If you look, Canada was doing rather well under those governments. Certainly their relations with the US were good.
Not since the Trudeau Liberals, though...and not in the Carney Liberals, either.
If you look, Canada was doing rather well under those governments. Certainly their relations with the US were good.
PhhhhhB (sputters). The current bad relationship with Canad has NOTING to do with who is in power in government in Canada. Just with who is in power in government HERE in the USA.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:00 pm
If you look, Canada was doing rather well under those governments. Certainly their relations with the US were good.
That's funny. All the papers and news sites seem to know otherwise.MikeNovack wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:12 pm The current bad relationship with Canad has NOTING to do with who is in power in government in Canada.
Conservative governments sucked Canada into being dependent on the US.MikeNovack wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:12 pmPhhhhhB (sputters). The current bad relationship with Canad has NOTING to do with who is in power in government in Canada. Just with who is in power in government HERE in the USA.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 10:00 pm
If you look, Canada was doing rather well under those governments. Certainly their relations with the US were good.
They didn't, actually. Canada has long been dependent on the US, and through many different administrations. Independence from the US has never even been a possibility, economically speaking. And culturally, Canada has consumed more US products than its own, and for a very long time.
Well, Canada has tried, but always lacks the means to be a self-sufficient country. They've never managed their own defense, and don't even have interior markets even close to capable of buying their raw goods, or industrial infrastructure capable of refining them, or delivery systems capable of exploiting their assets.
Oh, they'll have to. There's no way they're getting free of the US. They're nowhere near powerful, well-run or infrastructurally- adequate to go it on their own, and no country is close enough or has a big enough market to absorb all they get from the US right now. Without the US, they're doomed.
I presume you concur with Trump's position that climate change is a hoax? Ja!Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 10:24 pm But then, Carney's working for himself, his own career, and his own ideology, not for his country. That's obvious from his insistence on nonsense "green" programs: he's either an idiot or an ideologue. Probably the latter.
I'm not American. I have no reason to "concur" with anybody there. What I do know is that the so-called "green" measures in Canada are not "green." But they're hugely bad for the economy, as well. But that's just a matter of fact.Dubious wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 11:41 pmI presume you concur with Trump's position that climate change is a hoax? Ja!Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 10:24 pm But then, Carney's working for himself, his own career, and his own ideology, not for his country. That's obvious from his insistence on nonsense "green" programs: he's either an idiot or an ideologue. Probably the latter.
I didn't ask if you're American. That was not the question! I asked whether you believe climate change is a hoax.Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:01 amI'm not American. I have no reason to "concur" with anybody there. What I do know is that the so-called "green" measures in Canada are not "green." But they're hugely bad for the economy, as well. But that's just a matter of fact.Dubious wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 11:41 pmI presume you concur with Trump's position that climate change is a hoax? Ja!Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 10:24 pm But then, Carney's working for himself, his own career, and his own ideology, not for his country. That's obvious from his insistence on nonsense "green" programs: he's either an idiot or an ideologue. Probably the latter.