Loops and Void

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Re: Loops and Void

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huphuphup123 wrote: Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:25 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Oct 08, 2025 5:14 am
huphuphup123 wrote: Fri Oct 03, 2025 2:18 pm
This makes sense but what I was asking isn't what change is, but how change occurs, like what causes what. Do you say that it happens from recursion/paradox/self-reference. Like you said the liar's paradox leads to a gradient truth and false at the same time. But the question is how the change happens from there not being both true and false thing, to there being one, after it all starts from nothing.

Like when you had the list of presence and absence starting from nothing=nothing, cant all of those things happen at the same time, it isn't saying that postive and negative exists for a moment on its own and then you get "presence and absence" being positive
Cool....so will I will start slow and then build up.

Change is the spontaneous emergence of a distinction.

What causes change is the potentiality from which it emerges and dissolves back into.

This process is a pattern. Think of point C moving from point A to point B, each position of point C is a pattern of the point occuring recursively. The occurence of movement of point C is a recursive cycle, a pattern, thus change is the emergence of patterns, ie in this case the recursion on point C.

So change is the emergence of a pattern.

One pattern emerges relative to another and the distinction of one pattern to another is change. What change fundamentally is is contrast by degree of comparison. The cause of change is the act of distinction, the cause of the act of distinction is potentiality, ie the absence of actuality until the potentiality becomes distinct as potentiality, ie a distinction.

The cause of change is everpresent potentiality. By degrees of differences there is the potentiality of a thing to be distinct from another. In these respects change can be viewed as a static event in the respect that one pattern contrasts to another, movement is the occurence and dissolution of patterns where the occurence and dissolution is the distinction itself.

Yes all things occur at the same time in two respects:

1. The absolute sense of a "totality".
2. The relative sense where distinctions occur within the context of other distinctions.
by distinction, you mean that one thing being different to another. Something having an absence like A and not-A right?
but isn't something having potentiality which is the absence of something same as distinction,

so you are saying what causes change is the absence of something?

I'm still confused but you say that when A=A happens it turns itself into A=not-A, and you would call that a distinction, are you saying that is change?
or when nothing=nothing turns into something are you saying that is change?
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A distinction is the simultaneous connection and seperation of things. A car is the connection of parts but is seperate from a tree.

Because a distinction is absent as other things there is always potential inherent within it for change, potentiality by degree of the void of what it is not (absence).

Change is the absence of a thing that allows it to occur. The absence of a tree allows the actuality of a car. The empty road allows the car to move.

The absence of one thing is the occurence of another.

When A=A there are two A's as equality is a relationship and a relationship occurs between two or more things. If A=A then there are As in distinct times and places. Think of apple=apple...you need two apples and those two apples are in distinct times and spaces. Because the times and spaces are distinct the equal things, while bound by equality, manifest a space between them that is -A or "not A".

Because A only exists by what it is not, the -A which allows it to be distinct (reread the distinction explanation above if you need to), and the nature of A=A requires -A as argued above, the existence of A and -A require eachother thus have similar foundations. These similar foundations are equality. Equality is purely a context shared as no two things are completely equal or there would only be one. To say equality is to say the same foundation or context. Pure equality would be one thing.

Equality is recursion, recursion is repetition. When a thing repeats there is sameness and difference. I may repeat across time and space but each moment in time and space is a different me. So equality observes the sameness in somethings, the difference in others. The difference is the occurence of change. Difference is change.

When a thing repeats the subtle difference which occur are the act of change. Change is assymetry at different levels as assymetry is the relative absence of symmetry and symmetry is equality as repetition.

If that is not clear then just keep asking questions...philosophy, for better or for worse, is a language game.
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