US and Israel attack Iran

[Walker]

Every AI war simulation ends with the bomb.

Who's programming the priority?

[Walker]

Trump's words were quite clear.

They will never, ever have a bomb. (As I recall.)

Simple and clear. That's what it boils down to.

Should the fundamentalist maniacs have the bomb?

In the recent negotiations Trump offered them all the uranium they needed for medicine, agriculture, that kind of stuff.

For free.

They refused.

[Gary Childress]

So, who here is an American and is proud of what our country has done? Apparently over 100 people were killed when a school full of children was bombed. I mean, what can any American do to make up for that? If there's a "Heaven", should ANY of us get in? Are we fighting a "holy" war? God is "with us"?

[Walker]

They say an incompetent Iranian screwed up a launch.

Who are you gonna believe. Pinpoint accuracy of the Jews targeting the little children and not other civilian targets ... or some nitwit in a panic?

So far it's just Iranian reports, eagerly passed on.

What's the word for religiously sanctioned lying?

[Walker]

Taqiyya. Yeah. That's the word.

Do you always believe the taqiyyaists?

Gary, they even tell you up front. Come on.

[Gary Childress]

They say an incompetent Iranian screwed up a launch.

Who are you gonna believe. Pinpoint accuracy of the Jews targeting the little children and not other civilian targets ... or some nitwit in a panic?

So far it's just Iranian reports, eagerly passed on.

What's the word for religiously sanctioned lying?

At this point I'm skeptical of believing anyone. However, from the sounds of it, both sides appear to be confirming the death of Iranian civilians. Who is responsible is unclear. The US is no saint regarding lying in wartime, calling civilians who were killed "enemy combatants" on occasions in Afghanistan for example.

We started the "conflict". So Trump basically "made them an offer they couldn't refuse" (as the classic mafia adage goes).

[Walker]

Gary.

The conflict is 47 years old.

Trump has not been president for 47 years.

He is the 47th president.

Trump is ending it, not starting it.

Who will fill the power vacuum? More of the same, or those beholden to unconditional terms?

[Gary Childress]

Gary.

The conflict is 47 years old.

Trump has not been president for 47 years.

He is the 47th president.

Trump is ending it, not starting it.

Who will fill the power vacuum? More of the same, or those beholden to unconditional terms?

Trump is President right now and right now he is basically affirming why Iran is thinking about procuring nuclear weapons to begin with, to stave off foreign bullying.

Do we even know if Iran is actively pursuing nukes at this point or are they more accurately not bending to our demands (which amount to an ultimatum) to never acquire them? According to what I've seen Iran's nuclear weapons program is currently on hold according to official Iranian sources. Are we going to repeat what happened in Iraq and attack a country that had no WMDs?

[Gary Childress]

@ Walker:

And in what way is Trump any different from other US Presidents who have gotten us bogged down in indefinite foreign wars? Conservatives did it once to us voting for George Bush in 2000. Now you've done it again in 2025. At least Obama and Biden didn't get us involved in new wars when they were presidents.

You people seem to screw us over every time in politics, picking the biggest losers of the pack who then royally fuck us over.

[Impenitent]

this war started with the peanut farmer...

-Imp

[Gary Childress]

this war started with the peanut farmer...

-Imp

The "peanut farmer" didn't put "boots on the ground" to carry out his will. Bush Sr. and Reagan did, though.

[phyllo]

Started by Eisenhower in 1953 when a CIA operation overthrew the government and installed the shah?

[Impenitent]

this war started with the peanut farmer...

-Imp

The "peanut farmer" didn't put "boots on the ground" to carry out his will. Bush Sr. and Reagan did, though.

no, peanut allowed Americans to be held hostage

Ronnie got sworn in and poof! no more hostages

-Imp

[Walker]

Started by Eisenhower in 1953 when a CIA operation overthrew the government and installed the shah?

79 - prime (Carter)
53 - prime (Shah)
47 - prime (Trump)
179 - prime (total)
1 + 7 + 9 = prime

Looks like Iran was primed.
Facts are facts, which might cause folks to avoid cracks.

AI did predict the day of the beginning of ... the end?
Prime calculus?

[Walker]

Unconditional surrender brought on by a deal you can't refuse.

God-father terms.