Lies are better than the truth

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Dubious
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Re: Lies are better than the truth

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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2026 1:48 pm
Dubious wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2026 12:42 pm Last chance to redeem yourselves come November (if you haven't turned into a bona fide dictatorship by then) and turn Moronica back to America.
With the nation mired in a war that may be of existential significance, It may be possible if enough people rally behind the Republicans that the Trump administration will be able to declare a national emergency and possibly suspend future elections for some time, if not indefinitely.
Good point! From what I've heard just today, the Trump administration expects any agreement with Iran to take approximately six months or more creating an intentional justification to suspend future elections. A scenario in which any conflict with Iran - or anyone that is not a nuclear power for that matter - couldn't be more welcome inventing the perfect excuse to first suspend elections and then never allowing the suspension to cease; it signifies the end of the old Constitution and the beginning of a new one. Considering how often Trump has been allowed to override the Constitution even without a war, that possibility is not to be discounted. The US currently seems incapable defending the mandate which created it...something I never believed could happen.
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Re: Lies are better than the truth

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Dubious wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2026 2:14 am
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2026 1:48 pm
Dubious wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2026 12:42 pm Last chance to redeem yourselves come November (if you haven't turned into a bona fide dictatorship by then) and turn Moronica back to America.
With the nation mired in a war that may be of existential significance, It may be possible if enough people rally behind the Republicans that the Trump administration will be able to declare a national emergency and possibly suspend future elections for some time, if not indefinitely.
Good point! From what I've heard just today, the Trump administration expects any agreement with Iran to take approximately six months or more creating an intentional justification to suspend future elections. A scenario in which any conflict with Iran - or anyone that is not a nuclear power for that matter - couldn't be more welcome inventing the perfect excuse to first suspend elections and then never allowing the suspension to cease; it signifies the end of the old Constitution and the beginning of a new one. Considering how often Trump has been allowed to override the Constitution even without a war, that possibility is not to be discounted. The US currently seems incapable defending the mandate which created it...something I never believed could happen.
no, no, no... only farmers wearing suspenders will be allowed to vote

a possible exception for Bozos with ballots may be made if their shoes are the proper size

after that, the constitution itself will be declared unconstitutional

wait, Bozos with ballots was a Reagan movie wasn't it?!? conspiracy!!! conspiracy!!!

-Imp
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Re: Lies are better than the truth

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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2026 10:04 am
popeye1945 wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2026 6:45 am
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2026 9:46 pm The world would obviously be a better place if everyone were theist and not anti-theist. Why? Because God created all that is and to be against God is to be against all that is. It's the very definition of evil itself to be opposed to something. It's evil by definition not to praise the creator of all that is. It doesn't matter what that creator created or how it works, but if you are against creation, then you are evil. Hence I am evil, because I think the world is a shit show and that if there is a God, God made as many mistakes as s/he/it did anything else. I'm evil. End of story.

What are you?
Gary,

Just consider the greater probability that creation should not be attributed to an anthropomorphic entity, give up the god of thunder as god's bowling night
It doesn't matter. The world is pretty much over. My leaders have once again made my country into the most despicable one on Earth. Chomsky told people not to vote for the Republicans, that they were even more evil than the Democrats. He tried to warn people not to vote for them. But they wouldn't listen. Now the Republicans have basically taken us all to hell. Many of us knew this was going to happen. We could see it coming from miles away, a reckless group wrecking everything. But there was nothing we could do to stop it. Once again, our hands are dripping red from another blood bath. The Republicans are a curse on this Earth. The best thing the Republicans can do for the world now is off themselves for what they've done to us. But they won't. They'll take us all with them.
Hi Gary,

Wow, I don't disagree with you, but in my experience, it is unusual for Americans to have such clarity. The American and Zionist Israeli America has the most powerful, most thorough propaganda machine in the world. American citizens have been subject to it for so long that it is a wonder anyone escapes it. You apparently have. That should allow you or anyone else in the same category to think as a global citizen rather than being wrapped in the flag, clutching a Bible, and spouting love it or leave it. I hope you are contagious!
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Re: Lies are better than the truth

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popeye1945 wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2026 7:48 am The American and Zionist Israeli America has the most powerful, most thorough propaganda machine in the world. American citizens have been subject to it for so long that it is a wonder anyone escapes it.
This belongs in political.

It is also a misunderstanding WHY some interest groups appear to have a disproportionate influence. Leading to conspiracy theories

REALITY ---- ANY single issue interest group willing to trade favors with anybody (willing to give way on almost all other issues) will have a disproportionate influence UNLESS directly opposed be another single issue group on the other side of the issue. That's because a plus sum game to co-operate with them (trade support) and negative sum to oppose them. THAT is the secret of the "Zionists". And why AT THE MOMENT not working for them. Note that ALMOST all other issues. Too many of the "Zionists" are unwilling to treat progressive issues that way, so their power is broken.

To see that this is not unique (to the "Zionists") just look at American history. The anti-alcohol single issue interest group was able to ram through an amendment to the Constitution even though never more than a sizeable minority.
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Re: Lies are better than the truth

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MikeNovack wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2026 5:26 pm
popeye1945 wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2026 7:48 am The American and Zionist Israeli America has the most powerful, most thorough propaganda machine in the world. American citizens have been subject to it for so long that it is a wonder anyone escapes it.
This belongs in political.

It is also a misunderstanding WHY some interest groups appear to have a disproportionate influence. Leading to conspiracy theories

REALITY ---- ANY single issue interest group willing to trade favors with anybody (willing to give way on almost all other issues) will have a disproportionate influence UNLESS directly opposed be another single issue group on the other side of the issue. That's because a plus sum game to co-operate with them (trade support) and negative sum to oppose them. THAT is the secret of the "Zionists". And why AT THE MOMENT not working for them. Note that ALMOST all other issues. Too many of the "Zionists" are unwilling to treat progressive issues that way, so their power is broken.

To see that this is not unique (to the "Zionists"), just look at American history. The anti-alcohol single-issue interest group was able to ram through an amendment to the Constitution even though never more than a sizeable minority.
It belongs in both, I would say, nothing believes lies are better than truth for manipulating a population than a government propaganda machine. It is not just during wartime that it tells the population that others are its, are somewhat less than human. In most countries, if they are doing that in a big way, they allow no counterbalance, and people in general are not aware they are being manipulated. Now that is an evil power at work. I suspect, however, the West has a mastery of this evil power the rest of the world suffers under, as its nature arose from Empire and colonialism, another word for slavery --Machivilli, where are you? I appreciate your insight here, Mike, but it does not apply to Zionist America. Israel used great sums of money, much of it America's own, to buy the United States Congress, and where money wasn't enough, the Epstein files on the elite politicians and elites in every field were enough through blackmail to buy an Empire. America is now the Zionist American Empire, co-joined at the hip with Israel in their genocidal endeavors.
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