Dubious wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 7:19 am
First you assert "it's the truth" and now you say "you don't have a truth". Very convenient having it both ways.
No, it's only one way. I think I was clear: we all have one truth. It doesn't belong to me, and it doesn't belong to you. It's universal. It is the same for everybody.
If you think it's not, just try to defy the truth. It always wins...eventually.
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 2:55 amBut if there's no life beyond this one, Mr. Hitchens knows nothing now. And his life has come to nothing, and eternally, it will be nothing.
This needs to be amended.
If there is no life beyond this one then yours defaults to the same conclusion as you described for Hitchens. Whatever the outcome, it does not imply
"his life has come to nothing" for such is determined by posterity and subsequent influence; in your case however, I wouldn't deny it.[/quote]
You think it matters to somebody who's dead, if there's nothing after death, whether or not other people remember him? You think he rolls over in his grave, and says, "Well, at least they're still thinking about me"?
If the dead know nothing, then nothing matters to them any longer. There are no consolations any more, for them. Where there's life, there's hope: but you can't "console" a handful of dirt. And that's all that's left of them...and of all of us, if you're right.
Then, eventually, the whole universe itself perishes, in a thing called "heat death." And nothing ever happens again, for all of infinity. That's what science tells us will be the final outcome. What, then, will it matter what the "short-winded accents" of men have achieved? For it all goes to dust.
