Gaza Crisis: Are we morally wrong?

[Gary Childress]

Please explain to everybody what the different kinds of wrong there are and how are they differentiated. Starting with defining wrong and right, what are relative to some end. What is that end, what is the purpose of the judgement, how is that judgment arrived at, etc.
A judgment which produces behavior is either right or wrong in accordance with some standard of achievement, so what the fuck is moral right or wrong?

Or is being a professional windbag more satisfying?

Death and mass destruction of human beings is a moral wrong. Do you agree or do you disagree?

No I do not. As a mind has only one job to do, only one means of doing that job. I just call those with the mental handicap of illiteracy, savages who, if they knew something was wrong, would simply not do it
A congenital defect is not a moral wrong. It is lack of biological development. Do you call anyone born with a handicap a moral wrong, or a genetic defect? People do right and wrong because they are either intelligent, or stupid. That is not a moral issue, but a great deal of which is a social and educational issue.

The above doesn't sound like a very intelligent answer to the question of whether or not death and mass destruction of human beings is a moral wrong.

[Fairy]

Oh rascal children of Gaza,

You who constantly disturbed me with your screams under my window,

You who filled every morning with rush and chaos,

You who broke my vase and stole the lonely flower on my balcony,

Come back –

And scream as you want,

And break all the vases,

Steal all the flowers,

Come back,

Just come back…

[Gary Childress]

Oh rascal children of Gaza,

You who constantly disturbed me with your screams under my window,

You who filled every morning with rush and chaos,

You who broke my vase and stole the lonely flower on my balcony,

Come back –

And scream as you want,

And break all the vases,

Steal all the flowers,

Come back,

Just come back…

I assume "coming back" is not a realistic option, however, everyone refusing to participate in similar mass slaughter in the future maybe is. Of course, it has to be a mutual thing, however, I'm not sure if some breaking the prohibition counts as an excuse for creating 'open season' on those not directly responsible for breaking it first (innocent civilians of Gaza who had nothing to do with Oct 7).

[Phil8659]

Death and mass destruction of human beings is a moral wrong. Do you agree or do you disagree?

No I do not. As a mind has only one job to do, only one means of doing that job. I just call those with the mental handicap of illiteracy, savages who, if they knew something was wrong, would simply not do it
A congenital defect is not a moral wrong. It is lack of biological development. Do you call anyone born with a handicap a moral wrong, or a genetic defect? People do right and wrong because they are either intelligent, or stupid. That is not a moral issue, but a great deal of which is a social and educational issue.

The above doesn't sound like a very intelligent answer to the question of whether or not death and mass destruction of human beings is a moral wrong.

Well the next time I catch an earthquake, or volcano, or comet, or tsunami wiping our a lot of people, I will ask it what it thinks. Or if it feels bad about it. Or next time we have a war, I will make sure that mankind will get the death penalty for killing himself.

So, how many kinds of right and wrong are there? Could you make me a list? I always believed it was just being right or wrong as a matter of information processing. And maybe we should arrest all the women in the world, for every child they have, they have passed a death sentence on a moral human being.
Damned, I always believed that a woman was the mother of all life.
Any way, I would like you to explain to me, how a woodpecker is or is not a moral bird.

You see, right and wrong are only possible for those who are mentally capable of making a judgment. If you do not understand that, then you claim, yourself to be immoral. Secondly, if you can make the judgment call, you can only make right, or moral ones.

[Fairy]

Oh rascal children of Gaza,

You who constantly disturbed me with your screams under my window,

You who filled every morning with rush and chaos,

You who broke my vase and stole the lonely flower on my balcony,

Come back –

And scream as you want,

And break all the vases,

Steal all the flowers,

Come back,

Just come back…

I assume "coming back" is not a realistic option, however, everyone refusing to participate in similar mass slaughter in the future maybe is. Of course, it has to be a mutual thing, however, I'm not sure if some breaking the prohibition counts as an excuse for creating 'open season' on those not directly responsible for breaking it first (innocent civilians of Gaza who had nothing to do with Oct 7).

We’re all sentenced to death just by being born. Do you have any solutions to this dilemma?

[Gary Childress]

No I do not. As a mind has only one job to do, only one means of doing that job. I just call those with the mental handicap of illiteracy, savages who, if they knew something was wrong, would simply not do it
A congenital defect is not a moral wrong. It is lack of biological development. Do you call anyone born with a handicap a moral wrong, or a genetic defect? People do right and wrong because they are either intelligent, or stupid. That is not a moral issue, but a great deal of which is a social and educational issue.

The above doesn't sound like a very intelligent answer to the question of whether or not death and mass destruction of human beings is a moral wrong.

Well the next time I catch an earthquake, or volcano, or comet, or tsunami wiping our a lot of people, I will ask it what it thinks. Or if it feels bad about it. Or next time we have a war, I will make sure that mankind will get the death penalty for killing himself.

So, how many kinds of right and wrong are there? Could you make me a list? I always believed it was just being right or wrong as a matter of information processing. And maybe we should arrest all the women in the world, for every child they have, they have passed a death sentence on a moral human being.
Damned, I always believed that a woman was the mother of all life.
Any way, I would like you to explain to me, how a woodpecker is or is not a moral bird.

Do you not think there is such a thing as 'morality'?

[Gary Childress]

Oh rascal children of Gaza,

You who constantly disturbed me with your screams under my window,

You who filled every morning with rush and chaos,

You who broke my vase and stole the lonely flower on my balcony,

Come back –

And scream as you want,

And break all the vases,

Steal all the flowers,

Come back,

Just come back…

I assume "coming back" is not a realistic option, however, everyone refusing to participate in similar mass slaughter in the future maybe is. Of course, it has to be a mutual thing, however, I'm not sure if some breaking the prohibition counts as an excuse for creating 'open season' on those not directly responsible for breaking it first (innocent civilians of Gaza who had nothing to do with Oct 7).

We’re all sentenced to death just by being born. Do you have any solutions to this dilemma?

No. Unfortunately, we all seem to be pretty much screwed in that respect.

[Phil8659]

The above doesn't sound like a very intelligent answer to the question of whether or not death and mass destruction of human beings is a moral wrong.

Well the next time I catch an earthquake, or volcano, or comet, or tsunami wiping our a lot of people, I will ask it what it thinks. Or if it feels bad about it. Or next time we have a war, I will make sure that mankind will get the death penalty for killing himself.

So, how many kinds of right and wrong are there? Could you make me a list? I always believed it was just being right or wrong as a matter of information processing. And maybe we should arrest all the women in the world, for every child they have, they have passed a death sentence on a moral human being.
Damned, I always believed that a woman was the mother of all life.
Any way, I would like you to explain to me, how a woodpecker is or is not a moral bird.

Do you not think there is such a thing as 'morality'?

I always though that if you cannot define a word, you cannot determine its application. Stupid right? Don't mind me, I am not a very intelligent guy.

[Gary Childress]

Well the next time I catch an earthquake, or volcano, or comet, or tsunami wiping our a lot of people, I will ask it what it thinks. Or if it feels bad about it. Or next time we have a war, I will make sure that mankind will get the death penalty for killing himself.

So, how many kinds of right and wrong are there? Could you make me a list? I always believed it was just being right or wrong as a matter of information processing. And maybe we should arrest all the women in the world, for every child they have, they have passed a death sentence on a moral human being.
Damned, I always believed that a woman was the mother of all life.
Any way, I would like you to explain to me, how a woodpecker is or is not a moral bird.

Do you not think there is such a thing as 'morality'?

I always though that if you cannot define a word, you cannot determine its application. Stupid right?

Fair enough.

[Phil8659]

Do you not think there is such a thing as 'morality'?

I always though that if you cannot define a word, you cannot determine its application. Stupid right?

Fair enough.

Do you know why, God is portrayed as a horror shit show, and savior of man in the Bible?
Think about it.
The answer is given in Plato, and put into a simple sentence by Aristotle,
That which has a function, exists for that function.
You can either judge which is always right, or you cannot judge at all. Do you really believe that mankind is capable of judgment. Trust me, judgement does not take an adjective.

[Gary Childress]

I always though that if you cannot define a word, you cannot determine its application. Stupid right?

Fair enough.

Do you know why, God is portrayed as a horror shit show, and savior of man in the Bible?
Think about it.

Because he's top of the food chain and can do whatever he wants?

[Phil8659]

Fair enough.

Do you know why, God is portrayed as a horror shit show, and savior of man in the Bible?
Think about it.

Because he's top of the food chain and can do whatever he wants?

That is a brainless answer.
What is the only job a functional mind can do? And if it cannot do its job, do we say a mind is moral or immoral, or do we say functional or dysfunctional?
So God has balls, and jacks off all the time? Really? Sucks to be God, don't it.

So, who are gods parents?

[Gary Childress]

Do you know why, God is portrayed as a horror shit show, and savior of man in the Bible?
Think about it.

Because he's top of the food chain and can do whatever he wants?

That is a brainless answer.
What is the only job a functional mind can do? And if it cannot do its job, do we say a mind is moral or immoral, or do we say functional or dysfunctional?
So God has balls, and jacks off all the time? Really?

Sorry, I must be deficient, then. I thought for sure drowning almost everyone in a flood wouldn't count as "moral" and thus God can do whatever s/he wants.

[Phil8659]

Because he's top of the food chain and can do whatever he wants?

That is a brainless answer.
What is the only job a functional mind can do? And if it cannot do its job, do we say a mind is moral or immoral, or do we say functional or dysfunctional?
So God has balls, and jacks off all the time? Really?

Sorry, I must be deficient, then. I thought for sure drowning almost everyone in a flood wouldn't count as "moral".

That is a very primitive mind you have there, you are clearly incapable of being a moral person.
Is it not written, that you shall not be a respecter of persons great or small? And now you say the Jolly Green Giant, being big, can do what the fuck he wants.

[Gary Childress]

That is a brainless answer.
What is the only job a functional mind can do? And if it cannot do its job, do we say a mind is moral or immoral, or do we say functional or dysfunctional?
So God has balls, and jacks off all the time? Really?

Sorry, I must be deficient, then. I thought for sure drowning almost everyone in a flood wouldn't count as "moral".

That is a very primitive mind you have there, you are clearly incapable of being a moral person.

Call me "primitive" then. Maybe that would qualify me for death and mass destruction?