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How does us being unaware of a purpose automatically equal there being no purpose?
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How does there being no evidence of purpose make us assume there might be any at all?

By what right can you justify the possibility of anything being present when all there is an absence of it , and when its presence would be completely unreasonable and incredible.
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How does us being unaware of a purpose automatically equal there being no purpose?
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Typist wrote:How does us being unaware of a purpose automatically equal there being no purpose?
How does there being no evidence of purpose make us assume there might be any at all?

By what right can you justify the possibility of anything being present when all there is an absence of it , and when its presence would be completely unreasonable and incredible.
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How does there being no evidence of purpose make us assume there might be any at all?
We agree there is no evidence of purpose as of today.

Please demonstrate your ability to know what science might discover 1,000 years from now.

You seem to be making a claim that you are in a position to know that thousands of years of future scientific inquiry will not uncover a purpose. Is that correct?
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chaz wyman wrote: You are trying to claim the know the consequence of 'evolution'.
Such a claim is ridiculous.
Is it?

con_sequence = REAL_IT_Y?
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Typist wrote:You seem to be making a claim that you are in a position to know that thousands of years of future scientific inquiry will not uncover a purpose. Is that correct?
No you idiot, we're trying to tell you that the definition and explanation of evolution is exactly that there is no 'purpose' or 'goal' in the sense of a 'designer' or a 'thing' with 'intention'. That it is a consequence of the explanatory power of the theory. It may well be the case that one day a better theory arises, but I doubt it, and if so then the argument that you are putting forward for a purpose in evolution will still be false as there won't be a theory of evolution. :roll:

Just return to your faith and please stop trying to think as its painful to read.
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attofishpi wrote:Is it?
Yes.
con_sequence = REAL_IT_Y?
And this means what?
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Arising_uk wrote:
attofishpi wrote:con_sequence = REAL_IT_Y?
And this means what?
The same as this:- AT_HEIST be aware.
Deep is the logic of this system.

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attofishpi wrote:Deep is the logic of this system.
Pray explain the logic?
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Arising_uk wrote:
attofishpi wrote:Deep is the logic of this system.
Pray explain the logic?
Prey? I will feed on the carcasses of atheists.

Its coming as part of a project i am working on. You will need to be patient.
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No you idiot, we're trying to tell you that the definition and explanation of evolution is exactly that there is no 'purpose' or 'goal' in the sense of a 'designer' or a 'thing' with 'intention'.
We already know what our current understanding of evolution is.
It may well be the case that one day a better theory arises, but I doubt it,
Ok, so you're saying that you are in a position to know what the next 1,000 years of study of evolution will or won't reveal.

Please back up this claim.

To me, it looks like you are doing the same thing you accuse theists of, claiming to know things they couldn't possibly know.
and if so then the argument that you are putting forward for a purpose in evolution will still be false as there won't be a theory of evolution. :roll:
First, I'm not proposing there is purpose in evolution. You are wishing that I was making that claim, as that's an argument you've memorized the answers to.

I'm proposing that the investigation in to the development of life is likely to continue for a very long time, and neither you or I know what that investigation will learn.

I'm proposing that your idea that you know whether there is a purpose to evolution or not is a fantasy. I'm proposing that if you were intellectually honest, and not an atheist dogma chanter, you'd already know and admit that.
Just return to your faith and please stop trying to think as its painful to read.
Kindly stick your tiny little head up your butt! Thank you very much!
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Typist wrote:We already know what our current understanding of evolution is.
Do 'we'? Well your words and thoughts clearly show that you don't.
Ok, so you're saying that you are in a position to know what the next 1,000 years of study of evolution will or won't reveal.
No idiot, I'm saying that if what you say is true then it won't be Darwins Theory of Evolution will it? It'd be the 'designer' you so truly want.
Please back up this claim.

To me, it looks like you are doing the same thing you accuse theists of, claiming to know things they couldn't possibly know.
But to you thoughts are of no purpose, reality tells you things when you don't think. Of course I can know as its in the definition of the theory of evolution numbnuts. Its because you can't grasp logic that you can't grasp the point I'm trying to make to you.
First, I'm not proposing there is purpose in evolution. You are wishing that I was making that claim, as that's an argument you've memorized the answers to.
Unfortunately for you and unlike you I do not regurgitate memorized pet ideas. Take a look at your last posts, they are exactly like all the other ones you make, you are a parrot. So, you are supporting exactly the claim that its possible in the future that a purposeful intent will be found behind evolution and if so then it won't be the Theory of Evolution will it!
I'm proposing that the investigation in to the development of life is likely to continue for a very long time, and neither you or I know what that investigation will learn.
So now its 'life' is it? Which 'life' are you talking about?
I'm proposing that your idea that you know whether there is a purpose to evolution or not is a fantasy. I'm proposing that if you were intellectually honest, and not an atheist dogma chanter, you'd already know and admit that.
You are an idiot who thinks you can write pap upon a philosophy forum and have it accepted as some kind of insight. Its not. It may well go down well on your 'aphilosophy' forums but here it makes you look stupid. Once more, its in the definition of what the theory of evolution is that there is no purpose or intent needed to explain how living things arose.
Kindly stick your tiny little head up your butt! Thank you very much!
I'll leave that trick to you.
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attofishpi wrote:Prey? I will feed on the carcasses of atheists.

Its coming as part of a project i am working on. You will need to be patient.
'God' help us!
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ps. 'he' and entropy is very mean. :twisted:
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