Quote of the day

[promethean75]

"Schopenhauer, in his powerful and frightful volumes of metaphysics, is anxious to show us that Life is sad and that for this reason it isn’t worth the trouble of living it. But the art drawn from the most profound and lyrical human sorrow throbs to exalt the heroic Beauty that in the divinatory exaltation of symbol is transfigured by creative joy that shows us savage purity, that sheds light on the loving spirit, that teaches us to live Life madly. If politics, socialism, christianity, humanism, logic, coherence, right, duty, just and unjust, good and evil, truth and justice, are already boring, vacuous and slumbering things, phantoms that have grown dim and vanished in the anthropocentric sun of the unique negator; parodies of a dying civilization that inspires nausea, repugnance and contempt in us; Art teaches us the great love of Life. We have the need to love it “up to the annihilation of being.”

- Novatore, opening of In Memory of Bruno Filippi

Much as I love him Renzo always tries a little too hard to be a good poet. You just have to sit through him pacing back and forth moving his hands about thoughtfully when he enters into one of his monologuing poet modes. He'll get around to making his point eventually... just let him do his thing first.

[promethean75]

Look at this one. See what I mean? It's like okay dude that's great... now are we gonna rob this bank or what? We've only got like four minutes so wrap it up, B.

"The Hero of Life goes toward Death accompanied by the tragically triumphal march of dynamite and the head encircled with flowers. Yes, anyone who has desired and been able to live as Rebel and Hero wants the freedom to burn in a beautiful blaze ignited by the greatest sin so that the prelude to death is nothing but a sweet and melancholy poem kissing a red dawn where the voice of Orpheus blends with the sobs of Prometheus and the roaring, bacchic laughter of Dionysus resounds."

[iambiguous]

Suicide

“And this was perhaps the first time in my life that death occurred to me as a reality. I thought of the people before me who had looked down at the river and gone to sleep beneath it. I wondered about them. I wondered how they had done it—it, the physical act. I had thought of suicide when I was much younger, as, possibly, we all have, but then it would have been for revenge, it would have been my way of informing the world how awfully it had made me suffer. But the silence of the evening, as I wandered home, had nothing to do with that storm, that far off boy. I simply wondered about the dead because their days had ended and I did not know how I would get through mine.” James Baldwin

Ditto?

“I wanted so badly for there to be more. I ached for there to be more than my crappy little life.' He shakes his head. 'And there was more. I just couldn't see it.'" Patrick Ness

Tell me about it.

“We knew that Cecilia had killed herself because she was a misfit, because the beyond called to her, and we knew that her sisters, once abandoned, felt her calling from that place, too. ” Jeffrey Eugenides

So, who's calling you?

“God surely did not create us, and cause us to live, with the sole end of wishing always to die. I believe, in my heart, we were intended to prize life and enjoy it, so long as we retain it. Existence never was originally meant to be that useless, blank, pale, slow-trailing thing it often becomes to many, and is becoming to me, among the rest.” Charlotte Brontë

Unless, perhaps, God surely does not exist.

“It's better to burn out than to fade away.” Kurt Cobain

Define better?

“I’m going to kill myself. I should go to Paris and jump off the Eiffel Tower. I’ll be dead. you know, in fact, if I get the Concorde, I could be dead three hours earlier, which would be perfect. Or wait a minute. It -- with the time change, I could be alive for six hours in New York but dead three hours in Paris. I could get things done, and I could also be dead.” Woody Allen

Go figure?

[Jori]

1. Brain power is superior to brute strength. - Superman
2. Wise man needs little. - Tarzan
3. The more things change, the more they remain the same. - Santa Claus

[Phil8659]

1. Brain power is superior to brute strength. - Superman
2. Wise man needs little. - Tarzan
3. The more things change, the more they remain the same. - Santa Claus

Now that is a front to Religion, number 3, for it is derived from for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction, as Plato noted, the effect is the same as the cause, which is mathematical for equal processes rendered upon equal things produces equal results. A thing never changes, its relatives do, and that is why one always finds their relatives on the top ten most wanted lists.

I ordered myself the material for a project box. Mediasonic 8 bay jbod and 8 4tb Hitachi's to go in it. I only hope this satisfies my greed for personal space at least for a few years. No one can answer for, as the above list by the poster shows, that no one can satisfy another's illiteracy. Mental masturbation is because one is blind.
1. The intelligible is never perceptible, nor is the perceptible ever intelligible, Plato
2. ditto.
3. ditto.
We have two, and only two, concepts to master, and they do not make one any bater (sic)

[iambiguous]

Mitchell Heisman

There is a very popular opinion that choosing life is inherently superior to choosing death. This belief that life is inherently preferable to death is one of the most widespread superstitions. This bias constitutes one of the most obstinate mythologies of the human species.

Gods and religions some suspect.

Uncertain of uncertainty, skeptical of skepticism, it seems that the most important question is whether there is an important question.

Next up [or not]: whether there are important answers.

What does despair mean to someone who interprets that emotion as a chemical reaction in the brain?

See, I told you.

If there is no extant God and no extant gods, no good and no evil, no right and no wrong, no meaning and no purpose: if there are no values that are inherently valuable; no justice that is ultimately justifiable; no reasoning that is fundamentally rational, then there is no sane way to choose between science, religion, racism, philosophy, nationalism, art, conservatism, nihilism, liberalism, surrealism, fascism, asceticism, egalitarianism, subjectivism, elitism, ismism. If reason is incapable of deducing ultimate, non-arbitrary human ends, and nothing can be judged as ultimately more important than anything else, then freedom is equal to slavery; cruelty is equal to kindness; love is equal to hate; war is equal to peace; dignity is equal to contempt; destruction is equal to creation; life is equal to death and death is equal to life. Nihilism represents the ultimate logical conclusion of our great values and ideals- because we must experience nihilism before we can find out what value these "values" really had.

Pick 3:

1] new post
2] new thread
3] new forum

Now put them in the correct order.

I might be a nihilist except that I don’t believe in anything.

So, is that the same as or different from believing in nothing?

To be serious about an idea, one must push it to its most extreme consequence and conclusion. Are moderns serious about the idea that biology does not matter? Are moderns willing to push economic materialism to its logical conclusion?

You tell me.

[iambiguous]

Mitchell Heisman

“The land of opportunity", "The American dream", "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness": these are the sounds of the great sucking mechanism of the American parasite. The reliance of seduction and persuasion over coercion that sold democracy to the American people eventually sold it to the rest of the world. Although there are a minority of examples of the direct parasitism of involuntary immigration, especially slaves from Africa and the "legal" incorporation of Native Americans, voluntary immigration through the lure of freedom and equality is only a more indirect form of parasitic predation. What is voluntary can be no less predatory than coercion, just as capitalism can be no less predatory than military imperialism. From the point of view of competition among nations, the point is not whether a citizen or their ancestor originally arrived voluntarily or involuntarily, but whether a nation or ideology is successful in harnessing its human resources towards its national interest or way of life. American parasitism works because it offers the secular Judaism of liberalism rather than the secular Christianity of communism. Communism could never compete with the immigrant American hope that they themselves might one day be a filthy rich capitalist.”

He might as well just kill himself.

To expose the roots of liberal democracy in ethnic conflict is an act of destruction that is necessary to lay the foundations for a far greater construction. Creating God is the last and greatest goal that the human race is capable of. If and when there exists an artificial intelligence greater than all the greatest philosophers of human history combined, philosophy will quite likely be different because the philosopher will be different. The AI God philosopher is the overcoming of Nietzsche in the overcoming of the conflict between 'reason and revelation'.

Next up: eternal recurrence.

Americans do not apply egalitarianism to the organization of their individual minds. I have yet to see the American Project for freedom and equality applied by an individual to free the neurons of his or her brain from mindless obedience to his or her mind.

Let's run this by, well, you know.

While there is no way to definitively distinguish between the ancient and the modern, “culture” is more ancient and closer to biology, while “civilization” is more modern and closer to technology.

Of course, he's only paraphrasing, well, you know.

Valuing individual humans as ends in themselves thus opposes biological evolution on many levels. If humanity is collectively treated as end in itself, moreover, then all the rest of the world can be conceived as means at the disposal of humanity’s ends and purposes.

Let's explain this.

What really happens in the Western countries that adopt feminism and individualism is not the complete end of the human race, but rather, the relative demographic decline of the native populations of liberal democracies. The individual irrationality of the self-sacrificial parent to child relationship helps produce genetically suicidal birthrates.

Obviously.

[popeye1945]

Mitchell Heisman

There is a very popular opinion that choosing life is inherently superior to choosing death. This belief that life is inherently preferable to death is one of the most widespread superstitions. This bias constitutes one of the most obstinate mythologies of the human species.

Gods and religions some suspect.

Uncertain of uncertainty, skeptical of skepticism, it seems that the most important question is whether there is an important question.

Next up [or not]: whether there are important answers.

What does despair mean to someone who interprets that emotion as a chemical reaction in the brain?

See, I told you.

If there is no extant God and no extant gods, no good and no evil, no right and no wrong, no meaning and no purpose: if there are no values that are inherently valuable; no justice that is ultimately justifiable; no reasoning that is fundamentally rational, then there is no sane way to choose between science, religion, racism, philosophy, nationalism, art, conservatism, nihilism, liberalism, surrealism, fascism, asceticism, egalitarianism, subjectivism, elitism, ismism. If reason is incapable of deducing ultimate, non-arbitrary human ends, and nothing can be judged as ultimately more important than anything else, then freedom is equal to slavery; cruelty is equal to kindness; love is equal to hate; war is equal to peace; dignity is equal to contempt; destruction is equal to creation; life is equal to death and death is equal to life. Nihilism represents the ultimate logical conclusion of our great values and ideals- because we must experience nihilism before we can find out what value these "values" really had.

Pick 3:

1] new post
2] new thread
3] new forum

Now put them in the correct order.

I might be a nihilist except that I don’t believe in anything.

So, is that the same as or different from believing in nothing?

To be serious about an idea, one must push it to its most extreme consequence and conclusion. Are moderns serious about the idea that biology does not matter? Are moderns willing to push economic materialism to its logical conclusion? You tell me.

Biology is the measure and the meaning of all things. A common biology creates common meanings.

[Phil8659]

Biology is the measure and the meaning of all things. A common biology creates common meanings.

Now that is not actually true. Trees, bugs, etc., species have common biology, however, not one of them has even thought about meaning.

Meaning is derived from biology only at a certain point in evolution, when meaning provides motive for behavior, i.e., when a species develops a life support system which is aimed at being able to choose a response by comparing that response to another. I.e. that life support system which is responsible for choices. A or B. Or again, a linguistically capable life form.
A mind is such a life support system, When it is functional, it can make reliable judgments. As all information is processed in binary, yada, yada, yada, we end up with four systems of grammar, each one applying recursive parsing of information in one of four ways, These Grammar systems have historical names, Common Grammar, Arithmetic, Algebra and Geometry.
Three are logical, Common Grammar, Arithmetic and Algebra, but as Plato noted, names, in of themselves, have no meaning. We assign meaning according to some standard. Thus meaning comes from the perceptible thing named. But it is not that things meaning, it is how we mean to use it. We apply meaning to the perceptible thing named, it is not attributed to the name, but the named.

Geometry is an analogic. where things are reverse. People can look at figures and find no meaning to ascribe to them. This is because, they have no idea how to use them.
yada yada,

In short, an idiot goes looking for meaning, when meaning is proportional to one's intelligence which determines how we can use some particular thing.

We assert all meaning to what we perceive, and only when we have the wit to comprehend how we can use those things in order to survive. We make meaningful things, or we do not. Those who say life has no meaning, are absolutely right. Meaning is what we make of our life. Life, in of itself, is not a form of life.

[iambiguous]

Stupidity

“The power and intensity of that experience made me shake and tremble with fear. The reality and tangibility of God in that moment was so jarring that I threw the rest of the weed away and decided to just stick with the opiates. I knew that using drugs to get off drugs was stupid.”
Michael J Heil

Trust me: not always.

"She remembered a remark Mrs. Alsop had once made. Some people are willfully ignorant. They aren't stupid--they simply choose to be oblivious. That way they aren't responsible for anything that goes wrong.” Nancy Horan

Hear? Hear?

“The difference between a madman and a nincompoop is not all that great, except that madmen probably do less harm.” Gerald Morris

Just out of curiosity, which one are you.

“There is no place where greed has walked where it did not leave regret in its wake.” Craig D. Lounsbrough

Tell that to those who own and operate the deep state.

“Sometimes anger and arrogance cloud clear judgment. You hastily sever ties with people only to learn the hard way, you need them more than you care to admit.” Carlos Wallace

Starting with me, let's name names.

“The less a person knows, the more certain he is that he is right, and ... no weapons yet invented are of any use in a struggle with stupidity.” Elizabeth von Arnim

And we've tried them all, haven't we?

[popeye1945]

Biology is the measure and the meaning of all things. A common biology creates common meanings.

Now that is not actually true. Trees, bugs, etc., species have common biology, however, not one of them has even thought about meaning.

I suppose you think animals in general do not assign a significant value or meaning to their food prey. If you're waiting for them to write on the topic, it will be a long wait.


Meaning is derived from biology only at a certain point in evolution, when meaning provides motive for behavior, i.e., when a species develops a life support system which is aimed at being able to choose a response by comparing that response to another. I.e. that life support system which is responsible for choices. A or B. Or again, a linguistically capable life form. [/quote]

Meaning is born of biological experience and the understanding of that experience, where the end product is meaning. Without the ability to experience and understand that experience, nothing would have survived. I do believe that feelings are more primordial than thought; however, I believe even feelings would deliver a certain understanding, and that understanding would be a full-blown meaning, ouch, that hurts, avoid.


A mind is such a life support system, When it is functional, it can make reliable judgments. As all information is processed in binary, yada, yada, yada, we end up with four systems of grammar, each one applying recursive parsing of information in one of four ways, These Grammar systems have historical names, Common Grammar, Arithmetic, Algebra and Geometry.
Three are logical, Common Grammar, Arithmetic and Algebra, but as Plato noted, names, in of themselves, have no meaning. We assign meaning according to some standard. Thus meaning comes from the perceptible thing named. But it is not that things meaning, it is how we mean to use it. We apply meaning to the perceptible thing named, it is not attributed to the name, but the named.
Geometry is an analogic. where things are reverse. People can look at figures and find no meaning to ascribe to them. This is because, they have no idea how to use them. yada yada. [/quote]

The above is so much gibberish.

In short, an idiot goes looking for meaning when meaning is proportional to one's intelligence, which determines how we can use some particular thing. [/quote]

One does not go looking for meaning. Biology is the processer of experience, understanding, and thus meaning. Again, biology is the measure and meaning of all things. Biology/life is the only source of meaning in the world. Meaning is relative to the biology experiencing it; change the biology and one changes the experience, the understanding, and thus the meaning.

We assert all meaning to what we perceive, and only when we have the wit to comprehend how we can use those things in order to survive. We make meaningful things, or we do not. Those who say life has no meaning are absolutely right. Meaning is what we make of our life. Life, in of itself, is not a form of life. [/quote]

One's body is one's interface with the world, and the mind's first idea is of the body, the body experiences, and the mind understands that experience, and so its understanding is the meaning for the whole organism. One does not experience ultimate reality; what one does experience is how ultimate reality alters one's biology. So, what you experience is your altered biology, which is why your everyday life experience is called apparent reality, and not ultimate reality. " Life, in and of itself, is not a form of life." This is nonsense.

[Phil8659]

From your first to last statement, your reading comprehension is typically low. In your first statement, explain to me, or anyone else, how you derive that a tree is an animal.

In your last, it shows you have never read Plato, or pondered the fact that we have two, and only two parts of speech. Let me use an exact sample from Plato, is "red color or is it a color? " In short, is not "life" a relative, and "a life" a correlative, i.e. explain to everyone that stating a verb is not a noun" is so much gibberish.

There are two, and only two parts of speech, ask the computer. And when you cannot distinguish one from the other, you cannot think any better than a vegetable, as Aristotle noted. You really need to work on comprehension.

[popeye1945]

From your first to last statement, your reading comprehension is typically low. In your first statement, explain to me, or anyone else, how you derive that a tree is an animal.

In your last, it shows you have never read Plato, or pondered the fact that we have two, and only two parts of speech. Let me use an exact sample from Plato, is "red color or is it a color? " In short, is not "life" a relative, and "a life" a correlative, i.e. explain to everyone that stating a verb is not a noun" is so much gibberish.

There are two, and only two parts of speech, ask the computer. And when you cannot distinguish one from the other, you cannot think any better than a vegetable, as Aristotle noted. You really need to work on comprehension.

PLEASE GET OUT MORE!

[Phil8659]

From your first to last statement, your reading comprehension is typically low. In your first statement, explain to me, or anyone else, how you derive that a tree is an animal.

In your last, it shows you have never read Plato, or pondered the fact that we have two, and only two parts of speech. Let me use an exact sample from Plato, is "red color or is it a color? " In short, is not "life" a relative, and "a life" a correlative, i.e. explain to everyone that stating a verb is not a noun" is so much gibberish.

There are two, and only two parts of speech, ask the computer. And when you cannot distinguish one from the other, you cannot think any better than a vegetable, as Aristotle noted. You really need to work on comprehension.

PLEASE GET OUT MORE!

How old are you? Are you so old that you are in a state of childhood regression, or simply a spoilt snot who does not care to learn from a master grammarian like say, Plato?

[popeye1945]

From your first to last statement, your reading comprehension is typically low. In your first statement, explain to me, or anyone else, how you derive that a tree is an animal.

In your last, it shows you have never read Plato, or pondered the fact that we have two, and only two parts of speech. Let me use an exact sample from Plato, is "red color or is it a color? " In short, is not "life" a relative, and "a life" a correlative, i.e. explain to everyone that stating a verb is not a noun" is so much gibberish.

There are two, and only two parts of speech, ask the computer. And when you cannot distinguish one from the other, you cannot think any better than a vegetable, as Aristotle noted. You really need to work on comprehension.

PLEASE GET OUT MORE!

How old are you? Are you so old that you are in a state of childhood regression, or simply a spoilt snot who does not care to learn from a master grammarian like say, Plato?

I am not a conciler, but stop playing with your own feces. Go for a walk, try to make new friends. You will feel much better, trust me!