After Trump

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Gary Childress
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After Trump

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The lesser of two evils is not going to cut it anymore. After the Trump debacle, we need someone who believes in universality, will stop the wars and fund effective social programs for all. Is there no one anywhere in American politics who can accomplish those things together?
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effective social programs for all...

free everything for everyone equals nothing for anyone

utopia

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Impenitent wrote: Sat Feb 28, 2026 5:14 pm effective social programs for all...

free everything for everyone equals nothing for anyone

utopia

-Imp
Large scale, highly centralized private ownership of industry is fundamentally undemocratic and unfair. There are many social programs run by government agencies that have worked. Education, medicare, postal services, social security, FDA, CDC, FAA. Those programs have ensured public safety very well, that we take for granted today. However, they are repeatedly assaulted by private industry barons that simply want to enrich themselves.

Perhaps large scale production can be run by democratic institutions of workers who work in the industries they are running. Smaller shops can operate on private ownership but if they become a monopoly or "too big to fail" then they should be turned over and operated democratically by workers instead of simply feeding the coffers of a few ultra wealthy individuals. The US has turned into a 2nd world country (even 3rd world in some parts), thanks largely to deregulation and monopolization by the wealthy few who skim profits off the top and leave the majority below them impoverished. The US has had great success with government agencies run alongside private enterprise. However, when private enterprise gets in a mood to increase their personal profits, it usually means moving away from government management and everyone else loses. The US Is a disaster right now thanks to people like Bezos, Musk, Trump et al. who have turned the country and the world into their personal playgrounds.
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Re: After Trump

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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Feb 28, 2026 4:50 pm The lesser of two evils is not going to cut it anymore. After the Trump debacle, we need someone who believes in universality, will stop the wars and fund effective social programs for all. Is there no one anywhere....who can accomplish those things together?
Well, according to Google's AI Overview [bracketed interjection mine]...
AI Overview:
According to end-times prophecy, immediately after the Antichrist [Trump] finishes his mission—which culminates in a seven-year period of tribulation and a final attack on Jerusalem—he and his forces are defeated by the return of Jesus Christ.
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Re: After Trump

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Gavin Newsome will defeat JD Vance and win Presidency in 2028, so, more of the same for the foreseeable future. It will be similar to the Biden Administration except Leftists will spend enormous energy "getting revenge" against the former Trump Admin, the US economy will continue to back-slide, more US Dollar devaluation (ie. Inflation), and weaning US world hegemony as Newsome re-opens the US Southern border to invite another tens of millions of illegal aliens.

Those illegals will be used to bolster the Democrat voter-roles and Congressional seats through the census.
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Wizard22 wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2026 9:26 am Gavin Newsome will defeat JD Vance and win Presidency in 2028, so, more of the same for the foreseeable future. It will be similar to the Biden Administration except Leftists will spend enormous energy "getting revenge" against the former Trump Admin, the US economy will continue to back-slide, more US Dollar devaluation (ie. Inflation), and weaning US world hegemony as Newsome re-opens the US Southern border to invite another tens of millions of illegal aliens.

Those illegals will be used to bolster the Democrat voter-roles and Congressional seats through the census.
That dystopian view hinges on the first two words, so they require the attention and analysis.
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This became tedious about half-way through.
I imagine the ending was spectacular.
What do you think?

The Gavin Newsome of Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnzI8q5 ... rt_radio=1
Walker
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Re: After Trump

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Gavin Newsome performs: Rebuilding Pacific Palisades.
Lots of talk, no action.
The victims are slouching into the second year of Newsome incompetence.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jCzVh7nP ... ture=share
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Re: After Trump

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It's not that Gavin Newsome is a good candidate, or even wanted by the majority of Americans--rather it is that Americans have become tired of the internal struggle between Trump and the Uniparty Establishment. Many want a return to "normalcy" and peace, although I personally believe, that's not coming back anytime soon. So an overwhelming majority will choose to vote for Newsome over JD Vance.

On top of these estimations, Trump has really only catered to his Zionist-Globalist-Israeli friends, like Miriam Adelson, who financed his 3rd campaign and won it for him. Without these financers, he wouldn't have made it to the finish line. These same Zionists are doing all that they can, a LOT, to pull America into a ground-war with Iran. His financers want US boots on the ground, and US blood to spill for their behalf.

The bill is becoming Due for President Donald Trump ...and they have full intent to collect on it, with interest.
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Wizard22 wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2026 7:41 am ...Zionist-Globalist-Israeli friends, like Miriam Adelson, who financed his 3rd campaign and won it for him. Without these financers...
Like I said before, people like you simply can't use words like "financier" without actually meaning jewy-jewy-jews. Same goes for "globalist" of course.
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Re: After Trump

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Wizard22 wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2026 7:41 am
A lot of folks who equate words with reality (and intelligence) eat-up that kind of Newsome BS, so the any-means-necessary philosophy could indeed win him the prize.
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Impenitent wrote: Sat Feb 28, 2026 5:14 pm effective social programs for all...

free everything for everyone equals nothing for anyone
Feels like you completely forget about the european countries that actually have effective social programs.
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Re: After Trump

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FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2026 1:36 pmLike I said before, people like you simply can't use words like "financier" without actually meaning jewy-jewy-jews. Same goes for "globalist" of course.
So Trump decided to attack Iran, and now threatens invasion by Western forces, but it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Jews and Israel, correct?

Shall I quote you on this???
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Re: After Trump

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Walker wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2026 2:20 pmA lot of folks who equate words with reality (and intelligence) eat-up that kind of Newsome BS, so the any-means-necessary philosophy could indeed win him the prize.
I'm pretty in tune with American Geo-Politics. It's obvious that Newsome will win 2028 handily. You can place your bet on it safely.

It has nothing to do with what "I want". "I want" JD Vance to win and Conservatives to stay in power. Reality doesn't matter what "I want". Reality only matters what is.
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