Does gender matter?

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Alexiev wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 4:44 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Nov 02, 2025 4:27 am
You don't really know what he meant, or you wouldn't be quoting it in this context.
But who can know the mind of God?
Well, HE can, that's for sure. And He can tell you what He expects. And He has. And you get to decide whether to listen or not.

I guess you can always try the excuses, "The medium didn't please me," or "The message didn't come across sweetly enough to me" when you see Him. I don't like your chances, but you can try it. And you will see Him, as will we all.
Excuses? What the heck are you talking about? I accuse you of failing in your missionary capacity, and you say I'm making "excuses". Huh? What does that have to do with the price of fish in China?
It is just further tactics of deception that "immanuel can", the 'devil', itself, uses.
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I guess all these discussions mean that gender and sex matters a lot. Suppose God will judge us, does it matter what our sex or gender is?
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Jori wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 1:17 am I guess all these discussions mean that gender and sex matters a lot. Suppose God will judge us, does it matter what our sex or gender is?
Well, there's no such thing as "gender" -- at least in application to human beings. There's just sex: XX and XY. (Genetic anomalies only take us back to the same norm, they don't locate a different "gender." And the vast majority of those who claim confusion on this point are not genetic anomalies anyway.)

But if God assigns us a particular role in life, then our duty is to find the best way to fulfill that role. If he has made us athletic, it's to be an honest and hard-working athlete. If we've been creative, then it's to be profitably creative. If he's made us skilled at showing compassion, then it's to be appropriately compassionate. And if he's made us strong, it's to defend those who are weak. Whatever God has given us, that is our stewardship responsibility. And it's our duty to become the best "you" and the best "me" we can be, using whatever God has given us. That's what we're here to do.

He has given us a sex. We are either male or female. And it is our duty to live as what God has made in a grateful, humble and diligent way...not to try to convince other people that we are not what God has made us to be, far less to resent ourselves for what God has made us to be. We have a role to play; and the challenge of every human person is to be the best "him" or "her" that he or she can be.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 3:50 am
Jori wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 1:17 am I guess all these discussions mean that gender and sex matters a lot. Suppose God will judge us, does it matter what our sex or gender is?
Well, there's no such thing as "gender" -- at least in application to human beings. There's just sex: XX and XY. (Genetic anomalies only take us back to the same norm, they don't locate a different "gender." And the vast majority of those who claim confusion on this point are not genetic anomalies anyway.)

You should have stopped here, while you were ahead. How can someone be so logical on one level, yet bat-shit insane on another? Fascinating..
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accelafine wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 4:29 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 3:50 am
Jori wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 1:17 am I guess all these discussions mean that gender and sex matters a lot. Suppose God will judge us, does it matter what our sex or gender is?
Well, there's no such thing as "gender" -- at least in application to human beings. There's just sex: XX and XY. (Genetic anomalies only take us back to the same norm, they don't locate a different "gender." And the vast majority of those who claim confusion on this point are not genetic anomalies anyway.)

You should have stopped here, while you were ahead. How can someone be so logical on one level, yet bat-shit insane on another? Fascinating..
I live to fascinate you. :wink:
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Male, Female, two aspects of one thing, our common species.
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But if God assigns us a particular role in life, then our duty is to find the best way to fulfill that role. If he has made us athletic, it's to be an honest and hard-working athlete. If we've been creative, then it's to be profitably creative. If he's made us skilled at showing compassion, then it's to be appropriately compassionate. And if he's made us strong, it's to defend those who are weak. Whatever God has given us, that is our stewardship responsibility. And it's our duty to become the best "you" and the best "me" we can be, using whatever God has given us. That's what we're here to do.

He has given us a sex. We are either male or female. And it is our duty to live as what God has made in a grateful, humble and diligent way...not to try to convince other people that we are not what God has made us to be, far less to resent ourselves for what God has made us to be. We have a role to play; and the challenge of every human person is to be the best "him" or "her" that he or she can be.
God doesn't assign us anything. Nobody is issued a set of instructions at birth.

There are hundreds of ways for an "athletic" person to live, for a "strong" person to live. And for a "male" to live, a "female" to live.
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phyllo wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 2:22 pm
But if God assigns us a particular role in life, then our duty is to find the best way to fulfill that role. If he has made us athletic, it's to be an honest and hard-working athlete. If we've been creative, then it's to be profitably creative. If he's made us skilled at showing compassion, then it's to be appropriately compassionate. And if he's made us strong, it's to defend those who are weak. Whatever God has given us, that is our stewardship responsibility. And it's our duty to become the best "you" and the best "me" we can be, using whatever God has given us. That's what we're here to do.

He has given us a sex. We are either male or female. And it is our duty to live as what God has made in a grateful, humble and diligent way...not to try to convince other people that we are not what God has made us to be, far less to resent ourselves for what God has made us to be. We have a role to play; and the challenge of every human person is to be the best "him" or "her" that he or she can be.
God doesn't assign us anything.
He does, but let's pretend it's only "nature" that does it. It's still strictly binary.

But I think you'll find that there are better and worse ways to be any kind of person in this world. And why we should choose the better, and not opt for the worst, is the subject of morality generally. But certainly, since "nature" (as you say) or God (as I would say) has constructed our situation in terms of male and female, to resist that is to resist the basic, simple facts of the universe.
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He does, but let's pretend it's only "nature" that does it. It's still strictly binary.
Nature also doesn't assign us anything.
But certainly, since "nature" (as you say)...
I don't say that.

Nature has physical limits. But within the limits one is free to act.
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Jori wrote: Wed Oct 29, 2025 3:03 am There used to be only two genders – male and female – but now we see a proliferation of more than twenty genders. For some people, their gender and pronouns are big deal, but for me, I don’t care what my gender is or of people mistake my gender. What matters to me is my character, whatever my gender may be.
The universe made two genders, which is all about procreation. That is in fact the norm. If people want to change themselves it whatever way, that's their prerogative, their life, their business. But I don't see that everyone else should have to bend over backwards to humor them, their business, their problem. It's hard to teach old dogs, new tricks, because they're set in their ways. So to all those that chose to butcher themselves, or however you may want to phrase it, because the're unhappy, or whatever, don't come whining to me, because I can only interpret what I'm accustomed to seeing. It's your bag of tricks, and I am in no way responsible. So man, woman or whatever up, and take responsibility for your decision. It has nothing to do with me.

My old wife, was fired because some "thing," wanted my old wife, to bend her way verbally, when my OLD one eyed wife that has a cataract brewing in her good eye, and was ostracized from others, that made fun of her when she was growing up, that created mental scars, that's lasted a lifetime, could only see what she was accustomed to seeing. Why didn't the "young thing" bend my wife's way, all things social being equal. Fuck anyone that demands that they should be allowed to dictate to another, that they can't make a mistake unknowingly, without losing their job. The company that fired her was Starbucks.
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This arose from militant feminists' frustration with gender roles and their movement, emerging with the gay movement. A theatre of the absurd follows closely, and leads to children having their balls cut off before the power of reason was even due to set in. It is just in sane that this topic is debated. This, I believe, is limited to the West; the rest of the world is peeing their pants laughing. I feel it is a sign of the decline of the West.
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popeye1945 wrote: Tue Dec 02, 2025 5:31 pm This arose from militant feminists' frustration with gender roles and their movement, emerging with the gay movement. A theatre of the absurd follows closely, and leads to children having their balls cut off before the power of reason was even due to set in. It is just in sane that this topic is debated. This, I believe, is limited to the West; the rest of the world is peeing their pants laughing. I feel it is a sign of the decline of the West.
Oh right, of course WOMEN must be to blame. So-called 'trans' ideology is ALL about sex stereotypes. In fact it's the exact OPPOSITE of what feminists were saying. It actually began with the addition of 'T' to the LGB alphabet. Then again, how can anyone tell at what point something 'begins' anyway? It REALLY took off when men realised that they could get all kinds of 'goodies' if they claimed that they were ACTUAL women who 'just happened' to have a balls and penis. They have managed to gaslight the world into believing they are the most 'vulnerable and oppressed' group of people on the planet. JFC, it doesn't get any more bat-shit insane than that. Imagine the PR money a scam of that magnitute would involve.
The mutilation of children is a by-product with a number of contributing factors--social media, fashion fad, attention-desperate munchausen mothers, paedophiles and other perverts in high places, money (so-called 'gender affirming care' has grown into a very lucrative industry), brain-washing at school and earlier (think 'drag storytimes' etc.)....Children didn't have a hope.
No feminist EVER said that chldren should be given health-destroying puberty blockers so that they will conform to society's rigid sex stereotypes, or that a woman is just a man who says he's one.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 3:50 am
Jori wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 1:17 am I guess all these discussions mean that gender and sex matters a lot. Suppose God will judge us, does it matter what our sex or gender is?
Well, there's no such thing as "gender" -- at least in application to human beings. There's just sex: XX and XY. (Genetic anomalies only take us back to the same norm, they don't locate a different "gender." And the vast majority of those who claim confusion on this point are not genetic anomalies anyway.)
SEX is biological, there are two, even taking into account the XXY and XYY males. But there ARE some biological males (by genetics) that will be labeled female at birth because of genetic abnormalities preventing fetal development as males.

GENDER is social. Most human societies have two, but a few have more than two. For example, the Faʻafāfine gender of Samoan culture (this is NOT the same as trans men identifying as women, since fa'afafine is considered a distinct gender. In recent times some North American native peoples have adopted the term two-spirit to also mean a third gender.
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MikeNovack wrote: Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:09 pm ...there ARE some biological males (by genetics) that will be labeled female at birth because of genetic abnormalities preventing fetal development as males.
Two things about these: firstly, they're extremely rare. And secondly, they're the anomaly that proves the rule. We can speak about them only because there are two sexes, and no more.
GENDER is social.
No. It's fictional. There is only sex.
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MikeNovack wrote: Tue Dec 02, 2025 8:09 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 3:50 am
Jori wrote: Wed Nov 05, 2025 1:17 am I guess all these discussions mean that gender and sex matters a lot. Suppose God will judge us, does it matter what our sex or gender is?
Well, there's no such thing as "gender" -- at least in application to human beings. There's just sex: XX and XY. (Genetic anomalies only take us back to the same norm, they don't locate a different "gender." And the vast majority of those who claim confusion on this point are not genetic anomalies anyway.)
SEX is biological, there are two, even taking into account the XXY and XYY males. But there ARE some biological males (by genetics) that will be labeled female at birth because of genetic abnormalities preventing fetal development as males.

GENDER is social. Most human societies have two, but a few have more than two. For example, the Faʻafāfine gender of Samoan culture (this is NOT the same as trans men identifying as women, since fa'afafine is considered a distinct gender. In recent times some North American native peoples have adopted the term two-spirit to also mean a third gender.
Fa'afine are MEN. They know they are men and have never claimed to be otherwise.

'Two spirit' is made-up white woke bullshit.

There is no such thing as gender. It's used by coy American puritans because they don't like to say the word 'sex'. What do you think those American 'gender reveal' parties are 'revealing' exactly?

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