The first valid evidence that god does NOT exist

[SpheresOfBalance]

What would be the best book on Christianity for an atheist?

One with the valid proof that god does not exist.

Missing valid evidence for god's nonexistence is the atheist's Pain Point. For thousands of years, they have been arguing with theists about god's existence, but can't get past the word-against-word stalemate.

I have discovered the first valid evidence that god does NOT exist because that is not possible. In fact, in my new book series "It's Finally PROVEN! God Does NOT Exist The FIRST valid EVIDENCE in History", I present four pieces of evidence, scientific, logical, ontological, and experiential.

Read more about this breakthrough and game-changing book series on my webpage https://god-doesntexist.com/

P.S. I presented three objective pieces of evidence (the fourth one is subjective but fully supports and reinforces the first three) to multiple AIs - ChatGPT and Claude, and both acknowledged that they are logically irrefutable.

Currently there is no proof either way. The atheists can't 'Know' their isn't and the theists can't 'Know' there is. Both currently can only believe their views. Since I'm an agnostic, meaning that I'm standing on the fence, I can see farther than either of the two.

And, the one/s who have already seen and obtained the proof, and the facts, already do know, and thus do see even much further.

Sorry Age, but that's impossible!

[Age]

Currently there is no proof either way. The atheists can't 'Know' their isn't and the theists can't 'Know' there is. Both currently can only believe their views. Since I'm an agnostic, meaning that I'm standing on the fence, I can see farther than either of the two.

And, the one/s who have already seen and obtained the proof, and the facts, already do know, and thus do see even much further.

Sorry Age, but that's impossible!

What do you believe, absolutely, is impossible, here, "spheresofbalance"?

[Age]

Currently there is no proof either way. The atheists can't 'Know' their isn't and the theists can't 'Know' there is.

"ists" are not open to learn what the actual Truths are, exactly. "ists" believe what they do so can only 'see' what they already do. 'they' are not able to learn, nor know, more nor anew.

Both currently can only believe their views.

Just like 'you' 'currently' believe what you do.

And, once you believe that 'your views' are true or right, then 'you' also are not open to learn, and to know.

Since I'm an agnostic, meaning that I'm standing on the fence, I can see farther than either of the two.

Here, is 'the belief', which is what is stopping 'this one' from seeing, learning, and knowing what the actual Truths are, exactly.

[SpheresOfBalance]

And, the one/s who have already seen and obtained the proof, and the facts, already do know, and thus do see even much further.

Sorry Age, but that's impossible!

What do you believe, absolutely, is impossible, here, "spheresofbalance"?

You're confused Age, there is a big difference between belief and knowledge, I speak of "Knowledge", you speak of JTB so you obviously forgot about the lesson of the cow and the farmer.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Currently there is no proof either way. The atheists can't 'Know' their isn't and the theists can't 'Know' there is.

"ists" are not open to learn what the actual Truths are, exactly. "ists" believe what they do so can only 'see' what they already do. 'they' are not able to learn, nor know, more nor anew.

Both currently can only believe their views.

Just like 'you' 'currently' believe what you do.

And, once you believe that 'your views' are true or right, then 'you' also are not open to learn, and to know.

Since I'm an agnostic, meaning that I'm standing on the fence, I can see farther than either of the two.

Here, is 'the belief', which is what is stopping 'this one' from seeing, learning, and knowing what the actual Truths are, exactly.

You're so wrong it's not funny, I'll not take the time to educate you, because you're obviously intellectually below me. What happened to you, I once thought you had a pretty good mind. Did you have a stroke or something, I hope not, but it sure seems true. Maybe you've gotten too caught up in your arguments here. Somethings different. Have you been exposed to some HAZMAT or something?

[Age]

Sorry Age, but that's impossible!

What do you believe, absolutely, is impossible, here, "spheresofbalance"?

You're confused Age, there is a big difference between belief and knowledge, I speak of "Knowledge", you speak of JTB so you obviously forgot about the lesson of the cow and the farmer.

LOL

1. I never ever spoke of 'jtb'. So, there is a prime example of 'confusion', itself.

2. I asked you to just clarify some thing, you, once again, failed absolutely at just doing that very simplest of things.

[Age]

Currently there is no proof either way. The atheists can't 'Know' their isn't and the theists can't 'Know' there is.

"ists" are not open to learn what the actual Truths are, exactly. "ists" believe what they do so can only 'see' what they already do. 'they' are not able to learn, nor know, more nor anew.

Both currently can only believe their views.

Just like 'you' 'currently' believe what you do.

And, once you believe that 'your views' are true or right, then 'you' also are not open to learn, and to know.

Since I'm an agnostic, meaning that I'm standing on the fence, I can see farther than either of the two.

Here, is 'the belief', which is what is stopping 'this one' from seeing, learning, and knowing what the actual Truths are, exactly.

You're so wrong it's not funny, I'll not take the time to educate you, because you're obviously intellectually below me.

Okay. But just writing things like, 'you are so wrong', does not explain much at all, really.

What happened to you, I once thought you had a pretty good mind. Did you have a stroke or something, I hope not, but it sure seems true. Maybe you've gotten too caught up in your arguments here. Somethings different. Have you been exposed to some HAZMAT or something?

Again, absolutely nothing is being related to.

'I' am not just wrong 'I' am 'so wrong'.

But, in relation to what, exactly, will not be pointed out and expressed, so maybe 'I' am just so wrong in relation to absolutely every thing I say and write, here.

By the way, like 'you', 'I' do not have a mind. But, then again, 'I' would be 'so wrong', here' also, correct?

[SpheresOfBalance]

What do you believe, absolutely, is impossible, here, "spheresofbalance"?

You're confused Age, there is a big difference between belief and knowledge, I speak of "Knowledge", you speak of JTB so you obviously forgot about the lesson of the cow and the farmer.

LOL

1. I never ever spoke of 'jtb'. So, there is a prime example of 'confusion', itself.

2. I asked you to just clarify some thing, you, once again, failed absolutely at just doing that very simplest of things.

Are you drunk, maybe that's it.
If you don't know about JTB in a philosophy forum, maybe you should look it up.

[Age]

Sorry Age, but that's impossible!

What do you believe, absolutely, is impossible, here, "spheresofbalance"?

You're confused Age, there is a big difference between belief and knowledge, I speak of "Knowledge", you speak of JTB so you obviously forgot about the lesson of the cow and the farmer.

Although 'this one' claims that it is 'I' who is confused it has confused a question asked for clarification, only, and from a Truly open perspective, only, as 'me' speaking, and not just of speaking but of speaking of some thing that was never even thought about, let alone spoke about.

[Age]

You're confused Age, there is a big difference between belief and knowledge, I speak of "Knowledge", you speak of JTB so you obviously forgot about the lesson of the cow and the farmer.

LOL

1. I never ever spoke of 'jtb'. So, there is a prime example of 'confusion', itself.

2. I asked you to just clarify some thing, you, once again, failed absolutely at just doing that very simplest of things.

Are you drunk, maybe that's it.
If you don't know about JTB in a philosophy forum, maybe you should look it up.

LOL
you keep making these Truly absurd assumptions, here, and then jumping to Truly irrational conclusions, and worse still you are believing your own made up False and Wrong conclusions as being what is true and right.

Just because I was not talking about 'jtb' in no way means that I do not know about 'jtb' in a philosophy forum.

The only one who brought up and talked about 'jtb', hee, is you. And, you imagining and 'seeing' that I was just goes to show how confused you really are, here

[SpheresOfBalance]

"ists" are not open to learn what the actual Truths are, exactly. "ists" believe what they do so can only 'see' what they already do. 'they' are not able to learn, nor know, more nor anew.


Just like 'you' 'currently' believe what you do.

And, once you believe that 'your views' are true or right, then 'you' also are not open to learn, and to know.


Here, is 'the belief', which is what is stopping 'this one' from seeing, learning, and knowing what the actual Truths are, exactly.

You're so wrong it's not funny, I'll not take the time to educate you, because you're obviously intellectually below me.

Okay. But just writing things like, 'you are so wrong', does not explain much at all, really.

What happened to you, I once thought you had a pretty good mind. Did you have a stroke or something, I hope not, but it sure seems true. Maybe you've gotten too caught up in your arguments here. Somethings different. Have you been exposed to some HAZMAT or something?

Again, absolutely nothing is being related to.

'I' am not just wrong 'I' am 'so wrong'.

But, in relation to what, exactly, will not be pointed out and expressed, so maybe 'I' am just so wrong in relation to absolutely every thing I say and write, here.

By the way, like 'you', 'I' do not have a mind. But, then again, 'I' would be 'so wrong', here' also, correct?

Honestly, if someone can't be on the same page with me, I'm far too lazy to try and explain things to them. That didn't use to be the case but age, pardon the pun, has caught up with me, with all my own health related issues. So I'm looking for someone that can argue these issues that at least understands the points I make. It's nothing personal.

OK, I'll explain one thing before I go: The reason I chose the word "Impossible" is because in the truest sense of the word and the points being made by you and I, Atheists can't know what it is that they don't know, and not seeing something yet, has no necessary bearing on the future, as humans are relatively babies in terms of knowing the universe completely. And Theists can only say that god has talked to them or that they only have faith, which is without knowledge, but I know that humans lie and some of them are schizophrenics, that hear voices in their heads, I know because I have a friend that is one. And a so called all knowing, omnipresent god hasn't made itself visible to all of us which would be the best way to get us to believe in it, and it would know that we know that people lie, so why would it just tell a few and have them tell the rest, because we might believe them to be liars or schizophrenics, that would mean that god is a dumb ass and it's supposed to be all knowing. See what I mean, IMPOSSIBLE! Neither side can 'prove' either side. An agnostic can at least 'believe', not Know, that either belief has a chance of being true, that the jury is still out. Now does the logic speak for itself. If not "logically" prove it wrong. You can't, no one can. Oh, they can make up stories alright and try and confuse you, but no one can logically 'prove' that a god does or doesn't exist.

Remember Logic has to have "Valid" premises that are "True" and "Sound" for the conclusion to be necessarily "True".

[SpheresOfBalance]

LOL

1. I never ever spoke of 'jtb'. So, there is a prime example of 'confusion', itself.

2. I asked you to just clarify some thing, you, once again, failed absolutely at just doing that very simplest of things.

Are you drunk, maybe that's it.
If you don't know about JTB in a philosophy forum, maybe you should look it up.

LOL
you keep making these Truly absurd assumptions, here, and then jumping to Truly irrational conclusions, and worse still you are believing your own made up False and Wrong conclusions as being what is true and right.

Just because I was not talking about 'jtb' in no way means that I do not know about 'jtb' in a philosophy forum.

The only one who brought up and talked about 'jtb', hee, is you. And, you imagining and 'seeing' that I was just goes to show how confused you really are, here

Obviously you don't know what it is or anything about the farmer and the cow problem. Tell me. When I mentioned it, it was your only recourse. The only kind of "belief --> knowledge" there is where truth is a factor is JTB but even Plato and more modern philosophers saw that there were problems with the idea. Mainly with the J.

[Age]

You're so wrong it's not funny, I'll not take the time to educate you, because you're obviously intellectually below me.

Okay. But just writing things like, 'you are so wrong', does not explain much at all, really.

What happened to you, I once thought you had a pretty good mind. Did you have a stroke or something, I hope not, but it sure seems true. Maybe you've gotten too caught up in your arguments here. Somethings different. Have you been exposed to some HAZMAT or something?

Again, absolutely nothing is being related to.

'I' am not just wrong 'I' am 'so wrong'.

But, in relation to what, exactly, will not be pointed out and expressed, so maybe 'I' am just so wrong in relation to absolutely every thing I say and write, here.

By the way, like 'you', 'I' do not have a mind. But, then again, 'I' would be 'so wrong', here' also, correct?

Honestly, if someone can't be on the same page with me, I'm far too lazy to try and explain things to them. That didn't use to be the case but age, pardon the pun, has caught up with me, with all my own health related issues. So I'm looking for someone that can argue these issues that at least understands the points I make. It's nothing personal.

OK, I'll explain one thing before I go: The reason I chose the word "Impossible" is because in the truest sense of the word and the points being made by you and I, Atheists can't know what it is that they don't know, and not seeing something yet, has no necessary bearing on the future, as humans are relatively babies in terms of knowing the universe completely. And Theists can only say that god has talked to them or that they only have faith, which is without knowledge, but I know that humans lie and some of them are schizophrenics, that hear voices in their heads, I know because I have a friend that is one. And a so called all knowing, omnipresent god hasn't made itself visible to all of us which would be the best way to get us to believe in it, and it would know that we know that people lie, so why would it just tell a few and have them tell the rest, because we might believe them to be liars or schizophrenics, that would mean that god is a dumb ass and it's supposed to be all knowing. See what I mean, IMPOSSIBLE! Neither side can 'prove' either side. An agnostic can at least 'believe', not Know, that either belief has a chance of being true, that the jury is still out. Now does the logic speak for itself. If not "logically" prove it wrong. You can't, no one can. Oh, they can make up stories alright and try and confuse you, but no one can logically 'prove' that a god does or doesn't exist.

Remember Logic has to have "Valid" premises that are "True" and "Sound" for the conclusion to be necessarily "True".

Obviously you, still, have missed and/or misunderstood the point, completely.

[Age]

Are you drunk, maybe that's it.
If you don't know about JTB in a philosophy forum, maybe you should look it up.

LOL
you keep making these Truly absurd assumptions, here, and then jumping to Truly irrational conclusions, and worse still you are believing your own made up False and Wrong conclusions as being what is true and right.

Just because I was not talking about 'jtb' in no way means that I do not know about 'jtb' in a philosophy forum.

The only one who brought up and talked about 'jtb', hee, is you. And, you imagining and 'seeing' that I was just goes to show how confused you really are, here

Obviously you don't know what it is or anything about the farmer and the cow problem. Tell me. When I mentioned it, it was your only recourse. The only kind of "belief --> knowledge" there is where truth is a factor is JTB but even Plato and more modern philosophers saw that there were problems with the idea. Mainly with the J.

Obviously you, still, keep missing and/or misunderstanding the point, here.

[SpheresOfBalance]

Okay. But just writing things like, 'you are so wrong', does not explain much at all, really.



Again, absolutely nothing is being related to.

'I' am not just wrong 'I' am 'so wrong'.

But, in relation to what, exactly, will not be pointed out and expressed, so maybe 'I' am just so wrong in relation to absolutely every thing I say and write, here.

By the way, like 'you', 'I' do not have a mind. But, then again, 'I' would be 'so wrong', here' also, correct?

Honestly, if someone can't be on the same page with me, I'm far too lazy to try and explain things to them. That didn't use to be the case but age, pardon the pun, has caught up with me, with all my own health related issues. So I'm looking for someone that can argue these issues that at least understands the points I make. It's nothing personal.

OK, I'll explain one thing before I go: The reason I chose the word "Impossible" is because in the truest sense of the word and the points being made by you and I, Atheists can't know what it is that they don't know, and not seeing something yet, has no necessary bearing on the future, as humans are relatively babies in terms of knowing the universe completely. And Theists can only say that god has talked to them or that they only have faith, which is without knowledge, but I know that humans lie and some of them are schizophrenics, that hear voices in their heads, I know because I have a friend that is one. And a so called all knowing, omnipresent god hasn't made itself visible to all of us which would be the best way to get us to believe in it, and it would know that we know that people lie, so why would it just tell a few and have them tell the rest, because we might believe them to be liars or schizophrenics, that would mean that god is a dumb ass and it's supposed to be all knowing. See what I mean, IMPOSSIBLE! Neither side can 'prove' either side. An agnostic can at least 'believe', not Know, that either belief has a chance of being true, that the jury is still out. Now does the logic speak for itself. If not "logically" prove it wrong. You can't, no one can. Oh, they can make up stories alright and try and confuse you, but no one can logically 'prove' that a god does or doesn't exist.

Remember Logic has to have "Valid" premises that are "True" and "Sound" for the conclusion to be necessarily "True".

Obviously you, still, have missed and/or misunderstood the point, completely.

Keep side stepping and running scared, it's hilarious. I'm done playing with the special needs class. Don't worry, I really feel sorry for you. I care for all the damaged people. Maybe I just had you all wrong those years ago. Sorry I misjudged you, you obviously didn't deserve it.
Peace my friend!