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[Immanuel Can]

Thank you for the collaboration.

Likewise. Good talk.

[MikeNovack]

But in this case, the gangrene was chosen by you. You wanted to risk getting gangrene.

So from beginning to end, the problem is really...you.

Not exactly. The action chosen had a risk of gangrene. Like the choice to walk barefoot giving the slight risk of a cut at a place where some time before injury could be cleaned and an infection resulted, antibiotic resistant leading to tissue death leading to gangrene. Like the choice of getting into a car resulting in injury from a traffic accident.

PROBABILITIES That's what it comes down to. When very small we do NOT usually say the person chose the bad outcome. When very high, we might say that they did. Where do you stand on this? (a number, please). Do you say, if the risk of bad outcome per chosen action was 10% do you say the bad outcome was chosen? How about 1%? How about 0.1%? How about 0.01%? << for an example activity, skiing, it's 0.2 to 0.3% per time you go skiing >>

[Immanuel Can]

But in this case, the gangrene was chosen by you. You wanted to risk getting gangrene.

So from beginning to end, the problem is really...you.

Not exactly.

Yes, exactly. Nobody is compelling sex, or even unprotected sex, except in 1% of the cases. So it's 100% on the 99%.