New Discovery

[peacegirl]

I read your first three chapters and I raised questions and you had nothing. We're not bothering to do that again.

I will help you keep your desperate little thread going because it will piss off some other charlatans though.

What questions did you raise? You just kept telling me that his proof of 'no free will' is nothing more than a tautology.

Not interested in spending actual time with your theory any more. You can talk to age for a while.

Whatever is good for you. Thanks for stopping by.

[Age]

Peacegirl: You want me to admit it's not a discovery. You said this may have been a so-called discovery to my father, but not necessarily to others. Discoveries don't work like that. If a discovery is true, it's true for everyone, regardless of who agrees with it or not.

you, once again, have missed the point.

What one may consider to be 'a discovery', to them, may well have already be known, to another.

So, 'a discovery' may well be 'true', but only in regards 'to some', and not necessarily in regards 'to all'.

One day you might come to realise, and/or discover, this True Fact.

It doesn't matter to me if this discovery was known to some and not necessarily in regards to all.

Who cares if it matters to you or not?

It is just another Fact that you could never refute.

More importantly, this discovery remains in obscurity, so it cannot be applied on a global scale if hardly anyone knows about it, and scientists haven't confirmed that it is, in fact, genuine.

Look, "peacegirl" if you actually believed in "your" daddy's writings enough, and believed that they will create 'the world' proposed, then you would, obviously, provide 'those writings' for free to absolutely every one. For surely you would become 'richer' than having all of the money in the world to "yourself" would make you, if only 'those writings' could achieve what you hoped for, here.

Trying to make money off of what is essentially not even your own words goes to show and prove just how Truly selfish and greedy adult human beings had become, in the days when this is being written, and worse still, is 'this one' is trying to make money off of what is claimed to be what would decline all of the evil in the world.

As some might ask, 'How do you sleep at night "peacegirl"?

[Age]

Peacegirl: You want me to admit it's not a discovery. You said this may have been a so-called discovery to my father, but not necessarily to others. Discoveries don't work like that. If a discovery is true, it's true for everyone, regardless of who agrees with it or not.

you, once again, have missed the point.

What one may consider to be 'a discovery', to them, may well have already be known, to another.

So, 'a discovery' may well be 'true', but only in regards 'to some', and not necessarily in regards 'to all'.

One day you might come to realise, and/or discover, this True Fact.

Let me clarify again that in order for a discovery to be beneficial to humankind, it has to be understood by scientists who can then announce to the world that this knowledge is, in fact, genuine, where preparations can be made to transition to this new world. Unfortunately, this discovery remains in obscurity, so it cannot be applied on a global scale to create this paradigm shift from war and crime to one of peace and security for all.

A lot of war and crime is due to the fact that you adult human beings harbour a 'love of money'. Which you clearly have, and are obviously showing and proving, here.

Just maybe 'that book' is actually helping in the creating of a Truly peaceful world for absolutely every one, as One, but just not in 'the way' that you had previously imagined and envisioned.

[peacegirl]

you, once again, have missed the point.

What one may consider to be 'a discovery', to them, may well have already be known, to another.

So, 'a discovery' may well be 'true', but only in regards 'to some', and not necessarily in regards 'to all'.

One day you might come to realise, and/or discover, this True Fact.

It doesn't matter to me if this discovery was known to some and not necessarily in regards to all.

Who cares if it matters to you or not?

It is just another Fact that you could never refute.

It isn't even about whether this knowledge was known or not. It's about NOW. No one has brought this discovery to light, which is all that matters Age.

More importantly, this discovery remains in obscurity, so it cannot be applied on a global scale if hardly anyone knows about it, and scientists haven't confirmed that it is, in fact, genuine.

Look, "peacegirl" if you actually believed in "your" daddy's writings enough, and believed that they will create 'the world' proposed, then you would, obviously, provide 'those writings' for free to absolutely every one. For surely you would become 'richer' than having all of the money in the world to "yourself" would make you, if only 'those writings' could achieve what you hoped for, here.

Actually, any money made would be used for promoting the book. My hands are tied right now. That's why I'm hoping ChatGpt will open doors for me. Even then, it will cost money for an upgrade.

Trying to make money off of what is essentially not even your own words goes to show and prove just how Truly selfish and greedy adult human beings had become, in the days when this is being written, and worse still, is 'this one' is trying to make money off of what is claimed to be what would decline all of the evil in the world.

Once again, I want to promote this book. It takes money, Age. I have put lots of time, effort, and money into this endeavor because I know how important it is. Of course, it would be nice if I didn't have to worry about paying for groceries or paying the rent, like so many, but the goal was never about money. Your suspicion is unwarranted.

As some might ask, 'How do you sleep at night "peacegirl"?

I charged $1 for a 600-page book, and no one gave a damn. To say that after 20 years of hard work compiling his 6 books, and spending a lot of money with formatters and other expenses, I shouldn't make a cent? Why are you creating a different standard for me just because I have knowledge that will change the world? FYI, making a book free (Amazon won't even allow free books unless you're doing one of their promotions) would cheapen the book. That's how the human mind works. The more expensive something is, the more valuable it becomes in the eyes of the buyer. And yes, I sleep fine at night because my conscience is clear.

[Age]

It doesn't matter to me if this discovery was known to some and not necessarily in regards to all.

Who cares if it matters to you or not?

It is just another Fact that you could never refute.

It isn't even about whether this knowledge was known or not. It's about NOW. No one has brought this discovery to light, which is all that matters Age.

1. I am pretty sure you could find other things that matter.

2. As I have already pointed out 'this discovery' was already known, by others, therefore it has already been brought to light. As "flashdangerpants" has already enlightened you 'this discovery' is not some thing that is really that important nor that really matters. But, as always, you are absolutely free to look at and see things in absolutely any way that you would like to.

More importantly, this discovery remains in obscurity, so it cannot be applied on a global scale if hardly anyone knows about it, and scientists haven't confirmed that it is, in fact, genuine.

Look, "peacegirl" if you actually believed in "your" daddy's writings enough, and believed that they will create 'the world' proposed, then you would, obviously, provide 'those writings' for free to absolutely every one. For surely you would become 'richer' than having all of the money in the world to "yourself" would make you, if only 'those writings' could achieve what you hoped for, here.

Actually, any money made would be used for promoting the book.

Look, once again, if the book was as good and as informative as you would like to believe it is, then it would have already 'taken off', as they say. That the book appears to be of no real interest to people, in the days when this is being written, should tell you some thing.

My hands are tied right now.

Then how are you writing what you did. And, why do you not get some one to untie your hands?

That's why I'm hoping ChatGpt will open doors for me. Even then, it will cost money for an upgrade.

Have you considered instead of telling 'us', here, in a forum of a relatively no amount of no ones, you actually just went and did what you tell 'us' you are 'hoping for'?

Trying to make money off of what is essentially not even your own words goes to show and prove just how Truly selfish and greedy adult human beings had become, in the days when this is being written, and worse still, is 'this one' is trying to make money off of what is claimed to be what would decline all of the evil in the world.

Once again, I want to promote this book. It takes money, Age.

If the book was good and useful, then it does not need promoting. It would promote itself, if it, really, was worthy.

I have put lots of time, effort, and money into this endeavor because I know how important it is. Of course, it would be nice if I didn't have to worry about paying for groceries or paying the rent, like so many, but the goal was never about money. Your suspicion is unwarranted.

If the goal was, really, never about money, then do not sell the book and just give it away.

LOL will not give it away to just a relatively nothing number of people, here, in this forum. you, still, want to make money off of these 'hand full of people'.

As some might ask, 'How do you sleep at night "peacegirl"?

I charged $1 for a 600-page book, and no one gave a damn.

If you got just $1 from five million people, then this may well be far more money then you would have got from working your whole life.

If you really want people to 'give a damn', as you put it, then just give them 'those writings', which are not even yours. Some can imagine and would say, ' "your" daddy is rolling in its grave right now '.

To say that after 20 years of hard work compiling his 6 books, and spending a lot of money with formatters and other expenses, I shouldn't make a cent?

Why did you put a question mark at the end of your statement, here?

Why are you creating a different standard for me just because I have knowledge that will change the world?

But 'I' am not creating a different standard, for 'you'.

If absolutely any one who has absolutely any knowledge, which they believe is for the betterment of 'the world', then holding 'that knowledge' back, and demanding money in exchange for 'that knowledge' is Wrong in any one's standard, to me.

FYI, making a book free (Amazon won't even allow free books unless you're doing one of their promotions) would cheapen the book.

you can 'try to' justify or reason absolutely any thing, and you will justify and reason some things to "yourself". But, only what is 'just' and 'reasonable' to every one can be justified and reasoned.

If you believe, for example, just presenting the whole book, here, in this forum, for free, to the Truly insignificant amount of people, here, would so-call 'cheapen the book', then just maybe you have 'cheapened' you, or the book, so much, "yourself".

That's how the human mind works.

But, there is no such thing as the 'human mind'.

Are you not yet aware of 'this discovery'?

If no, then if you give me some money, then I will provide you with 'the writings' about 'this discovery'.

But, if you do not, then 'this discovery', which helps in creating the 'golden world' will remain in obscurity.

The more expensive something is, the more valuable it becomes in the eyes of the buyer.

And, here, is another prime example of just how much 'these people', back when this was being written, had been manipulated, fooled, tricked, and deceived by the devil, and evil, itself.

Imagine having being so indoctrinated to believe that only when you hand over 'more money', to others, some thing becomes so-called 'valuable'.

And yes, I sleep fine at night because my conscience is clear.

So to do the so-called world "leaders" who start wars and kill absolutely innocent human beings most likely say and claim the 'same thing', but to "themselves" only, as well.

Claiming, 'my conscience is clear', can be aligned with the "dunning-kruger" effect.

That is, the more you claim you know, are clear, the further away you are from the actual Truth.

[peacegirl]

Who cares if it matters to you or not?

It is just another Fact that you could never refute.

PEACEGIRL: It isn't even about whether this knowledge was known or not. It's about NOW. No one has brought this discovery to light, which is all that matters Age.

1. I am pretty sure you could find other things that matter.

PEACEGIRL: Um, I think this is pretty important.

2. As I have already pointed out 'this discovery' was already known, by others, therefore it has already been brought to light.

PEACEGIRL: It has not been brought to light.

AGE: As "flashdangerpants" has already enlightened you 'this discovery' is not some thing that is really that important nor that really matters. But, as always, you are absolutely free to look at and see things in absolutely any way that you would like to.

PEACEGIRL: And so are you. I'm not here to persuade you that this is a real discovery. It's exhausting.

Actually, any money made would be used for promoting the book.

AGE: Look, once again, if the book was as good and as informative as you would like to believe it is, then it would have already 'taken off', as they say. That the book appears to be of no real interest to people, in the days when this is being written, should tell you some thing.

PEACEGIRL: He never had a chance to market the book other than his meager effort to advertise in the N.Y. Times, which cost him a fortune. He got some interest in a few less expensive ads, but it was not his time. He had to use a Vanity Press. The publishing giants at the time would have known that this work was not going to appeal to the masses.

My hands are tied right now.

AGE: Then how are you writing what you did. And, why do you not get some one to untie your hands?

PEACEGIRL: I'm doing the best I can with the resources I have.

That's why I'm hoping ChatGpt will open doors for me. Even then, it will cost money for an upgrade.

AGE: Have you considered instead of telling 'us', here, in a forum of a relatively no amount of no ones, you actually just went and did what you tell 'us' you are 'hoping for'?

AGE: I'm doing both. Since I've been here a while, I wanted to share how I'm progressing, which is why I posted the Press Release.

Once again, I want to promote this book. It takes money, Age.

AGE: If the book was good and useful, then it does not need promoting. It would promote itself, if it, really, was worthy.

PEACEGIRL: That's what I'm hoping with the help of AI. People have to know about it before it can promote itself.

I have put lots of time, effort, and money into this endeavor because I know how important it is. Of course, it would be nice if I didn't have to worry about paying for groceries or paying the rent, like so many, but the goal was never about money. Your suspicion is unwarranted.

AGE: If the goal was, really, never about money, then do not sell the book and just give it away.

LOL will not give it away to just a relatively nothing number of people, here, in this forum. you, still, want to make money off of these 'hand full of people'.

PEACEGIRL: I never said it was never about making money. I said it's not the primary reason. Yes, I'd like to be compensated for the work I put into this, or at least break even.

I charged $1 for a 600-page book, and no one gave a damn.

AGE: If you got just $1 from five million people, then this may well be far more money then you would have got from working your whole life.

PEACEGIRL: Do you know how incredible that would be, not for me, but for everyone? You seem fixated on money, as if money would destroy my credibility. Nope.
Age: If you really want people to 'give a damn', as you put it, then just give them 'those writings', which are not even yours. Some can imagine and would say, ' "your" daddy is rolling in its grave right now '.

PEACEGIRL: My father would be tickled pink that I helped to keep his life's work alive. I am not begging anyone to read the book. And I'm not going to stoop that low to prove that this book is worth reading. Even if people are skeptical and unsure whether the knowledge is sound, they will still gain something from it. I can guarantee you that.

To say that after 20 years of hard work compiling his 6 books, and spending a lot of money with formatters and other expenses, I shouldn't make a cent?

AGE: Why did you put a question mark at the end of your statement, here?

PEACEGIRL: I was asking you why it would bother you if I made even a penny. That was a question which requires a question mark.

Why are you creating a different standard for me just because I have knowledge that will change the world?

AGE: But 'I' am not creating a different standard, for 'you'.

PEACEGIRL: Yes you are. You are harping on this. Do you have a grudge against everyone who makes money from their product or service?

AGE: If absolutely any one who has absolutely any knowledge, which they believe is for the betterment of 'the world', then holding 'that knowledge' back, and demanding money in exchange for 'that knowledge' is Wrong in any one's standard, to me.

FYI, making a book free (Amazon won't even allow free books unless you're doing one of their promotions) would cheapen the book.

AGE: you can 'try to' justify or reason absolutely any thing, and you will justify and reason some things to "yourself". But, only what is 'just' and 'reasonable' to every one can be justified and reasoned.

PEACEGIRL: It's interesting that you brought this up because the entire book is about how, under the changed conditions, we will be unable to justify hurting others or coming up with excuses that allow one to justify an action that is a hurt. You may think I should work and not get paid, I don't, and I don't think I have to justify it either, just because the work is important. You think that if I don't give the book away, it means I'm out fo money. To repeat what you said: if I made money selling the book at $1, it would take . You're wrong. I use Amazon. I could not give the book away, even if I wanted to, and I'm not leaving Amazon.

AGE: If you believe, for example, just presenting the whole book, here, in this forum, for free, to the Truly insignificant amount of people, here, would so-call 'cheapen the book', then just maybe you have 'cheapened' you, or the book, so much, "yourself".

PEACEGIRL: No, that's in competition with Amazon, and I can't do that.

That's how the human mind works.

AGE: But, there is no such thing as the 'human mind'.

Are you not yet aware of 'this discovery'?

If no, then if you give me some money, then I will provide you with 'the writings' about 'this discovery'.

But, if you do not, then 'this discovery', which helps in creating the 'golden world' will remain in obscurity.

PEACEGIRL: I can't help that this is how you interpret my motives. And think about this. If 5 million people bought the book for $1, imagine what it will do for the world if 5 million people bought the book. All you are thinking about is that I would make a lot of money. I would deserve it and use it to continue my plan on promoting my other book, which also came from this knowledge.

The more expensive something is, the more valuable it becomes in the eyes of the buyer.

AGE: And, here, is another prime example of just how much 'these people', back when this was being written, had been manipulated, fooled, tricked, and deceived by the devil, and evil, itself.

PEACEGIRL: People in every age have been manipulated, fooled, tricked, and deceived, and still are.

AGE: Imagine having being so indoctrinated to believe that only when you hand over 'more money', to others, some thing becomes so-called 'valuable'.

PEACEGIRL: That is how it is. I didn't make it up.

Marketing placebo effect (AI)

The Psychology Behind Why We Prefer Expensive Things
The tendency to value expensive items over cheaper ones is often attributed to the marketing placebo effect. This effect suggests that the perception of quality and value is influenced by the price of a product. Research indicates that consumers are more likely to enjoy and prefer pricier products, as they associate higher prices with better quality and satisfaction. This preference can be seen in various contexts, such as wine tasting, where participants tend to rate more expensive wines as tasting better than their cheaper counterparts. The brain activity associated with reward and motivation also shows increased activity with higher prices, further reinforcing the idea that cost is a significant factor in our perception of value.
Study Finds

Additionally, the scarcity effect plays a role in how we value items. When something is perceived as rare or limited in availability, its desirability increases, even if nothing else about it has changed. This principle applies not only to physical goods but also to time, opportunities, and even relationships, as exclusive clubs or elite memberships use scarcity to create demand.
SciTechDaily

The scarcity principle is rooted in psychology and economics, suggesting that people place higher value on objects, experiences, or opportunities that are scarce or limited in availability. This principle can manipulate our perception of value in subtle ways, often pushing us to act faster or make decisions we might not otherwise consider.
SciTechDaily

In summary, the combination of the marketing placebo effect, the scarcity effect, and the scarcity principle all contribute to the psychological phenomenon where people feel that the more costly something is, the more valuable it must be. This behavior can lead to irrational decision-making and influence our purchasing habits significantly.

And yes, I sleep fine at night because my conscience is clear.

AGE: So to do the so-called world "leaders" who start wars and kill absolutely innocent human beings most likely say and claim the 'same thing', but to "themselves" only, as well.

PEACEGIRL: Because they feel justified in what they are doing. This is covered in the book and how to prevent it.

AGE: Claiming, 'my conscience is clear', can be aligned with the "dunning-kruger" effect.

That is, the more you claim you know, are clear, the further away you are from the actual Truth.

PEACEGIRL: The fact that I claim this is a true discovery makes you uncomfortable. I'm sorry about that. This is not the "dunning'kruger" effect.

[peacegirl]

This encapsulates somewhat the problem I am experiencing.

https://youtu.be/0FBJdn6ipeQ?si=PVqSrfc0JZRpjMSd

[FlashDangerpants]

This encapsulates somewhat the problem I am experiencing.

https://youtu.be/0FBJdn6ipeQ?si=PVqSrfc0JZRpjMSd

You really are just the whiny victim of your own life aren't you?

[peacegirl]

This encapsulates somewhat the problem I am experiencing.

https://youtu.be/0FBJdn6ipeQ?si=PVqSrfc0JZRpjMSd

You really are just the whiny victim of your own life aren't you?

I really am hoping you'll change your mind in time.

[peacegirl]

DUPE

[FlashDangerpants]

This encapsulates somewhat the problem I am experiencing.

https://youtu.be/0FBJdn6ipeQ?si=PVqSrfc0JZRpjMSd

You really are just the whiny victim of your own life aren't you?

I really am hoping you'll change your mind in time.

Showing your usual lack of agency and "can't do" spirit.

[peacegirl]

You really are just the whiny victim of your own life aren't you?

I really am hoping you'll change your mind in time.

Showing your usual lack of agency and "can't do" spirit.

I am not sure what you mean. Having a can-do spirit does not mean I have free will. You are equating agency with free will. I have agency (i.e., the ability to choose), but I do not have free will. I am sure you know what I mean by now. We really aren't in as much disagreement as you think.

[peacegirl]

Never mind

[Age]

Never mind

Okay

[peacegirl]

I know that the elections are center stage, but that should not disregard a discovery that will have long-lasting positive effects on our world. I cannot help but be sad that the few who have looked at this work have thrown it out without one relevant question to show me that they actually understood what they read. I hope people searching for truth will find this page. Below are the first three chapters for ANYONE who is just coming to this thread.

I will say for the hundredth time I am not here for money, as Age keeps suggesting. It is disturbing to me because it is preventing the understanding that the solution to war, crime, and hatred, and poverty lies behind the door of determinism. But it is not what people think. Determinism does not mean we have no choice and we are not agents of our destiny. This is a problem with the present definition, which is the belief that if determinism is true, we are nothing more than robots, having been stripped of our autonomy. The only thing determinism removes is our pride that we accomplished our goals of our own free will. People seem to have a fear of determinism. There is nothing to be afraid of when the definition is defined accurately to reflect what is actually happening in reality.

https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:s ... b35b0724b3