Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 1:13 pm
SpheresOfBalance wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 6:21 am
Actually my ignorance of the Jewish people is great. All that I know of is Hanukkah, I know what a menorah is but not the significance of it's 9 candles, a yamaka I had to wear once when I was a teenager, I was a pallbearer for a Jewish woman that didn't have much family left, she was buried in a non orthodox cemetery, so we didn't have to place Ivy on her grave. Actually as a kid I liked the orthodox side better because I didn't have to mow those graves.
kids! The adult that ran the place didn't trust us kids to prune the Ivy. As a kid I was surprised to learn that Hamburger was actually a Jewish family name, Cohen was easily known due to my knowing of some people in entertainment.
But I've never had anything against any culture or religion. Because I understand religion for what it is, culture, history. Someone that is born to a particular culture usually adopts that cultures belief system, in all its particulars.
A couple of thoughts. If you are unknowledgeable about Jewish history it will not be hard for you to understand that the same is so for most people. It is curious: Can you (can one) even define what a Jew is? The answer is actually no. And yet to be able to answer that question is really fundamental to understanding something foundational to Occidental culture -- literally to civilization. You may have noticed that lately I have been trying to get people to listen to some of Nick Fuentes' diatribes. Quite literally that is what they are:
My point is that I see that all people as the same, I don't care what their particulars are. I know what a Jew is, it's a human being, like us all, that believes, at least in some part, in the Jewish faith. And I don't care about anything more than that. As long as they're good people that believe in "LIVE AND LET LIVE". Every life is born of this universe, and as such deserves to live in peace. The problem with those that believe otherwise is their selfishness, these people can't see past their own nose. They're blinded by self, believing falsely that their self is that with which all others MUST be compared. They absolutely DO NOT understand Human Differentiation, which of course is ALL HUMANS, ALL INCLUSIVE. They're blinded by their FEAR of DEATH and blame everyone for it. They're very sick people, that can't see the TRUTH of things that this UNIVERSE provides. If they only opened their eyes, ears and minds eye as life has unfolded and could see the BIG PICTURE, they'd be enlightened and no longer selfish in their fear of death, as in the end, we're all completely equal. So while we live, we should all forget those petty differences, that really make no difference, like what one believes. Not all of us can currently be science minded, as we are all not equally knowledgeable through education and understanding that BIGGEST PICTURE OF THEM ALL, namely, LIFE IN THIS UNIVERSE.
diatribe (ˈdaɪəˌtraɪb)
n
a bitter or violent criticism or attack; denunciation
[C16: from Latin diatriba learned debate, from Greek diatribē discourse, pastime, from diatribein to while away, from dia- + tribein to rub]
In the past I've always used the third definition which is in fact "archaic: a prolonged discourse." I guess I'll have to start using "discourse" instead.
There are two aspects to his diatribes. One is that they do have a 'learned' aspect. That is, that his views, especially of Jewish and Israeli influence within American policy, is entirely real, accurate and also fair. In my mind there is no doubt about this. It hardly needs to be debated. But to understand Fuentes, and through Fuentes to his overall young, male American audience (but note that he has international reach mostly in the English-speaking world), one must understand that these people do not have a well-rounded understanding of about Jews, Judaism, Jewish history in Europe, and the influence of Hebraism:
I don't care what some individuals say, I don't align myself with anyone that doesn't see the absolute truth of things, the ALL inclusivity that is actually the state of the human race. Petty particulars in the minds of fools do not interest me, only the truth of humanity does. I know nothing of Fuentes, only that his name sounds of Spanish origin, and I could care less about where he's from. I love all good peoples of this earth. I feel sorry for all those that are misguided, those that try and separate us from being all inclusive, not understanding human differentiation. Those that don't understand that concept are forever trying to draw arbitrary lines in the sand that are in fact meaningless.
3. The culture, spirit, or character of the Hebrew people.
4. Judaism.
I try not to group peoples BELIEFS, as much as possible, into large groups and talk about them as if they all definitely believe exactly the same things. As I know it's not a true supposition.
Having spent a good deal of time reading and listening to people in this class, I notice a few things. One, they do not have a 'fair' understanding of the intense influence of Hebraic thought on Europe. Two, to the degree that they reject the spirit of Christianity they must concomitantly reject what is essential in Judaism (I prefer Hebraism). To the degree that they reject both Christianity and Judaism is the degree to which they quite literally reject things that are foundational to their own selves: i.e. to the literal construct of personality, outlook, ethics and values. And to the degree that they are severed from these understandings, is also the degree to which they become susceptible to what can fairly and realistically be described as genuine 'antisemitism'. But as I say: antisemitism is a very complex and fraught topic. In no sense is it simple. But here is a curious fact: with the advent of the Nietzschean perspective intellectual Europe did in fact veer toward a resounding condemnation of the Christian
matrix. It extends far beyond mere 'belief' (i.e. being a 'believing and practicing Christian). To reject both Hebraism and Christianity is also to reject elements in the very foundation of the European self.
I also don't like the word "class", especially when it calls into question, social rank. I find the whole idea as especially RANK! It reeks of an awful stench. Money has absolutely nothing to do with intellect, which in fact, is all that matters.
Now, try to make that perspective intelligible to the young Groypers! It is a hard sell. I will offer one reference: Adam Green of Know More News. (He used to have a platform on YouTube but was kicked off and posts in other places, and he is not technically a Groyper because he throughly rejects Christianity and Judaism). I am aware that people who participate here do not follow significant 'influencers' like Green, like Fuentes, like Greg Johnson (Counter-Currents) and I should point out that the real influencers for a great deal that we see in our present have roots not only in Green, Fuentes and Johnson, but in reality in thinkers that are hardly household names and anteceded them. These are the right-tending political theorists whose works are not read and whose ideas are suppressed. The so-called "march through the [Occidental] institutions" is the reason for this.
I try to point out to Alexiev that he must understand his opponents. But as he puts it he resolutely refuses. When you refuse to understand you
negate a perspective. And when you negate perspectives you negate people. And people do not react well to this.
Fact. Now this becomes problematic, yet interesting, because he (Alexiev) represents here the Hyper-Liberal Academic Establishment that dominates the American university. They are dreamy, idealistic, rather stoned, and quite lopsided. These people are informed by one main current. They are not rounded thinkers. Here on this forum I could reference Flash -- a total reactionary -- but also Gary and numerous others. These are people who have been intensely indoctrinated in one camp of thought. They literally cannot see beyond the parameters of their indoctrination. So, they are unable to understand what is rising around them, politically, socially and also spiritually. They retreat into fortifications of misunderstanding where conversation with others is rendered impossible, because they
refuse.
I could develop these ideas even more. I mean I could explain in detail, but not necessarily in negative terms, why Europe rejected Christianity and why the Nietzschean perspective became, allow me to say,
necessary. I could present thinkers who offer coherent analysis of what the recovery of pagan
being entails, but if I did that I would, quite literally, have to refer to that right-tending political and social theory which in our present is classified as fascistic. And indeed it is. But to speak fairly about the contrast between Liberalism (or hyper-liberalism) and structured right-tending political and social theory is, in fact, a forbidden conversation.
So, when you (when 'one', when 'we') repress viable, significant, defensibly and contrary modes of thought -- this hyper-liberalism certainly does -- it goes underground and festers. And then it erupts. And its eruption is reactionary.
But I've never had anything against any culture or religion. Because I understand religion for what it is, culture, history. Someone that is born to a particular culture usually adopts that cultures belief system, in all its particulars.
Sure, I understand this. But the fact of the matter is that the present issue, the present conflict which is playing out in American culture today and centers around a groundswell of idea and feeling
against Israeli and American pro-Zionism ( a highjacked foreign policy), is of tremendous consequence for what I have called 'the Jewish project'. You ("one" "we") cannot understand the relevance of America to the historical Jewish project unless you have studied Jewish history, and thus you cannot understand the function of Israel and, indeed, the profound problem that Israel now presents and represents. A battle is just beginning and it is one of real consequence.
It is a very difficult conversation to broach for numerous reasons.
Any conversation on such matters is seen in a very negative light. It is contaminated and radioactive. And it must be understood that no one writing on this forum has any background in these issues to the degree that they can speak with even vague authority on the topic. They would have to be 'educated' and this would take weeks and months of reading.
Trying to change the minds individually, of approximately 9 billion people is a, 'from the bottom up strategy'. I'm trying a top down approach with the understanding of Human Differentiation. Humans are far too varied individually and have to get over their "can't see past their own nose" syndrome first. So thanks, but please don't waste your time with me in that way.
