The first valid evidence that god does NOT exist

[Senad Dizdarevic]

If this is what you just want to believe is true, then okay.


I asked you to, but you obviously did not.

So, either you do not have beliefs, or you just can not or do not want to reveal them, here.


Of course not. 'I' obviously would have to believe things, to have beliefs, like you do.


If you just want to tell me your beliefs, and what you believe is true, and do not want to seek out answers and clarity, then okay.

Do you believe or disbelieve any thing?

Don't manipulate and run away; present evidence for your claim about my beliefs.

Once again, are you going to tell me what your beliefs are, exactly?

If no, then why not? What are you afraid or scared of, exactly?

Also, will you present proof for your claim about me manipulating?

You said that I have certain beliefs.

I asked you to present them. You didn't.

When I asked you to present them, and you didn't, you said that I present them to you.

I don't need to present them to you if you already said that I have them, which means that you know them.

The manipulation in this case is that you claim something, but when asked to present it, you don't because you can't present it. Then you try to save yourself from the situation by reversing the "burden of proof", asking me to do your work and give you the beliefs you claimed I have, and that you know them.

[Senad Dizdarevic]

What do you mean by, 'energy is not infinite', exactly?



But, 'energy' is energy, while 'matter' is matter. One is not the other. So, what do you mean by, 'energy equals matter', exactly?


God is not 'somebody'. So, if 'nobody' created Existence, Itself, this does not mean that God, as Creator, does not exist at all.


Only an absolute imbecile would call the Creator of everything a "he". So, why do you keep doing this?

Is it because, obviously, if one calls the Creator of everything a "he", then 'that thing' could not exist.

Are you just defining 'a thing' in 'a way' that would be impossible to exist so then you can just say and claim, 'that thing does not exist', and say you have evidence, just so that you can feel like you have 'won' some thing, and/or so that you can feel better about "yourself"?

Imagine coming into a philosophy forum, defining 'a thing' in 'a way' that could never even exist, and then say and claim, 'The first valid evidence that 'that thing' does NOT exist.'


Talk about presenting another prime example of one who will just 'look for' any words, and present them in 'a way' in the hope that they will somehow back up and support one's already obtained and hel onto well-maintained beliefs.


Will you define the words, 'Universe' and 'cosmos' in the exact way that you are using them?

If no, then why not?


Their presence in relation what, exactly?

Is the Universe, for example, in your own little personal view and belief, here, big, or, small?


Who and/or what is this 'our' word, here, referring to, exactly?

So, the parts of Existence are eternal and at the same time, temporarily limited. Their position in Existence is eternal, but their range is only 14 billion years in time/space.

Again, 'this one' is 'grasping' at words, in the hope that they will somehow work for them and their already obtained belief, here.


So, 'tomorrow' has, already, happened, right?


If energy and material is finite then they have a beginning, and an end, and thus were created, somehow.

I suggest your revise 'your beliefs', and, your attempts at 'trying to' to justify 'thise already obtained beliefs'


you are just making things worse, for "yourself", here, now.

My statement that Energy is not infinite means that it is finite.

you appear to have misunderstood the question.

All matter has an energetic or-and physical beginning and end, so it is finite in space.

Which contradicts your other belief and claim.

Because it is part of Existence which is eternal, Energy = matter is also eternal. One measure is spatial, and the other temporal.

If you say so.

Energy is matter, and matter is energy. That means they are both material.

If this is the way you want to to think, here, then okay.

For many believers, god is somebody, a person. For others, god is energy, consciousness, everything, etc. No matter how you think of god, it doesn't exist, and he, she, or it didn't create Existence.

Has anyone in the history of the Universe ever said that God created Existence?

So, you call Hindus, Jews, Christians, and Muslims "imbeciles" because they believe that god is a man?

Why are you telling me what I call, but then you put a question mark at the end?

I use "he" as it is an ordinary term for god.

So, it does not matter how False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect a term is for a word, you will just keep using 'that term' because it is a so-called 'ordinary term', right?

I don't claim that god can't exist as "he", god does not exist in any form as the creator of Existence.

Of course a so called "he" God does not exist. Absolutely everyone who can think for "them" 'self' can work this out and know this. Just like any one can work out and know that if God is, already, existing, then It can not create Existence, Itself.

All you are essentially doing, here, is just pointing out the blatantly obvious. As I pointed out, previously, you present impossible to exist definitions and terms, and just say and claim that those impossible to exist terms/definitions do not exist. Which is, really, rather useless.

About measures. A whole house is x, single rooms inside are y.

I am not guilty of your ignorance. I present my ideas as simply as possible. Obviously, you are "grasping" with fact that some elements have two characteristics at the same time, like time and space.

Yes, tomorrow has already happened, and it will be happening to eternity.

If this is, really, what you want to believe is true, then this is perfectly fine and okay, with me.

If you watch closely, you will see that you always step into something and never into the Absolute Nothing. You are entering the experience that is already in place for you. More precisely, you and all of us are travelers in time and space, perceiving and experiencing what already exists.

But, 'you' do not yet know who 'I' am, exactly,

Energy and matter, both are the same, have a beginning and an end, but not in time, in space. In time, they are eternal, and they were never created.

Yet they are not infinite and finite, right?

The universe is all that is (I use the term Existence), and the cosmos is a part of it. A house is the universe, and single rooms in it are cosmoses.

So what?

Parts (cosmoses) of the whole (the universe or Existence) have different measures than the whole. A room is smaller than the house. That is their relation to each other - they are parts of the whole.

Who cares?

The universe (Existence) is big.

LOL Spoken from the Truly narrowed or closed.

You can see it by one of its parts, our cosmos. Simplified, if you are in a big room, and you know that a room is just a part of the house, then you know that the house is bigger than the room you are in.

Your conclusion is just another manipulation combination. First, you straw-man misrepresent my position, and then you attack me ad hominem.

If this is what you want to believe, then okay.

Your childish mocking is presenting yourself, "here".

Why don't you rather logically refute the simple scientific fact of the 1. law of thermodynamics that says that energy can't be created or destroyed? If you can.

LOL Are you under some sort of illusion that I am wanting to or trying to fight for some thing, here?

Energy can't be created or destroyed.
That means that it is eternal.

But finite right?

That means that nobody or nothing created it.
That means that god in any form or gender didn't create it.
That means that god as creator does not exist.

I am well aware of what you believe is absolutely true, here l. you have, after all, repeated your same belief enough times.

Refute it logically if you can.

Why would I even want to be bothered to refute your belief/s?
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So, you agree that god doesn't exist. Congratulations, you have just become an atheist.

"So what? Who cares? Why bother?"

You ask me things and then reject my answers with a bitter taste of apathy, despair, and resignation.

Don't play the victim of the truth. Truth brings change, liberation, and progress to the next level of self-development.

I am an honest man, kind and friendly. I am bringing you the news from the outside of the Matrix. I understand your allergic reactions to the truth because you think that you are in danger. You are not.

We have all been heavily programmed to believe in things that do not exist, like god and Satan, heaven and hell. I managed to exit the Matrix and see what is outside of the Program. I came to this forum to tell you the Good News that there is no god, just people from other planets who played with our lives.

In my work, I present the Truth, offering all to awaken into Pure Awareness and at least partially exist the karmic programming. Here are exercises: https://www.letterstopalkies.com/awaken ... exercises/ Use them and start deprogramming yourself, releasing old Ego Frankenstein personality and creating a new, whole, healthy, and aware personality.

Talking is not enough; you must practice to change yourself completely to evolve beyond the present personal disaster. When you become aware, you will realize who you really are. I guarantee you will be amazed by your wonderfulness.

I know that some parts of my work sound like fantasy. That is why I offer you a method of lucid dreaming for checking and confirming my claims. Here are instructions and exercises: https://god-doesntexist.com/lucid-dream ... in-dreams/. If I learned in one week, you can too.

Fighting, denying, and manipulating won't help you to progress; it just drags you even deeper into the swamp of Important I and Poor Me self-pity.

Rejection and resignation are not the way forward; acceptance and development are. Don't torture yourself, be positive, optimistic, and kind.

[Senad Dizdarevic]

The funniest part about watching you two fighting and bickering, here, is the irrefutable Fact that the Universe is infinite and eternal, and that this Fact actually proves that a Creator exists.

The things that you two are 'trying to' claim, here, actually refute and prove 'your own conclusions and beliefs' False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect.


Yet, LOL you are doing the exact same thing, here, "senad dizdarevic". you are both being as blind and as stupid as each other, here.


But, this in no way means that the Creator does not exist.

Present your "irrefutable Fact that the Universe is infinite and eternal, and that this Fact actually proves that a Creator exists."

Do you usually tell others what to do?

Ad hominem does not affect or change the simple fact that uncreated things are eternal.

If you believe so.

Eternal Existence was never created because it is impossible to create Energy.

you appear to not have thought thoroughly through this, yet.

No creation, no creator. Prove the opposite.

So, to you there is absolutely no creation absolutely anywhere, correct?

Think about it: if the World (energy=matter, Existence, the universe) can not be created, that means that Everything is already present.

[Senad Dizdarevic]

That's faulty reasoning. Why should the laws of the creation apply to the creator?

Even if we use your framework - why should the laws of this universe apply to Existence with all of its multiverses?


Oooooh! Is that what this is all about? Selling books. Yeah.... even more motivated reasoning.

There is no such thing as evidence for non-existence. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but I guess, now that you've wasted your time writing those books and trying to sell them - I guess I can't convince you of being wrong.


It's neither true nor false in the ontological sense. It's a postulate we assume so as to allow us to reason about the world with conserved quantities.


I have no idea what that means. If it's "eternal" why does the current cosmological paradigm predict the heat death of the universe?
Why should the universe end if energy is "eternal"?


I've been doing that. You don't care about my feedback. It would undermine your book sales I guess.


Which is why I lean towards a way of thinking which isn't founded on axioms/assumptions.

If creating is not possible, the creator can not exist. This law is universal and applies to all Existence.

Presenting ideas in books and selling them is a normal, legal, and common activity. Writers and salespeople are not criminals.

'This' may well be True, however wanting or expecting money for just 'thoughts', or teaching, is reprehensible.

But, you people in the days when this is being written do not, yet, comprehend and understand this.

E-book versions are free in public libraries.

There is evidence for non-existence; it is called proving the negative. You can prove the negative by proving that something can not exist. God as creator can not exist, so he does not exist.

Let 'us' follow 'this logic', and see how it works. "send dizdarevic" as creator can not exist, so it does not exist.

Writing the book series was time good spent. I learned a lot and developed my skills. I have published 12 books, and I will continue.

Is any one, besides you, following your books?

You are mixing two unmixable things: even if the cosmos were to "die" of "cold", which won't happen, it would still exist. "Cooling down" does not mean disappearing.

You didn't present not even one of the alleged contradictions; you only presented your ignorance ("I don't know what is eternal"), stubbornly misrepresenting my claims.

I answer all your comments. If you don't like my answers, that is another thing.

What is your thinking founded on then? On faith? Dogma? Are you a religious believer? A Christian? Which denomination?

Yes, my books are read on all 200.000 planets, and they will be known on Earth too. Learn to lucid dream, https://god-doesntexist.com/lucid-dream ... in-dreams/ meet inhabitants of other planets in dreams, and ask them about me and my work. My nickname is Seno.

[Senad Dizdarevic]

OK. Numbers can't be created or destroyed. And they are infinite.


Yes, I know. That's called "equivocation".


Numbers are not finite - this doesn't mean they are infinite. It just means that you have no reason to believe they are finite.

If numbers are finite - what's the last one?


It is absolutely clear to me that you are confused.


But the universe you live in (and we all do) has a beginning. What or where is this "existence" and how did you come to know that it....exists?



Any mix up you are sensing in this dialogue is all yours.
No such mix up is happening here. Infinity in any dimension (spatial; or temporal) is still infinity!

If the universe is temporally unbound but spatially bound - it's infinite.
If the universe is spatially unbound but temporally bound - it's infinite.


Sure thing. The universe is ~14 billion years old. So it's not eternal.

Given finite temporal evidence how have you inferred eternal age?

Numbers can be infinite in theory, but not in practice. There is an end to counting them. The last one is the last the counter will be able to count.

I use the terms temporal-eternal for time, and finite-infinite for space. Have you heard of eternity?

Our cosmos has a physical beginning but has no temporal beginning in the absolute sense - as a part of Eternal Existence is eternal, while at the same time, it has its own timeline which is limited.

For example, it is eternal (absolute value), and at the same time, it is 14 billion years old (relative value) in the inner space-time continuum. One meter has 100 centimeters. They are all parts of the whole, while having their own measure, which is smaller than the meter. They have two characteristics at the same time - one as part of the whole, and another as their own.

I have already answered you this, but you don't understand it, or you don't want to understand it.

'it' is not being understood because inconsistencies or contradictions are not able to be 'understood'.

Thus why people do not understand 'your it, beliefs, and claims', here.

you have been asked to clarify 'it'. you choose not to. So, because you will not express what you are actually meaning, this is why others do not understand 'it'.

Existence was not created, has no temporal beginning or end, so it is eternal.

So what?

None of 'this' infers, let alone proves, that a 'creator' does not exist.

Until you want to have a Truly open and honest discussion, you will just keep expressing only 'your beliefs', here. Which are, obviously, not being understood. And, why 'it/they' are not being understood is also clearly obvious.

1. law of thermodynamics is not "my belief". It is a valid scientific law that I use as the first piece of evidence that god as creator does not exist.

When Something is not created, that means that it is eternal. No creation, no creator.

[Senad Dizdarevic]

Numbers can be infinite in theory, but not in practice. There is an end to counting them. The last one is the last the counter will be able to count.

That's precisely what "infinite" means in practice! Even if you stop counting at N, you could've counted to N+1. For ANY N!

I use the terms temporal-eternal for time, and finite-infinite for space. Have you heard of eternity?

Which is precisely the same thing as infinite numbers. There is always the next second. And the next. And the next!

Our cosmos has a physical beginning but has no temporal beginning in the absolute sense - as a part of Eternal Existence is eternal, while at the same time, it has its own timeline which is limited.

You have absolutely no way of knowing that to be true. For all you know Existence is also limited. Maybe it's just less limited than our cosmos.

Existence was not created, has no temporal beginning or end, so it is eternal.

How do you know that? How do you know that Existence didn't begin a mere moment before our cosmos did?

You could have, but you didn't.

There is a finite sum of parts in Energy. One day, in a distant future, we will come to the last unexperienced experience. In that moment, we will experience Everything that exists. To continue, we will start by repeating some of our past experiences in circles. After that, we will eternally circle through Existence, re-experiencing our past experiences forever.

Existence has two parts: Pure Awarenes, a non-material and infinite superstate, and Energy, a material and finite part. So, Existence is in part unlimited as PA, and limited as Energy or material part.

Energy = matter can't be created, which means that it is eternal. Pure Awareness also can't be created, and it is eternal too. That means that both parts of Existence, PA and Energy, weren't created - they are eternal. That means that Existence as a whole is eternal.

[Senad Dizdarevic]

I read all of CC's books, and most of his disciples, and all the articles that I could get.

I was a big fan until I learned the Big Picture, Karmic Organization, and their dirty work. Nagualism is just another of their religions, in this case, based on magics.

Don Juan's stories were very interesting, and some of his exercises were and are still beneficial.

Stopping the mind is necessary for any serious personal development. Detaching from the mind is a step toward personal freedom ( in nagualism, the mind is an artificial installation, and a control mechanism, symbolically the Flyer itself). Living in inner silence is the fundamental way of life. Recapitulation is the proper way to deal with your past and a reminder not to repeat the harmful patterns. Lucid dreaming opens you the doors to other worlds.

Despite the stories and useful exercises, nagualism as a Story about the Eagle (god creator), incarnation, and reincarnation, and "Freedom" for all who succeed, transform their physical body to an energy body and fly past the Eagle to the Unknown, is just a karmic hoax. It is a false promise, just like Jesus's second coming. He didn't come the first time, as he never lived as a real person, so he won't come the second time either.

You are partially right, the karmicons, karmic cons, and Flyers are in relation. But with a big difference. Don Juan presented them as non-human energy beings, while in fact most of them were humans from other planets.

About my "dreams" and gifts: use your old skill of lucid dreaming, revive it, and start exploring. It is free, it is easy, and you won't lose any time as you are doing it when you sleep. I will gladly support you all the way. If you know anybody who would like to learn it, send them the link to my article with instructions.

If my "story" about Existence is too much for you at the time, try exercises for awakening into Pure Awareness and lucid dreaming. Both are pure practice: first, how to learn to stop the mind, relax the body, and become aware of Awareness; second, how to become conscious that you dream, and what to do in dreams, when you become lucid.

FYI I don’t necessarily discount anything.

I have not thought about the CC world for quite a few years now but I did read every book of his. And I was involved for years with people who in LA had to deal with the fallout and destruction when his cultish scene fell apart.

“Castles made of sand …”

In your system how do you understand “omens from the world”? (Introduced first in Journey to Ixtlan).

I live in Europe, so the CC scene was far away. In those without internet, it was hard to get his books, let alone insider information.

When you know that your life was fully scripted in advance, even 100 and more years before your birth, then you know that "omens" are also fabricated.

In the DJ times, there were deciphering birds flying, presenting it as a good or bad omen flying to the south or to the north.

Today, people watch repeating numbers on their phones and digital clocks, guessing what 11:11 could mean.

The karmicons put some signs into our lives, especially at the big crossroads in life, to drive us in the right direction. Even if you don't see or understand them, you can't fail - you will execute their program and do exactly what is in your script.

You can read more about the preparation of humans from other planets for incarnations in Michael Duff Newton's Books. The karmicons pre-wrote it - like all books except mine - so there are many lies, but enough truth to get a good picture of their work.

There is also a very interesting short book, The Nine Steps: A Story of Birth and Rebirth by French authors Anne Givaudan and Daniel Meurois.

When I read Rebecca's statement that at the birth of a child, people cry on other planets, and when we die, they are happy, I knew that something was totally wrong with the story about incarnations as voluntary self-development in the "School of Life". Later, I learned that all incarnations are forced.

Speaking about signs, my book series are one of the best signs ever, as they present the truth about the Karmic Organization, and the fantastic future waiting for us.

[Age]

Don't manipulate and run away; present evidence for your claim about my beliefs.

Once again, are you going to tell me what your beliefs are, exactly?

If no, then why not? What are you afraid or scared of, exactly?

Also, will you present proof for your claim about me manipulating?

You said that I have certain beliefs.

I asked you to present them. You didn't.

When I asked you to present them, and you didn't, you said that I present them to you.

I don't need to present them to you if you already said that I have them, which means that you know them.

The manipulation in this case is that you claim something, but when asked to present it, you don't because you can't present it.

Are you 100%, without doubt, absolutely sure that I can not present your beliefs?

Then you try to save yourself from the situation by reversing the "burden of proof", asking me to do your work and give you the beliefs you claimed I have, and that you know them.

When and where, exactly, did I say that I know them?

I said and wrote, 'your own beliefs are causing [you] to mix delusion with existence, as well'.

I also said and wrote, 'you are not open to this Fact, just like everyone else is who has beliefs, also.'

I, furthermore, said and wrote, ''I' do not want to tell 'you' what your beliefs are, so 'I' will let 'you' tell 'us' what 'your beliefs', here, are, exactly.'

And then said and wrote, 'If you inform 'us' of what your beliefs are, exactly, then I will show how 'they' are causing you to mix delusion with existence.'

So far you have not presented 'your beliefs', here. And, as I said and wrote, I do not want to tell 'you' what your beliefs are.

Now, do you want to claim that you have no beliefs at all?

I then went on to say and write, 'By the way, you have your own religious beliefs. But, as you will show and prove, you will 'religiously' 'believe' otherwise.'

Because 'you' do not like to have open and honest discussions, here, and you expect 'me' to tell 'you' what your beliefs are, and how those beliefs mix delusion with existence, then one of your beliefs, here, is that you have valid evidence that God does not exist. So, to you, God does not exist. Which is mixing delusion with existence. See, while some thing is in creation, then there is a creator. The Universe is in Creation, (through evolution), and the Creator of this Creation some times goes by the name, 'God'. Making the Creator of this Creation, in Existence, God, Itself.

Now, you may well claim to know that God does not exist. But, I just showed how God can, and does, exist, in the context presented. Which, by the way, is proved by Existence, Itself. Therefore, meaning that what you claim to know, and which you believe you have evidence for, is just 'you' mixing delusion with existence.

Now, and obviously, you may well claim that 'that' is not one of your beliefs. But, because you will not be open and honest and present 'your beliefs', here, then any time I present a belief, of yours, to show how you are mixing delusion with existence, which you claim others do, then you can, then, just say and claim that 'that' is not 'your belief'.

So, again, if you do not like to be open and honest, here, then, really, there is no use even trying to discuss things, 'with you'.

[Skepdick]

You could have, but you didn't.

There is a finite sum of parts in Energy. One day, in a distant future, we will come to the last unexperienced experience. In that moment, we will experience Everything that exists. To continue, we will start by repeating some of our past experiences in circles. After that, we will eternally circle through Existence, re-experiencing our past experiences forever.

Existence has two parts: Pure Awarenes, a non-material and infinite superstate, and Energy, a material and finite part. So, Existence is in part unlimited as PA, and limited as Energy or material part.

Energy = matter can't be created, which means that it is eternal. Pure Awareness also can't be created, and it is eternal too. That means that both parts of Existence, PA and Energy, weren't created - they are eternal. That means that Existence as a whole is eternal.

OK Deepak.

[Senad Dizdarevic]

If creating is not possible, the creator can not exist. This law is universal and applies to all Existence.

It can't be "universal". It starts with an "IF". Universals aren't conditional.

Your "universal law" is just a conditional claim dependent on an unproven premise

Presenting ideas in books and selling them is a normal, legal, and common activity. Writers and salespeople are not criminals.

Nobody accused you of committing a crime. You are only accused of being motivated to pretend you aren't wrong.

You are financial inceitivised to defend your argument even at the expense of truth.

You are mixing two unmixable things: even if the cosmos were to "die" of "cold", which won't happen, it would still exist.

Oh, so the cosmos is also eternal now? Like Existence.

What is your thinking founded on then? On faith? Dogma? Are you a religious believer? A Christian? Which denomination?

My thinking isn't "founded" on anything. Thinking is what I do as a matter of course.

I know how to do it - so I do it.

Here is in affirmative form: creating is not possible, so the creator does not exist. No conditions here.

I don't pretend to be wrong, and I am not; that is just your desperate attempt to present them like that.

1. law of thermodynamics is not wrong; it is a valid scientific law. I use it for my first piece of evidence that god does not exist.

Instead of ad hominem, which is the same as admitting your defeat, refute the 1. law of thermodynamics with logic if you can.

Cosmos is part of eternal Existence, so in this sense, it is also eternal.

How do you know then what to say? Instinctively?

How do you understand different meanings, ethics, and logic without a foundation?

Is that a reason that you can't understand the simple facts I am presenting?

[Age]

My statement that Energy is not infinite means that it is finite.

you appear to have misunderstood the question.

All matter has an energetic or-and physical beginning and end, so it is finite in space.

Which contradicts your other belief and claim.

Because it is part of Existence which is eternal, Energy = matter is also eternal. One measure is spatial, and the other temporal.

If you say so.

Energy is matter, and matter is energy. That means they are both material.

If this is the way you want to to think, here, then okay.

For many believers, god is somebody, a person. For others, god is energy, consciousness, everything, etc. No matter how you think of god, it doesn't exist, and he, she, or it didn't create Existence.

Has anyone in the history of the Universe ever said that God created Existence?

So, you call Hindus, Jews, Christians, and Muslims "imbeciles" because they believe that god is a man?

Why are you telling me what I call, but then you put a question mark at the end?

I use "he" as it is an ordinary term for god.

So, it does not matter how False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect a term is for a word, you will just keep using 'that term' because it is a so-called 'ordinary term', right?

I don't claim that god can't exist as "he", god does not exist in any form as the creator of Existence.

Of course a so called "he" God does not exist. Absolutely everyone who can think for "them" 'self' can work this out and know this. Just like any one can work out and know that if God is, already, existing, then It can not create Existence, Itself.

All you are essentially doing, here, is just pointing out the blatantly obvious. As I pointed out, previously, you present impossible to exist definitions and terms, and just say and claim that those impossible to exist terms/definitions do not exist. Which is, really, rather useless.

About measures. A whole house is x, single rooms inside are y.

I am not guilty of your ignorance. I present my ideas as simply as possible. Obviously, you are "grasping" with fact that some elements have two characteristics at the same time, like time and space.

Yes, tomorrow has already happened, and it will be happening to eternity.

If this is, really, what you want to believe is true, then this is perfectly fine and okay, with me.

If you watch closely, you will see that you always step into something and never into the Absolute Nothing. You are entering the experience that is already in place for you. More precisely, you and all of us are travelers in time and space, perceiving and experiencing what already exists.

But, 'you' do not yet know who 'I' am, exactly,

Energy and matter, both are the same, have a beginning and an end, but not in time, in space. In time, they are eternal, and they were never created.

Yet they are not infinite and finite, right?

The universe is all that is (I use the term Existence), and the cosmos is a part of it. A house is the universe, and single rooms in it are cosmoses.

So what?

Parts (cosmoses) of the whole (the universe or Existence) have different measures than the whole. A room is smaller than the house. That is their relation to each other - they are parts of the whole.

Who cares?

The universe (Existence) is big.

LOL Spoken from the Truly narrowed or closed.

You can see it by one of its parts, our cosmos. Simplified, if you are in a big room, and you know that a room is just a part of the house, then you know that the house is bigger than the room you are in.

Your conclusion is just another manipulation combination. First, you straw-man misrepresent my position, and then you attack me ad hominem.

If this is what you want to believe, then okay.

Your childish mocking is presenting yourself, "here".

Why don't you rather logically refute the simple scientific fact of the 1. law of thermodynamics that says that energy can't be created or destroyed? If you can.

LOL Are you under some sort of illusion that I am wanting to or trying to fight for some thing, here?

Energy can't be created or destroyed.
That means that it is eternal.

But finite right?

That means that nobody or nothing created it.
That means that god in any form or gender didn't create it.
That means that god as creator does not exist.

I am well aware of what you believe is absolutely true, here l. you have, after all, repeated your same belief enough times.

Refute it logically if you can.

Why would I even want to be bothered to refute your belief/s?

So, you agree that god doesn't exist. Congratulations, you have just become an atheist. [/quote]

And, once again, 'your misinterpretations' have let you down, completely.

"So what? Who cares? Why bother?"

But, 'your interpretation' could not have been more Wrong. Therefore, what you just said, wrote, and asked, here, is absolutely moot.

You ask me things and then reject my answers with a bitter taste of apathy, despair, and resignation.

And, you answer some questions, only. Because, deep down, you know if you answered the other questions openly and honestly, then you would have to retract some of the things that you have said and claimed, here.

Don't play the victim of the truth. Truth brings change, liberation, and progress to the next level of self-development.

Again, you attempt to deflect, and deceive.

I am an honest man, kind and friendly.

So, what are you beliefs, here, exactly?

Show 'us' how honest you really are, "senad dizdarevic".

I am bringing you the news from the outside of the Matrix. I understand your allergic reactions to the truth because you think that you are in danger. You are not.

Now 'you have gone completely off the rails', as some would say, here.

We have all been heavily programmed to believe in things that do not exist, like god and Satan, heaven and hell. I managed to exit the Matrix and see what is outside of the Program. I came to this forum to tell you the Good News that there is no god, just people from other planets who played with our lives.

Look "senad dizdarevic" you are absolutely free to believe absolutely any thing you like, but be forewarned, not until you can prove your beliefs and claims irrefutably True, they are not going to be accepted and agreed with, by all.

In my work, I present the Truth, offering all to awaken into Pure Awareness and at least partially exist the karmic programming. Here are exercises: https://www.letterstopalkies.com/awaken ... exercises/ Use them and start deprogramming yourself, releasing old Ego Frankenstein personality and creating a new, whole, healthy, and aware personality.

So, you have just stopped accepting and believing what you are told to accept and believe by some people, there, on earth, but you accept and believe what you are told to accept and believe by people, on other planets. Which is all well and good, as, again, you are absolutely free to believe and accept absolutely any thing of your choosing.

Talking is not enough; you must practice to change yourself completely to evolve beyond the present personal disaster. When you become aware, you will realize who you really are. I guarantee you will be amazed by your wonderfulness.

So, who are 'you', exactly, and really?

Let 'us' see who the, real, 'you' is, exactly.

I know that some parts of my work sound like fantasy. That is why I offer you a method of lucid dreaming for checking and confirming my claims. Here are instructions and exercises: https://god-doesntexist.com/lucid-dream ... in-dreams/. If I learned in one week, you can too.

But what happens if 'my lucid dreams' lead 'me' to seeing and knowing that 'your lucid dreams' have led you completely astray from what is actually irrefutably True and Right, in Life?

Fighting, denying, and manipulating won't help you to progress; it just drags you even deeper into the swamp of Important I and Poor Me self-pity.

Is 'this' what 'you' are doing, here?

If no, then are you absolutely sure?

Rejection and resignation are not the way forward; acceptance and development are.

So, why are you rejecting and resigning from the actual Truths, and not accepting and developing Them?

Don't torture yourself, be positive, optimistic, and kind.

Do you, really, believe that your attempts at deflection, and deception, do not go unnoticed?

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Present your "irrefutable Fact that the Universe is infinite and eternal, and that this Fact actually proves that a Creator exists."

Do you usually tell others what to do?

Ad hominem does not affect or change the simple fact that uncreated things are eternal.

If you believe so.

Eternal Existence was never created because it is impossible to create Energy.

you appear to not have thought thoroughly through this, yet.

No creation, no creator. Prove the opposite.

So, to you there is absolutely no creation absolutely anywhere, correct?

Think about it: if the World (energy=matter, Existence, the universe) can not be created, that means that Everything is already present.

Are you under some delusion that the whole Universe was all created at once?

The Universe is IN Creation.
And, with every creation there is A creator.
The Creator of this, already and ever present, Creation is just some times referred to as God.

That you had not before been able to think about 'this Fact' is because you have been very narrowed, and closed, here.

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Numbers can be infinite in theory, but not in practice. There is an end to counting them. The last one is the last the counter will be able to count.

I use the terms temporal-eternal for time, and finite-infinite for space. Have you heard of eternity?

Our cosmos has a physical beginning but has no temporal beginning in the absolute sense - as a part of Eternal Existence is eternal, while at the same time, it has its own timeline which is limited.

For example, it is eternal (absolute value), and at the same time, it is 14 billion years old (relative value) in the inner space-time continuum. One meter has 100 centimeters. They are all parts of the whole, while having their own measure, which is smaller than the meter. They have two characteristics at the same time - one as part of the whole, and another as their own.

I have already answered you this, but you don't understand it, or you don't want to understand it.

'it' is not being understood because inconsistencies or contradictions are not able to be 'understood'.

Thus why people do not understand 'your it, beliefs, and claims', here.

you have been asked to clarify 'it'. you choose not to. So, because you will not express what you are actually meaning, this is why others do not understand 'it'.

Existence was not created, has no temporal beginning or end, so it is eternal.

So what?

None of 'this' infers, let alone proves, that a 'creator' does not exist.

Until you want to have a Truly open and honest discussion, you will just keep expressing only 'your beliefs', here. Which are, obviously, not being understood. And, why 'it/they' are not being understood is also clearly obvious.

1. law of thermodynamics is not "my belief". It is a valid scientific law that I use as the first piece of evidence that god as creator does not exist.

Well it obviously does not work, so why you keep 'trying to' use only 'you' know, right?

When Something is not created, that means that it is eternal. No creation, no creator.

The Universe, [all there is; everything; totality], being eternal, and infinite, is just A Fact that no one could refute.
But, what you are obviously clearly missing, here, I have already pointed out, and shown.

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Numbers can be infinite in theory, but not in practice. There is an end to counting them. The last one is the last the counter will be able to count.

That's precisely what "infinite" means in practice! Even if you stop counting at N, you could've counted to N+1. For ANY N!

I use the terms temporal-eternal for time, and finite-infinite for space. Have you heard of eternity?

Which is precisely the same thing as infinite numbers. There is always the next second. And the next. And the next!

Our cosmos has a physical beginning but has no temporal beginning in the absolute sense - as a part of Eternal Existence is eternal, while at the same time, it has its own timeline which is limited.

You have absolutely no way of knowing that to be true. For all you know Existence is also limited. Maybe it's just less limited than our cosmos.

Existence was not created, has no temporal beginning or end, so it is eternal.

How do you know that? How do you know that Existence didn't begin a mere moment before our cosmos did?

You could have, but you didn't.

There is a finite sum of parts in Energy. One day, in a distant future, we will come to the last unexperienced experience. In that moment, we will experience Everything that exists. To continue, we will start by repeating some of our past experiences in circles. After that, we will eternally circle through Existence, re-experiencing our past experiences forever.

Why do you believe that you will do this?

Existence has two parts: Pure Awarenes, a non-material and infinite superstate, and Energy, a material and finite part. So, Existence is in part unlimited as PA, and limited as Energy or material part.

Energy = matter can't be created, which means that it is eternal. Pure Awareness also can't be created, and it is eternal too. That means that both parts of Existence, PA and Energy, weren't created - they are eternal. That means that Existence as a whole is eternal.

Are you aware that you are just circular reasoning, here, or just 'begging the question', as some would say. Which is not arguing soundly and validly, at all?

If instead of just 'looking for' words, which you hope will back up and support your already held beliefs, and instead 'sought to' work 'with others', then what 'it' is that you, really, want to express and say, here, could be presented in a Truly valid and sound argumentative form, which, obviously, could not then be refuted by absolutely any one.

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I read all of CC's books, and most of his disciples, and all the articles that I could get.

I was a big fan until I learned the Big Picture, Karmic Organization, and their dirty work. Nagualism is just another of their religions, in this case, based on magics.

Don Juan's stories were very interesting, and some of his exercises were and are still beneficial.

Stopping the mind is necessary for any serious personal development. Detaching from the mind is a step toward personal freedom ( in nagualism, the mind is an artificial installation, and a control mechanism, symbolically the Flyer itself). Living in inner silence is the fundamental way of life. Recapitulation is the proper way to deal with your past and a reminder not to repeat the harmful patterns. Lucid dreaming opens you the doors to other worlds.

Despite the stories and useful exercises, nagualism as a Story about the Eagle (god creator), incarnation, and reincarnation, and "Freedom" for all who succeed, transform their physical body to an energy body and fly past the Eagle to the Unknown, is just a karmic hoax. It is a false promise, just like Jesus's second coming. He didn't come the first time, as he never lived as a real person, so he won't come the second time either.

You are partially right, the karmicons, karmic cons, and Flyers are in relation. But with a big difference. Don Juan presented them as non-human energy beings, while in fact most of them were humans from other planets.

About my "dreams" and gifts: use your old skill of lucid dreaming, revive it, and start exploring. It is free, it is easy, and you won't lose any time as you are doing it when you sleep. I will gladly support you all the way. If you know anybody who would like to learn it, send them the link to my article with instructions.

If my "story" about Existence is too much for you at the time, try exercises for awakening into Pure Awareness and lucid dreaming. Both are pure practice: first, how to learn to stop the mind, relax the body, and become aware of Awareness; second, how to become conscious that you dream, and what to do in dreams, when you become lucid.

FYI I don’t necessarily discount anything.

I have not thought about the CC world for quite a few years now but I did read every book of his. And I was involved for years with people who in LA had to deal with the fallout and destruction when his cultish scene fell apart.

“Castles made of sand …”

In your system how do you understand “omens from the world”? (Introduced first in Journey to Ixtlan).

I live in Europe, so the CC scene was far away. In those without internet, it was hard to get his books, let alone insider information.

When you know that your life was fully scripted in advance, even 100 and more years before your birth, then you know that "omens" are also fabricated.

In the DJ times, there were deciphering birds flying, presenting it as a good or bad omen flying to the south or to the north.

Today, people watch repeating numbers on their phones and digital clocks, guessing what 11:11 could mean.

The karmicons put some signs into our lives, especially at the big crossroads in life, to drive us in the right direction. Even if you don't see or understand them, you can't fail - you will execute their program and do exactly what is in your script.

You can read more about the preparation of humans from other planets for incarnations in Michael Duff Newton's Books. The karmicons pre-wrote it - like all books except mine - so there are many lies, but enough truth to get a good picture of their work.

There is also a very interesting short book, The Nine Steps: A Story of Birth and Rebirth by French authors Anne Givaudan and Daniel Meurois.

When I read Rebecca's statement that at the birth of a child, people cry on other planets, and when we die, they are happy, I knew that something was totally wrong with the story about incarnations as voluntary self-development in the "School of Life". Later, I learned that all incarnations are forced.

Speaking about signs, my book series are one of the best signs ever, as they present the truth about the Karmic Organization, and the fantastic future waiting for us.

Are you aware that there are other people who also claim that 'their books', like the bible and the koran present the truth about 'their God', as well?

Also, what does this so-called 'fantastic future', which is waiting for 'us', entail, exactly?