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By definition, the least evolved cannot comprehend the intelligible, and this may even be considered a congenital defect, such as Age.
I bet no one can teach Age, that without the intelligible, i.e. mind, then there is no perceptible, but he wont get it.
Being a sociopath, if you ask him to argue with a dictionary, he will not, for he cannot.
He is almost as preliterate as can be, for he cannot participate in the basic naming conventions of his species.
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Maia wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 8:48 am

The justification for why the UK has turned into such a shithole is because we had an empire, and deserve it.
That is very sociopathic of you. How does any individual, in a geographical location, deserve anything they had absolutely nothing to do with? When one imagines that they have a right to rule, they are suffering from a mental condition called delusions of grandeur.
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Phil8659 wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:16 am
Maia wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 8:48 am

The justification for why the UK has turned into such a shithole is because we had an empire, and deserve it.
That is very sociopathic of you. How does any individual, in a geographical location, deserve anything they had absolutely nothing to do with? When one imagines that they have a right to rule, they are suffering from a mental condition called delusions of grandeur.
I'm not suggesting that the justification is valid. That's just how the leftists try and justify it. Indeed, it can only possibly be valid if they accept the concept of racial guilt.
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Maia wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:23 am
I'm not suggesting that the justification is valid. That's just how the leftists try and justify it. Indeed, it can only possibly be valid if they accept the concept of racial guilt.
Really? how about the phrase "racial guilt" Does guilt differ from guilt, in accordance not with its geographical location, but the memories, which often do not even reside in an individual?
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Are we defined by gender? Skin color, geographical location, height, weight, political topics?

When you speak of things, not in accordance with the definition of that thing, are you literate, or speaking gibberish?

Your body is awake, but you as mind, are sound asleep.
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Age wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:05 am

The 'goal of Life' is to just live, and be alive. Which is just Existence existing, eternally, HERE, and, NOW.

And, the Truth is there is no actual 'death'. There is only the, eternal, One, which is just continually changing in shape, and in form. As can be proved by the witnessing of 'matter', itself, just always changing in shape, and in form.
In theory yes, but in reality no, reality doesn’t demand a theory. Theory is unique to human mentation, it’s an artificial construction, in fact every concept known is a knowledge made out of literally nothing, only appearing to be something as believed. Knowledge is an artificial intelligence. Only death is real, everything is dying to live, and living to die. Death is the ultimate understanding that there’s absolutely nothing to understand. To a human being, only death follows you around, not life. For all living things that KNOW they live, only death awaits them, not life. Only the unknowing can say there’s no such thing as death. Humans cannot be the unknowing because the human mind functions to know things.

For the human mind that wants to know…There’s no living without dying. If there’s no dying, then there’s no living.
No thing knows it’s dead or alive. Knowing is a false secondary reality upon the unknowable, when there’s attachment to thoughts, thoughts being things that are not actually anything at all, except illusions or mirages.
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Maia wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:23 am
Phil8659 wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:16 am
Maia wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 8:48 am

The justification for why the UK has turned into such a shithole is because we had an empire, and deserve it.
That is very sociopathic of you. How does any individual, in a geographical location, deserve anything they had absolutely nothing to do with? When one imagines that they have a right to rule, they are suffering from a mental condition called delusions of grandeur.
I'm not suggesting that the justification is valid. That's just how the leftists try and justify it. Indeed, it can only possibly be valid if they accept the concept of racial guilt.
During evolution, when a mind cannot do the job it is evolving to do, it is in a state called subjective identification. It cannot process information correctly so it lives in a dream world, imagining that it is working, when it provably is not.
Your statements are composed of strings of mythology.

But you have an advantage, you are blind. Extrapolate that. What would you be if you lost every sense?

You would be in a state of total isolation, a state which few have ever achieved. It is truly the state of meditation free from the distractions of perception. Plato described it perfectly. If one were suddenly put there, they would be in terror. Meditation is the ability to enter a state normally terrifying to an individual, so that one can process information free from distraction, free from being pulled into a state which is delusional.

When one is taught in the Lucid Deamstate, one is given lessons in that state, until they can learn to be present in the moment, without fear.
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Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am
Age wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:05 am

The 'goal of Life' is to just live, and be alive. Which is just Existence existing, eternally, HERE, and, NOW.

And, the Truth is there is no actual 'death'. There is only the, eternal, One, which is just continually changing in shape, and in form. As can be proved by the witnessing of 'matter', itself, just always changing in shape, and in form.
In theory yes, but in reality no, reality doesn’t demand a theory.
What are you saying, 'no', to, exactly?
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am Theory is unique to human mentation, it’s an artificial construction, in fact every concept known is a knowledge made out of literally nothing, only appearing to be something as believed.
What do you mean by, 'made out of literally nothing'?

Does not knowledge come out of 'things', and not out of 'no thing'?
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am Knowledge is an artificial intelligence. Only death is real, everything is dying to live, and living to die. Death is the ultimate understanding that there’s absolutely nothing to understand.
But 'what', supposedly, 'dies', exactly?

Obviously the one and only, eternal, One could not 'die'
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am To a human being, only death follows you around, not life.
The human 'body' is made out of 'matter', and matter only changes in shape and/or form. Matter can not, and does not, 'die'.

And, the human 'being' is invisible, so 'what', and 'how' could 'it', actually 'die', exactly?
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am For all living things that KNOW they live, only death awaits them, not life.
What do 'you' mean by 'death', exactly?
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am Only the unknowing can say there’s no such thing as death. Humans cannot be the unknowing because the human mind functions to know things.
But, there is no such thing as a 'human mind'.
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am For the human mind that wants to know…There’s no living without dying. If there’s no dying, then there’s no living.
you seem to have completely missed and/or misunderstood what I mean by 'death', 'dying', and/or 'die'. But, then again, you never considered seeking out any understanding nor clarification at all, here, and just said that 'I' was 'wrong'.
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am No thing knows it’s dead or alive.
Only three sentences prior you said and wrote, '... living things that KNOW they live, ...'. But now you say and claim that 'no thing' knows it is alive'.
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am Knowing is a false secondary reality upon the unknowable, when there’s attachment to thoughts, thoughts being things that are not actually anything at all, except illusions or mirages.
Are the 'thoughts', which 'you' are relaying, here, also illusions or mirages?
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Age wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:23 am

Are the 'thoughts', which 'you' are relaying, here, also illusions or mirages?
define each term in your sentence "EXACTLY."
otherwise, you will fill the whole world up with the smoke out of your ass.

the second part of the game will be everyone will pick a word out of your reply, at random, and swear it is not so.

You are like the joke kids play when they fill a bag with shit and set it on fire on someone's porch hoping someone will come out and stomp it out.

And God spoke to Moses out of the Burning Bush, While Age spoke as a bag of burning shit.
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Phil8659 wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:32 am
Age wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:23 am

Are the 'thoughts', which 'you' are relaying, here, also illusions or mirages?
define each term in your sentence "EXACTLY."
Why are you demanding, from others, the very thing that you, "yourself", do not do?
Phil8659 wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:32 am otherwise, you will fill the whole world up with the smoke out of your ass.
Obviously 'this' is completely nonsensical.
Phil8659 wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:32 am the second part of the game will be everyone will pick a word out of your reply, at random, and swear it is not so.

You are like the joke kids play when they fill a bag with shit and set it on fire on someone's porch hoping someone will come out and stomp it out.

And God spoke to Moses out of the Burning Bush, While Age spoke as a bag of burning shit.
All 'I' essentially did, here, was just ask a question, for clarification.

What is 'it', exactly, that you 'see' or believe I did, here?
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Age wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:23 am
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am
Age wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:05 am

The 'goal of Life' is to just live, and be alive. Which is just Existence existing, eternally, HERE, and, NOW.

And, the Truth is there is no actual 'death'. There is only the, eternal, One, which is just continually changing in shape, and in form. As can be proved by the witnessing of 'matter', itself, just always changing in shape, and in form.
In theory yes, but in reality no, reality doesn’t demand a theory.
What are you saying, 'no', to, exactly?
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am Theory is unique to human mentation, it’s an artificial construction, in fact every concept known is a knowledge made out of literally nothing, only appearing to be something as believed.
What do you mean by, 'made out of literally nothing'?

Does not knowledge come out of 'things', and not out of 'no thing'?
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am Knowledge is an artificial intelligence. Only death is real, everything is dying to live, and living to die. Death is the ultimate understanding that there’s absolutely nothing to understand.
But 'what', supposedly, 'dies', exactly?

Obviously the one and only, eternal, One could not 'die'
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am To a human being, only death follows you around, not life.
The human 'body' is made out of 'matter', and matter only changes in shape and/or form. Matter can not, and does not, 'die'.

And, the human 'being' is invisible, so 'what', and 'how' could 'it', actually 'die', exactly?
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am For all living things that KNOW they live, only death awaits them, not life.
What do 'you' mean by 'death', exactly?
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am Only the unknowing can say there’s no such thing as death. Humans cannot be the unknowing because the human mind functions to know things.
But, there is no such thing as a 'human mind'.
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am For the human mind that wants to know…There’s no living without dying. If there’s no dying, then there’s no living.
you seem to have completely missed and/or misunderstood what I mean by 'death', 'dying', and/or 'die'. But, then again, you never considered seeking out any understanding nor clarification at all, here, and just said that 'I' was 'wrong'.
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am No thing knows it’s dead or alive.
Only three sentences prior you said and wrote, '... living things that KNOW they live, ...'. But now you say and claim that 'no thing' knows it is alive'.
Fairy wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:50 am Knowing is a false secondary reality upon the unknowable, when there’s attachment to thoughts, thoughts being things that are not actually anything at all, except illusions or mirages.
Are the 'thoughts', which 'you' are relaying, here, also illusions or mirages?
I’m moving this entire conversation to the “QUESTIONS TO AGE” thread.
So as not to derail this train incident thread.

I’ll later address your responses, be back soon, Age.
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Age is quite accomplished, I believe he is the only person who can sing the "Duh" chorus acapella.

Most kids learn to use a dictionary early in life, but in a vacuum a bell makes no sound.
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Phil8659 wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:06 am
Maia wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:23 am
Phil8659 wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:16 am

That is very sociopathic of you. How does any individual, in a geographical location, deserve anything they had absolutely nothing to do with? When one imagines that they have a right to rule, they are suffering from a mental condition called delusions of grandeur.
I'm not suggesting that the justification is valid. That's just how the leftists try and justify it. Indeed, it can only possibly be valid if they accept the concept of racial guilt.
During evolution, when a mind cannot do the job it is evolving to do, it is in a state called subjective identification. It cannot process information correctly so it lives in a dream world, imagining that it is working, when it provably is not.
Your statements are composed of strings of mythology.

But you have an advantage, you are blind. Extrapolate that. What would you be if you lost every sense?

You would be in a state of total isolation, a state which few have ever achieved. It is truly the state of meditation free from the distractions of perception. Plato described it perfectly. If one were suddenly put there, they would be in terror. Meditation is the ability to enter a state normally terrifying to an individual, so that one can process information free from distraction, free from being pulled into a state which is delusional.

When one is taught in the Lucid Deamstate, one is given lessons in that state, until they can learn to be present in the moment, without fear.
I don't know. I don't experience blindness as a loss of anything, and can't imagine what it would be like to have no other senses. Nor would I want to.
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Maia wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:23 am
Phil8659 wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:16 am
Maia wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 8:48 am

The justification for why the UK has turned into such a shithole is because we had an empire, and deserve it.
That is very sociopathic of you. How does any individual, in a geographical location, deserve anything they had absolutely nothing to do with? When one imagines that they have a right to rule, they are suffering from a mental condition called delusions of grandeur.
I'm not suggesting that the justification is valid. That's just how the leftists try and justify it. Indeed, it can only possibly be valid if they accept the concept of racial guilt.
Maia, you wrote " justification" with the definite article which strongly suggests that it's not only valid but the only justification.

Racial guilt, national guilt, and legal guilt, is best dealt with by reparations to the victims of exploitation. Racial guilt, national guilt , and legal guilt should be addressed but not with the simplistic and impetuous Right wing bias that you display.
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Belinda wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 12:34 pm
Maia wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:23 am
Phil8659 wrote: Mon Nov 03, 2025 9:16 am

That is very sociopathic of you. How does any individual, in a geographical location, deserve anything they had absolutely nothing to do with? When one imagines that they have a right to rule, they are suffering from a mental condition called delusions of grandeur.
I'm not suggesting that the justification is valid. That's just how the leftists try and justify it. Indeed, it can only possibly be valid if they accept the concept of racial guilt.
Maia, you wrote " justification" with the definite article which strongly suggests that it's not only valid but the only justification.

Racial guilt, national guilt, and legal guilt, is best dealt with by reparations to the victims of exploitation. Racial guilt, national guilt , and legal guilt should be addressed but not with the simplistic and impetuous Right wing bias that you display.
I also said I'd think about carrying a brick around with me, but I was being ironic then, too.

There are no victims of any exploitation that the British Empire *might* have carried out left alive anywhere in the world today. There are, however, many hundreds of millions of people benefitting from the infrastructure the British Empire left behind in places like Africa and India, even if they haven't updated it much. And that's not to mention the fact that the whole world speaks English, now.
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