Elon Musk, the first trillionaire?

[Gary Childress]

So investors investing with Musk's companies are giving Musk an incentive to produce more profit. They say they will make Musk a trillionaire by giving him monetary benefits if he increases the wealth of his companies above a certain level (or maybe it's just Tesla, I'm not 100% sure of all the details).

My questions are:

1) how badly will Musk seek those benefits? Will he do the unethical in order to achieve the profit his investors are seeking? Maybe look the other way while his subordinates cut corners to increase profits for him (at least until the scandals are publicly exposed, at which point Musk can say "shame on you for breaking the law" and then fire his subordinates at that point)?

And

2) Does any single human being on Earth bring that kind of value to a business? If a trillion in benefits are rewarded to Musk, then what will be the benefits that ordinary workers at Tesla will receive for dutifully carrying out Musk's wishes to achieve that goal for him? Are most of the other workers at Tesla only worth a few million or hundred thousand (or less)? Do ordinary rank and file workers not contribute to the wealth of a company?

I've worked for major corporations and have seen those very behaviors among CEOs. It's how exceptionally successful businesses become exceptionally more successful than other similar businesses around them. First one to squeeze a few unethical profits into a company (that other companies don't do) wins monopoly power. It's a real problem.

[seeds]

So investors investing with Musk's companies are giving Musk an incentive to produce more profit. They say they will make Musk a trillionaire by giving him monetary benefits if he increases the wealth of his companies above a certain level (or maybe it's just Tesla, I'm not 100% sure of all the details).

Just for visualization purposes, if you spent one thousand dollars per minute, it would take you more than one-million, nine-hundred-thousand years to burn through a trillion dollars.

Which should give one pause in realizing that the U.S. national debt currently stands at approximately 38 trillion dollars.
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[Gary Childress]

So investors investing with Musk's companies are giving Musk an incentive to produce more profit. They say they will make Musk a trillionaire by giving him monetary benefits if he increases the wealth of his companies above a certain level (or maybe it's just Tesla, I'm not 100% sure of all the details).

My questions are:

1) how badly will Musk seek those benefits? Will he do the unethical in order to achieve the profit his investors are seeking? Maybe look the other way while his subordinates cut corners to increase profits for him (at least until the scandals are publicly exposed, at which point Musk can say "shame on you for breaking the law" and then fire his subordinates at that point)?

And

2) Does any single human being on Earth bring that kind of value to a business? If a trillion in benefits are rewarded to Musk, then what will be the benefits that ordinary workers at Tesla will receive for dutifully carrying out Musk's wishes to achieve that goal for him? Are most of the other workers at Tesla only worth a few million or hundred thousand (or less)? Do ordinary rank and file workers not contribute to the wealth of a company?

I've worked for major corporations and have seen those very behaviors among CEOs. It's how exceptionally successful businesses become exceptionally more successful than other similar businesses around them. First one to squeeze a few unethical profits into a company (that other companies don't do) wins monopoly power. It's a real problem.

Just for visualization purposes, if you spent one thousand dollars per minute, it would take you more than one-million, nine-hundred-thousand years to burn through a trillion dollars.

Which should give one pause in realizing that the U.S. national debt currently stands at approximately 38 trillion dollars.
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Well if deficit spending is required to keep up social programs, then it's justified. However, if deficit spending is required to maintain empire and domination or to keep the wealthy wealthy, then it isn't.

[Age]

So investors investing with Musk's companies are giving Musk an incentive to produce more profit. They say they will make Musk a trillionaire by giving him monetary benefits if he increases the wealth of his companies above a certain level (or maybe it's just Tesla, I'm not 100% sure of all the details).

My questions are:

1) how badly will Musk seek those benefits?

If 'you' want to find and know the Truth, then I will, again, suggest asking 'the person', "them" 'self'.

Will he do the unethical in order to achieve the profit his investors are seeking?

Well considering that it has already done the unethical, in order to achieve the profit its investors are seeking, and there is no sign at all of changing, for the better, then 'this' might answer your question, here, for you.

Maybe look the other way while his subordinates cut corners to increase profits for him (at least until the scandals are publicly exposed, at which point Musk can say "shame on you for breaking the law" and then fire his subordinates at that point)?

And

2) Does any single human being on Earth bring that kind of value to a business?

What value is that, exactly? Are you referring to the number 1 with twelve zeros after it?

If a trillion in benefits are rewarded to Musk, then what will be the benefits that ordinary workers at Tesla will receive for dutifully carrying out Musk's wishes to achieve that goal for him?

Again, 'you' are best asking 'them', directly. And, as you may well be fully aware, you might get as many different answers as the people you ask.

Are most of the other workers at Tesla only worth a few million or hundred thousand (or less)?

Human beings, and/or people, are not worth 'money', 'dollars', nor 'numerical figures'.

Do ordinary rank and file workers not contribute to the wealth of a company?

Are you asking this from a Truly open perspective, with a curiosity for learning, or, are you asking this from an already knowing the answer perspective?

I've worked for major corporations and have seen those very behaviors among CEOs.

What very behaviors, exactly?

It's how exceptionally successful businesses become exceptionally more successful than other similar businesses around them.

How, exactly?

And, what defines an 'exceptionally successful business', to you, exactly?

Some consider a business that might have obtained more money, than other businesses, from unsuspecting customers, or 'suckers', as not being actually successful nor exceptionally successful, at all.

See, if any business is 'helping' in the cause or creation of 'human beings downfall' some consider is not a successful business, at all.

First one to squeeze a few unethical profits into a company (that other companies don't do) wins monopoly power. It's a real problem.

To me, a 'problem' is just a question posed for a solution.

So, what is the real and 'actual problem', here, exactly?

[Age]

So investors investing with Musk's companies are giving Musk an incentive to produce more profit. They say they will make Musk a trillionaire by giving him monetary benefits if he increases the wealth of his companies above a certain level (or maybe it's just Tesla, I'm not 100% sure of all the details).

My questions are:

1) how badly will Musk seek those benefits? Will he do the unethical in order to achieve the profit his investors are seeking? Maybe look the other way while his subordinates cut corners to increase profits for him (at least until the scandals are publicly exposed, at which point Musk can say "shame on you for breaking the law" and then fire his subordinates at that point)?

And

2) Does any single human being on Earth bring that kind of value to a business? If a trillion in benefits are rewarded to Musk, then what will be the benefits that ordinary workers at Tesla will receive for dutifully carrying out Musk's wishes to achieve that goal for him? Are most of the other workers at Tesla only worth a few million or hundred thousand (or less)? Do ordinary rank and file workers not contribute to the wealth of a company?

I've worked for major corporations and have seen those very behaviors among CEOs. It's how exceptionally successful businesses become exceptionally more successful than other similar businesses around them. First one to squeeze a few unethical profits into a company (that other companies don't do) wins monopoly power. It's a real problem.

Just for visualization purposes, if you spent one thousand dollars per minute, it would take you more than one-million, nine-hundred-thousand years to burn through a trillion dollars.

Which should give one pause in realizing that the U.S. national debt currently stands at approximately 38 trillion dollars.
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Well if deficit spending is required to keep up social programs, then it's justified. However, if deficit spending is required to maintain empire and domination or to keep the wealthy wealthy, then it isn't.

Thinking, or worse still believing, that money is needed in Life, and for living, then it is not, and can not be, justified.

Thinking, or believing, money is 'the solution' to 'problems', then this is why 'these people' are taking so, so long.

[Gary Childress]

So investors investing with Musk's companies are giving Musk an incentive to produce more profit. They say they will make Musk a trillionaire by giving him monetary benefits if he increases the wealth of his companies above a certain level (or maybe it's just Tesla, I'm not 100% sure of all the details).

My questions are:

1) how badly will Musk seek those benefits?

If 'you' want to find and know the Truth, then I will, again, suggest asking 'the person', "them" 'self'.

So are you saying I should find out if Musk will cheat to earn his trillion dollars for his company by asking Musk himself? Or if not, can you clarify what is meant by "asking them self"? Or who do I need to ask in order to find out if Musk is going to cheat?

[Gary Childress]

It's how exceptionally successful businesses become exceptionally more successful than other similar businesses around them.

How, exactly?

Sometimes, some CEOs will play dumb and pretend that they don't see unethical behaviors from their marketing or sales team that profit the company and then when the unethical behavior becomes public, they will fire the sales team but keep the profits that the sales team made. Conveniently, having their (referring to the CEOs) cake and eating it too, as the saying goes. In other words, the CEOs are profiting while remaining able to deny that they had anything to do with the unethical profits.

[seeds]

So investors investing with Musk's companies are giving Musk an incentive to produce more profit. They say they will make Musk a trillionaire by giving him monetary benefits if he increases the wealth of his companies above a certain level (or maybe it's just Tesla, I'm not 100% sure of all the details).

Just for visualization purposes, if you spent one thousand dollars per minute, it would take you more than one-million, nine-hundred-thousand years to burn through a trillion dollars.

Which should give one pause in realizing that the U.S. national debt currently stands at approximately 38 trillion dollars.
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Sorry, I made a mistake in trusting the number that Google AI initially gave to me.

I just now asked Google the same (spell-corrected) question I asked it yesterday which was this...

"...If you spend a thousand dollars a minute, how long would it take to go through a trillion dollars?..."

...to which it replied with the same answer (emphasis mine)...

It would take 1,902,587 years to spend a trillion dollars spending at a rate of $1,000 per minute. This is calculated by dividing a trillion dollars by $1,000, which equals one billion minutes. Converting this to years results in 1,902,587 years.

However, as I thought about it this morning, something seemed fishy about that number, so I did my own (Jethro Bodine style) calculations...

60 minutes in an hour times 24 hours equals 1,440 minutes in a day.

1,440 minutes in a day times 365 days equals 525,600 minutes in a year.

525,600 minutes in a year times 1,000 dollars equals 525,600,000 dollars spent per year (if spent at 1,000 dollars per minute).

525,600,000 dollars spent per year times Google AI's 1,902,587 years equals 999,999,727,200,000 dollars. That's over 999 trillion dollars.

The mistake is in the fact that (as you can see) the number that Google's AI Overview initially provided contained a comma after the 2 (1,902,587) instead of a decimal point (1,902.587) (of which it does correct if you click on the "show more" mode).

And even the corrected number may be wrong (can someone good at math please chime in here? I'm too lazy to do the further calculations )

Moral of the story: Be careful because you cannot always trust Google to supply a correct answer.

Again, my apologies for the error.
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[Gary Childress]

So investors investing with Musk's companies are giving Musk an incentive to produce more profit. They say they will make Musk a trillionaire by giving him monetary benefits if he increases the wealth of his companies above a certain level (or maybe it's just Tesla, I'm not 100% sure of all the details).

Just for visualization purposes, if you spent one thousand dollars per minute, it would take you more than one-million, nine-hundred-thousand years to burn through a trillion dollars.

Which should give one pause in realizing that the U.S. national debt currently stands at approximately 38 trillion dollars.
_______

Sorry, I made a mistake in trusting the number that Google AI initially gave to me.

I just now asked Google the same (spell-corrected) question I asked it yesterday which was this...

"...If you spend a thousand dollars a minute, how long would it take to go through a trillion dollars?..."

...to which it replied with the same answer (emphasis mine)...

It would take 1,902,587 years to spend a trillion dollars spending at a rate of $1,000 per minute. This is calculated by dividing a trillion dollars by $1,000, which equals one billion minutes. Converting this to years results in 1,902,587 years.

However, as I thought about it this morning, something seemed fishy about that number, so I did my own (Jethro Bodine style) calculations...

60 minutes in an hour times 24 hours equals 1,440 minutes in a day.

1,440 minutes in a day times 365 days equals 525,600 minutes in a year.

525,600 minutes in a year times 1,000 dollars equals 525,600,000 dollars spent per year (if spent at 1,000 dollars per minute).

525,600,000 dollars spent per year times Google AI's 1,902,587 years equals 999,999,727,200,000 dollars. That's over 999 trillion dollars.

The mistake is in the fact that (as you can see) the number that Google's AI Overview initially provided contained a comma after the 2 (1,902,587) instead of a decimal point (1,902.587) (of which it does correct if you click on the "show more" mode).

So, the actual number is roughly 1,902 years to burn through a trillion dollars at a thousand dollars per minute.

Moral of the story: Be careful because you cannot always trust Google to supply a correct answer.

Again, my apologies for the error.
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No worries.

[seeds]

No worries.

Dang it, Gary, you're too fast at responding.

In the edited version of my post, I wondered if even the corrected number (1,902 years) was accurate?

As I said, I'm too lazy to do my Jethro Bodine style of mathematics any further. Are there any math whizzes on site who can double check that number?
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[Gary Childress]

No worries.

Dang it, Gary, you're too fast at responding.

In the edited version of my post, I wondered if even the corrected number (1,902 years) was accurate?

As I said, I'm too lazy to do my Jethro Bodine style of mathematics any further. Are there any math whizzes on site who can double check that number?
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What are you trying to calculate?

[seeds]

No worries.

Dang it, Gary, you're too fast at responding.

In the edited version of my post, I wondered if even the corrected number (1,902 years) was accurate?

As I said, I'm too lazy to do my Jethro Bodine style of mathematics any further. Are there any math whizzes on site who can double check that number?
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What are you trying to calculate?

Never mind, I got it...

There are 525,600 minutes in a year.

If you multiply 525,600 minutes times 1,902 (years) it equals 999,691,200 minutes.

If you multiply 999,691,200 minutes times 1,000 (dollars) it equals 999,691,200,000 dollars (almost a trillion dollars).

So, the 1,902-year figure is pretty close.

Again, I'm just trying to help us visualize how much a trillion dollars is so that we can see what Elon (Scrooge) McMusk will be sitting atop.

Here's another way of visualizing it in stacks of 100-dollar bills on pallets...

https://preview.redd.it/a-cool-guide-fo ... 64f5508f39
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[Gary Childress]

Dang it, Gary, you're too fast at responding.

In the edited version of my post, I wondered if even the corrected number (1,902 years) was accurate?

As I said, I'm too lazy to do my Jethro Bodine style of mathematics any further. Are there any math whizzes on site who can double check that number?
_______

What are you trying to calculate?

Never mind, I got it...

There are 525,600 minutes in a year.

If you multiply 525,600 minutes times 1,902 (years) it equals 999,691,200 minutes.

If you multiply 999,691,200 minutes times 1,000 (dollars) it equals 999,691,200,000 dollars (almost a trillion dollars).

So, the 1,902-year figure is pretty close.

Again, I'm just trying to help us visualize how much a trillion dollars is so that we can see what Elon (Scrooge) McMusk will be sitting atop.

Here's another way of visualizing it in stacks of 100-dollar bills on pallets...

https://preview.redd.it/a-cool-guide-fo ... 64f5508f39
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Are you trying to find out how long it would take to spend 1 trillion dollars at X dollars/minute? If you tell me what the value of X is, I can tell you how long it would take to spend that money in minutes or years or whatever. I believe it would involve dividing fractions. I don't think I can explain the equation typing on a keyboard though. I'm rusty at math.

[seeds]

Are you trying to find out how long it would take to spend 1 trillion dollars at X dollars/minute?

Yes, and we've already figured out that if you spent a thousand dollars per minute it would take approximately 1,902 years to go through a trillion dollars.

Or, if you spent a million dollars per day, it would take approximately 2,739 years to reach a trillion.

Again, we're just trying to fathom the insanity of any one human (such as Scrooge McMusk) acquiring that much wealth while millions of children starve to death.
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[Age]

So investors investing with Musk's companies are giving Musk an incentive to produce more profit. They say they will make Musk a trillionaire by giving him monetary benefits if he increases the wealth of his companies above a certain level (or maybe it's just Tesla, I'm not 100% sure of all the details).

My questions are:

1) how badly will Musk seek those benefits?

If 'you' want to find and know the Truth, then I will, again, suggest asking 'the person', "them" 'self'.

So are you saying I should find out if Musk will cheat to earn his trillion dollars for his company by asking Musk himself?

If you are, really, still not yet sure if "elon musk" will what you call 'cheat', then asking 'others' instead of 'that one', "itself", will not necessarily provide you with 'the Truth'. But, if you also do not trust 'that one', "itself", to provide with 'the Truth', then there is no use asking it, either.

Or if not, can you clarify what is meant by "asking them self"? Or who do I need to ask in order to find out if Musk is going to cheat?

Obviously, if you want to find 'the Truth' of what 'one' will do, then you would ask 'that one', directly. The exact same principle applies to absolutely any and all writings. There is no real use asking any one, besides the author, of course, what was meant and/or intended by 'those words'.

However, if you do not want to find access to 'the one', "itself", to find clarity, then, again, relying on 'others' will only provide you with assumptions, or guesses. And, 'we' all know that absolutely any and every assumption, and guess, could be False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect, correct?

There is only one person who could provide you with 'the actual Truth' of what some will do, and, of course, that is 'the person', "them" 'self'.

Also, do not forget that even 'they' can not, always, guarantee what 'they' 'will do', for the obvious 'uncertainty of the future'.