Mumbai on August 25. Heuer said the the elusive Higgs Boson, known as the "God particle", was -- if it exists -- running out of places to hide.
The elusive Higgs Boson, known as the "God particle", is -- if it exists -- running out of places to hide, the head of the mammoth experiment designed to find it said on Thursday.
"The window for the famous Higgs Boson... is getting smaller and smaller," Professor Rolf Heuer, director-general of the European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN), told a news conference in Mumbai, where the agency presented its latest data in the quest.
The Higgs Boson is a theoretical sub-atomic particle that is believed to confer mass. It is named after a British scientist who suggested its existence in the 1960s.
It has been dubbed the "God particle" because it is thought to be everywhere, but it has also proved agonisingly hard to find.
Scientists at CERN are trying to determine its existence in the world's largest particle collider, located in a tunnel deep below the Franco-Swiss border, and believe they can come up with an answer by the end of 2012.
Heuer said the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) was working well but finding evidence of the enigmatic particle was difficult because they were looking at the lowest levels of mass, the last place where it may -- or may not -- lurk.
He likened the search to trying to find a snowy field during a blizzard, while Pier Oddone, director of the US Department of Energy's Fermilab, said it was like looking for stars in daylight.
"It's the hardest region because of the background... It's more difficult to see what's going on," Oddone said.
On Monday, CERN research director Sergio Bertolucci said experiments had excluded with 95 percent certainty the existence of the Higgs boson at higher levels of mass.
The 27-kilometre (16.9-mile) Large Hadron Collider is designed to accelerate protons to nearly the speed of light and then smash them together where detectors in house-sized laboratories record the seething, sub-atomic debris.
The collisions briefly create temperatures 100,000 times hotter than the Sun, fleetingly replicating conditions split-seconds after the "Big Bang" that created the known universe 13.7 billion years ago.
The Higgs Boson is the missing cornerstone of the well-tested Standard Model of particle physics, a theory which explains how known sub-atomic particles in the universe interact.
Professor Rohini Godbole, particle theorist at the Centre for High Energy Physics at the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore, said the Standard Model had been put together like a house of cards over the last 70 years.
"We're trying to put together the last two cards," she added. "If the Higgs Boson is found, the two cards meet. If it's not... the house of cards is going to fall down."
Godbole said she was confident of a discovery.
"All that so far has been tested, whatever we have been predicting, has been found to be true," she said.
(c) 2011 AFP
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God particle may not exist.
Thursday, 6 December, 2001, 13:13 GMT
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1695390.stm
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- The mad CERN’s way.
14 Sep 2008 16:14 GMT
by Israel Sadovnik Socratus
http://www.spacekb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/a ... -s-project
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August 25th, 2011 in Physics / General Physics
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The director general of the European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN), Rolf-Dieter Heuer, addresses a news conference at the Tata Institute of Fundamental Research (TIFR) in Mumbai on August 25. Heuer said the the elusive Higgs Boson, known as the "God particle", was -- if it exists -- running out of places to hide.
The elusive Higgs Boson, known as the "God particle", is -- if it exists -- running out of places to hide, the head of the mammoth experiment designed to find it said on Thursday.
"The window for the famous Higgs Boson... is getting smaller and smaller," Professor Rolf Heuer, director-general of the European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN), told a news conference in Mumbai, where the agency presented its latest data in the quest.
The Higgs Boson is a theoretical sub-atomic particle that is believed to confer mass. It is named after a British scientist who suggested its existence in the 1960s.
It has been dubbed the "God particle" because it is thought to be everywhere, but it has also proved agonisingly hard to find.
Scientists at CERN are trying to determine its existence in the world's largest particle collider, located in a tunnel deep below the Franco-Swiss border, and believe they can come up with an answer by the end of 2012.
Heuer said the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) was working well but finding evidence of the enigmatic particle was difficult because they were looking at the lowest levels of mass, the last place where it may -- or may not -- lurk.
He likened the search to trying to find a snowy field during a blizzard, while Pier Oddone, director of the US Department of Energy's Fermilab, said it was like looking for stars in daylight.
"It's the hardest region because of the background... It's more difficult to see what's going on," Oddone said.
On Monday, CERN research director Sergio Bertolucci said experiments had excluded with 95 percent certainty the existence of the Higgs boson at higher levels of mass.
The 27-kilometre (16.9-mile) Large Hadron Collider is designed to accelerate protons to nearly the speed of light and then smash them together where detectors in house-sized laboratories record the seething, sub-atomic debris.
The collisions briefly create temperatures 100,000 times hotter than the Sun, fleetingly replicating conditions split-seconds after the "Big Bang" that created the known universe 13.7 billion years ago.
The Higgs Boson is the missing cornerstone of the well-tested Standard Model of particle physics, a theory which explains how known sub-atomic particles in the universe interact.
Professor Rohini Godbole, particle theorist at the Centre for High Energy Physics at the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore, said the Standard Model had been put together like a house of cards over the last 70 years.
"We're trying to put together the last two cards," she added. "If the Higgs Boson is found, the two cards meet. If it's not... the house of cards is going to fall down."
Godbole said she was confident of a discovery.
"All that so far has been tested, whatever we have been predicting, has been found to be true," she said.
(c) 2011 AFP
"'God particle' out of hiding places: CERN chief." August 25th, 2011. http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-08-god ... chief.html
Posted by
Robert Karl Stonjek
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God particle may not exist.
Thursday, 6 December, 2001, 13:13 GMT
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1695390.stm
#
- The mad CERN’s way.
14 Sep 2008 16:14 GMT
by Israel Sadovnik Socratus
http://www.spacekb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/a ... -s-project
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Re: 'God particle' out of hiding places: CERN chief
Whichever way it turns out, it will tell us something new!
Re: 'God particle' out of hiding places: CERN chief
To find ‘the famous Higgs Boson’ physicists need
not only High Energy but a Pure Vacuum too.
Without the Pure Vacuum the 27-kilometers (16.9-mile)
Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is an useless toy.
I ask: Where in the Universe we can find
the Pure Vacuum and High Energy ?
My answer: The Universe as whole is a Pure Energy Vacuum.
Why?
Because the detected material mass of the matter in the Universe
( the cosmological constant / the critical density of Uuniverse)
is very small (the average density of all substance in the
Universe is approximately p=10^-30 g/sm^3 ) .
Because the Universe is filled with dark matter and dark energy :
‘ 90% or more of the matter in the Universe is unseen / dark.’
=.
Therefore I think that maybe we can find ‘a new paradigm’ in
the Cosmic Vacuum: the empty space between stars ( Galaxies )
And this Vacuum is not an empty space
The Vacuum is some kind of Cosmic background Energy.
The Vacuum is an Infinite Energy-time continuum.
The Vacuum is Dirac’s sea.
And according to Dirac and other physicists the
Vacuum Energy can generate particles.
The 'God particles' , the ‘virtual particles’ live there.
. . . .
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BTW .
Vacuum -- the very name suggests emptiness and nothingness –
is actually a realm rife with potentiality, courtesy of the laws
of quantum electrodynamics (QED). According to QED,
additional, albeit virtual, particles can be created in the vacuum,
allowing light-light interactions.
http://www.aip.org/pnu/2006/768.html
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Dark energy may be vacuum
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 011607.php
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When the next revolution rocks physics,
chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum,
that endless infinite void.
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/aug/18 ... everything
. . . .etc.
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not only High Energy but a Pure Vacuum too.
Without the Pure Vacuum the 27-kilometers (16.9-mile)
Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is an useless toy.
I ask: Where in the Universe we can find
the Pure Vacuum and High Energy ?
My answer: The Universe as whole is a Pure Energy Vacuum.
Why?
Because the detected material mass of the matter in the Universe
( the cosmological constant / the critical density of Uuniverse)
is very small (the average density of all substance in the
Universe is approximately p=10^-30 g/sm^3 ) .
Because the Universe is filled with dark matter and dark energy :
‘ 90% or more of the matter in the Universe is unseen / dark.’
=.
Therefore I think that maybe we can find ‘a new paradigm’ in
the Cosmic Vacuum: the empty space between stars ( Galaxies )
And this Vacuum is not an empty space
The Vacuum is some kind of Cosmic background Energy.
The Vacuum is an Infinite Energy-time continuum.
The Vacuum is Dirac’s sea.
And according to Dirac and other physicists the
Vacuum Energy can generate particles.
The 'God particles' , the ‘virtual particles’ live there.
. . . .
====.
BTW .
Vacuum -- the very name suggests emptiness and nothingness –
is actually a realm rife with potentiality, courtesy of the laws
of quantum electrodynamics (QED). According to QED,
additional, albeit virtual, particles can be created in the vacuum,
allowing light-light interactions.
http://www.aip.org/pnu/2006/768.html
#
Dark energy may be vacuum
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/ ... 011607.php
#
When the next revolution rocks physics,
chances are it will be about nothing—the vacuum,
that endless infinite void.
http://discovermagazine.com/2008/aug/18 ... everything
. . . .etc.
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Re: 'God particle' out of hiding places: CERN chief
Conclusion:
The alternative for LHC can be the Cosmic
Infinite Pure High Energy Vacuum: T= 0K, E= ∞
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The alternative for LHC can be the Cosmic
Infinite Pure High Energy Vacuum: T= 0K, E= ∞
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Re: 'God particle' out of hiding places: CERN chief
God particle doesn't exist. Therefore, God doesn't exist!
Re: 'God particle' out of hiding places: CERN chief
=.Rortabend wrote:God particle doesn't exist. Therefore, God doesn't exist!
Two ways to God Particle.
1
One way to find God Particle is CERN.
The result of the CERN experiment can be received
only in the reference frame of vacuum.
The vacuum is the most important part of CERN.
2
Another way to find God Particle takes its beginning
from QED. QED says: all electron parameters in
interaction with vacuum become infinite. But this is
forbidden by " The Law of Conservation and
Transformation of Energy". Question:
How will the electron regenerate from the vacuum?
3
So, CERN and QED cannot exist without vacuum.
Questions: What is vacuum? Can it be: T=0K ?
Which kind of particles can exist in T=0K condition?
4
I say, that Third Law of Thermodynamics gives the answer:
the particles in T=0K condition don’t have volume and
therefore they must be flat circle/ disc particles: c/d=pi=3,14 . . .
And if vacuum is some kind of energy space – so the particles
also must be some kind of energy particles with potential
energy: E= -Mc^2.
And if vacuum is some kind of thermodynamics space – so
the particles must have potential gravity mass: R/N=k.
And when I posted my opinion I received emails from some
persons with Ph.D in their pockets: idiot, moron, cretin . . .
You are a small minded clown.. . . drink your cup of hemlock.
5
Where is my mistake?
6
On my opinion, to search God Particle using CERN
is mad project. It is better ( and maybe it is cheaper too)
to understand: What is electron?
How does the electron regenerate from the vacuum?
And if we understand what electron is, we will also
understand that CERN is the big pyramid in the XXIc.
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How can the problem of the vacuum energy be resolved ?
1
After big bang the T=2,7K is going down and
in the future will reach T=0K.
2
The cosmological constant (critical density) in the
Universe is near zero.
3
In the physical laboratory physicists have reached
T=0,001K or maybe T=0,0001K.
Why cannot the Universe ( as whole) have this parameter ?
4
My question:
Which kind of particles can exist in T=0K or in T=0,001K
or near T=0K condition?
===========================.
a)
T=0K is not nothing space, but it is a Negative space
( -273,16 ) which is filled with virtual negative particles.
Mathematical they describe not as zero (0), but with
imaginary numbers: i^2=-1.
It means mathematically they can be in two conditions:
positive and negative .
b)
Sommerfeld had possibility to write electron as: e^2=ah*c;
it means, electron can be in two conditions: positive e= +ah*c
and negative e= -ah*c.
c)
Dirac wrote two (2) formulas of electrons energy;
it means, the electrons energy can be in two
conditions: positive +E=Mc^2 and negative -E=Mc^2.
d)
Can theory of electron describe the problem of the vacuum energy?
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus
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Re: 'God particle' out of hiding places: CERN chief
The electron-positron couple is certain (reversible) imbalanced (local) status of vacuum (of physical space). This "status" is "imbalanced" due to some energy is necessary to create it... Let me to repeat: They are two opposite (inverse) kinds of structure defects - it hardly is anything elsesocratus wrote: ...
How does the electron regenerate from the vacuum?
....
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus
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No need to bother with it
Re: 'God particle' out of hiding places: CERN chief
The virtual particle/anti-particle pair exists by 'borrowing energy from the future' and it pays this debt back (in what is now the present) when the pair self-annihilates. Analogous to the 'tunneling' effect seen in semi-conductors.
Re: 'God particle' out of hiding places: CERN chief
Somehow, the energy is extracted from the vacuum and turned intoThundril wrote: The virtual particle/anti-particle pair exists by 'borrowing energy from the future'
and it pays this debt back (in what is now the present) when the pair self-annihilates.
Analogous to the 'tunneling' effect seen in semi-conductors.
particles...Don't try it in your basement, but you can do it.
/ -- University of Chicago cosmologist Rocky Kolb /
Re: 'God particle' out of hiding places: CERN chief
socratus wrote:Somehow, the energy is extracted from the vacuum and turned intoThundril wrote: The virtual particle/anti-particle pair exists by 'borrowing energy from the future'
and it pays this debt back (in what is now the present) when the pair self-annihilates.
Analogous to the 'tunneling' effect seen in semi-conductors.
particles...Don't try it in your basement, but you can do it.
/ -- University of Chicago cosmologist Rocky Kolb /
Re: 'God particle' out of hiding places: CERN chief
Whichever way it turns out, it will tell us something new!Thundril wrote:socratus wrote:Somehow, the energy is extracted from the vacuum and turned intoThundril wrote: The virtual particle/anti-particle pair exists by 'borrowing energy from the future'
and it pays this debt back (in what is now the present) when the pair self-annihilates.
Analogous to the 'tunneling' effect seen in semi-conductors.
particles...Don't try it in your basement, but you can do it.
/ -- University of Chicago cosmologist Rocky Kolb /
/ Thundril Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:12 pm /