Christianity

[Age]

I do so, but I appreciate your reminding me.

Our "tussles" are not about defining 'eternity' but are competing claims about how 'eternity' may be defined as a really productive heuristic. To put it another way, how might the word 'eternity' be used so as to further good, truth, and living a good life.

Well one can not, really, live a 'good life' if what they are continually being told, and/or believe is true, and thus are telling others, is actually just another Falsehood, being spread around, and believed.

Explaining the 'Life', Itself, is for 'eternity', furthers 'good' and 'truth' because 'it' is an irrefutable Fact.

And, explaining that what 'you' do 'now' will in one way, or another, have an ever-lasting effect can and did help in learning how to 'live the 'good life'.

Age, like many others you conflate 'everlasting' and 'eternal'.

Yes you are Right "Belinda".

In 'this case', here, I have.

Which I will now Correct.

My sincere apologies.

[Belinda]

Well one can not, really, live a 'good life' if what they are continually being told, and/or believe is true, and thus are telling others, is actually just another Falsehood, being spread around, and believed.

Explaining the 'Life', Itself, is for 'eternity', furthers 'good' and 'truth' because 'it' is an irrefutable Fact.

And, explaining that what 'you' do 'now' will in one way, or another, have an ever-lasting effect can and did help in learning how to 'live the 'good life'.

Age, like many others you conflate 'everlasting' and 'eternal'.

Yes you are Right "Belinda".

In 'this case', here, I have.

Which I will now Correct.

My sincere apologies.

No need to apologise . I am here partly to learn and I am glad you are also.

[Age]

Age, like many others you conflate 'everlasting' and 'eternal'.

Yes you are Right "Belinda".

In 'this case', here, I have.

Which I will now Correct.

My sincere apologies.

No need to apologise . I am here partly to learn and I am glad you are also.

Once again, 'I' am, fully, here, to learn how to communicate, better, with 'you' human beings.

[seeds]

I am Scottish, European, and I feel emotional empathy also towards humans I have never met and never will meet. I also feel emotional empathy towards animals and even towards plants. To be friends with political parties like National Socialism, or Reform with Nigel Farage, or Netanyahu's Israel would require of me a change of not cognition but a change of personality.

I would recommend cultivating empathy toward your kin and reducing empathy for those not in your immediate circle.

Halleluiah, brother Alexis!

I could be hallucinating, but there seems to be a supernatural glow emanating from the words of your post, for it's as if Jesus himself was here, in person, writing that response to Belinda.

Encourage THEM to do the same — back in their own lands of course. Let THEM channel their empathy to the construction of grounded and empowering structures.

Yes, yes, Alexis,...

...encourage "THEM"...

(those uninvited, unwelcome refugees from war torn areas such as Iraq, Afghanistan, and Gaza, for example)

...to go back to their own homelands that we, in the west, have made uninhabitable from our missiles and bombs in our imperialistic (resource-seeking) encroachments into their territories, and let "THEM" then channel their own empathy towards the construction of grounded and empowering structures (out of the rubble and chaos that we helped to create), and leave us alone.

Again, Alexis, halleluiah to that!!!

A person such as yourself, who so clearly embodies and mimics Jesus's sentiments, must surely be sporting a couple of those "WWJD" (What Would Jesus Do) bracelets, one on each wrist. Yes?

Hmm, on second thought, I am now finding myself a bit conflicted in regard to my somewhat sarcastic criticism of your comments to Belinda.

And that's because I suppose it's possible that you may have somehow tapped into and are now channeling Jesus's dark side.

You know, the side of his psyche that will have no moral problem with condemning billions of defenseless souls to an eternity of unimaginable torture in the fires of Hell,...

(a Hell that he [and his dad] personally created and maintain)

...simply to teach those defenseless souls an ever-lasting lesson of the dire consequences of not accepting Jesus's generous (and loving) offer to save them from his decision to torture them.

All because of what two boneheaded (and mythological) humans allegedly did - thousands of years ago - in a mythological garden called "Eden."

I guess my point is, go ahead, Alexis, keep promoting separation and divisiveness between humans, for as evil and wrong-headed as that may be, it is literally nothing compared to the unthinkable evil that Jesus himself is going to perform on the so-called "day of judgment."

And yes, I know that I am being a tad melodramatic in my rant,...

...but people need to stop ignoring what "Christianity" (the title of this thread) actually proposes and thus realize that we need a better (more modern/more logical) creation story.
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[popeye1945]

That's a good rule of thumb, Belinda.

How about trying to remember that quote the next time we get into a tussle over the meaning of the word "eternity."
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Context defines words as well as us. All words are qualifications and/or limitations.

Use of language is a social context.

EXCELLENT!

[Alexis Jacobi]

Yes, yes, Alexis,...

...encourage "THEM"...

(those uninvited, unwelcome refugees from war torn areas such as Iraq, Afghanistan, and Gaza, for example)

...to go back to their own homelands that we, in the west, have made uninhabitable from our missiles and bombs in our imperialistic (resource-seeking) encroachments into their territories, and let "THEM" then channel their own empathy towards the construction of grounded and empowering structures (out of the rubble and chaos that we helped to create), and leave us alone.

That those things were done, and are now being done, is strongly opposed by those who advocate for an “America First” political ideology. (I refer to Bannon who remains pretty clear in this advocacy). It is not people but “elites” who undertake those destructive wars.

People are justified in not wanting to pay the price for wars they did not initiate or desire.

Therefore, there is little, perhaps nothing, unethical in the postures I have been talking about.

[Alexis Jacobi]

For Belinda:

Overcoming the Feminization of Culture

[seeds]

Yes, yes, Alexis,...

...encourage "THEM"...

(those uninvited, unwelcome refugees from war torn areas such as Iraq, Afghanistan, and Gaza, for example)

...to go back to their own homelands that we, in the west, have made uninhabitable from our missiles and bombs in our imperialistic (resource-seeking) encroachments into their territories, and let "THEM" then channel their own empathy towards the construction of grounded and empowering structures (out of the rubble and chaos that we helped to create), and leave us alone.

That those things were done, and are now being done, is strongly opposed by those who advocate for an “America First” political ideology. (I refer to Bannon who remains pretty clear in this advocacy). It is not people but “elites” who undertake those destructive wars.

People are justified in not wanting to pay the price for wars they did not initiate or desire.

That may be true, but I highly doubt that the "non-elites" in America are losing any sleep over being members of a society that...

...according to Google's AI Overview (emphasis mine):

"...with less than 5% of the world's population consumes a disproportionately large share of global resources, accounting for about 25% of the world's energy, 33% of its paper, and a quarter of its oil. This high per capita consumption highlights significant differences in resource use compared to other countries and demonstrates the U.S.'s role as a major global consumer..."

The point is that, like the wife and children of a brutal mob boss, if you share in the ill-gotten booty that the "elites" acquire, then you also share in the responsibility (blame) for how our disproportionate appropriation of global resources are procured.

Therefore, there is little, perhaps nothing, unethical in the postures I have been talking about.

Of course not, Alexis,...

...I mean, as I pointed out earlier, just as there is "nothing unethical" about Jesus choosing to torture untold billions of defenseless souls for eternity simply because they didn't fully understand the consequences of ignoring his "loving offer" to save them from him torturing them,...

...likewise, there is "nothing unethical" about greedy, imperialistic, world-conquering warmongers destroying other people's homelands and then denying the innocent refugees of that destruction safe haven in the warmonger's homeland.

I guess the point is that if what Jesus is going to do in, again, the "final judgment" is deemed ethical, then the shameless (divisive) "postures" you are promoting aren't just ethical, but saintly in comparison.
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[Fairy]

Use of language is a social context.

Clear thinkers take feedback from reality, not society.


There’s no reality except the one contained within us. That is why so many people live such an unreal life.
They take the images outside them for reality and never allow the world within to assert itself.

[Phil8659]

Christianity
Britain used to refer to itself as a Christian country.
There seems to be little agreement as to what we are today.
In modern terms:
Christianity is not about simple freedom of the individual will.
Christianity is not about simple obedience to moral codes.
Christianity is about informed conformity to altruist values.
Human and other rights and duties are legal constructs based on values.

That is very civilized of you to define a word "Christianity" without the consent of anybody. Have you always had this Napoleonic defect?
You must like playing with words. How old are you?

I have always found that names for so called religions are simply variables that mentally defective people assign what ever values floats their boat.

[Alexis Jacobi]

The point is that, like the wife and children of a brutal mob boss, if you share in the ill-gotten booty that the "elites" acquire, then you also share in the responsibility (blame) for how our disproportionate appropriation of global resources are procured.

Trust me, I understand your point. Your analysis leads to an essentially Marxian praxis and this appears to be a view that defines your perspectives.

[Belinda]

I am Scottish, European, and I feel emotional empathy also towards humans I have never met and never will meet. I also feel emotional empathy towards animals and even towards plants. To be friends with political parties like National Socialism, or Reform with Nigel Farage, or Netanyahu's Israel would require of me a change of not cognition but a change of personality.

I would recommend cultivating empathy toward your kin and reducing empathy for those not in your immediate circle.

Halleluiah, brother Alexis!

I could be hallucinating, but there seems to be a supernatural glow emanating from the words of your post, for it's as if Jesus himself was here, in person, writing that response to Belinda.

Encourage THEM to do the same — back in their own lands of course. Let THEM channel their empathy to the construction of grounded and empowering structures.

Yes, yes, Alexis,...

...encourage "THEM"...

(those uninvited, unwelcome refugees from war torn areas such as Iraq, Afghanistan, and Gaza, for example)

...to go back to their own homelands that we, in the west, have made uninhabitable from our missiles and bombs in our imperialistic (resource-seeking) encroachments into their territories, and let "THEM" then channel their own empathy towards the construction of grounded and empowering structures (out of the rubble and chaos that we helped to create), and leave us alone.

Again, Alexis, halleluiah to that!!!

A person such as yourself, who so clearly embodies and mimics Jesus's sentiments, must surely be sporting a couple of those "WWJD" (What Would Jesus Do) bracelets, one on each wrist. Yes?

Hmm, on second thought, I am now finding myself a bit conflicted in regard to my somewhat sarcastic criticism of your comments to Belinda.

And that's because I suppose it's possible that you may have somehow tapped into and are now channeling Jesus's dark side.

You know, the side of his psyche that will have no moral problem with condemning billions of defenseless souls to an eternity of unimaginable torture in the fires of Hell,...

(a Hell that he [and his dad] personally created and maintain)

...simply to teach those defenseless souls an ever-lasting lesson of the dire consequences of not accepting Jesus's generous (and loving) offer to save them from his decision to torture them.

All because of what two boneheaded (and mythological) humans allegedly did - thousands of years ago - in a mythological garden called "Eden."

I guess my point is, go ahead, Alexis, keep promoting separation and divisiveness between humans, for as evil and wrong-headed as that may be, it is literally nothing compared to the unthinkable evil that Jesus himself is going to perform on the so-called "day of judgment."

And yes, I know that I am being a tad melodramatic in my rant,...

...but people need to stop ignoring what "Christianity" (the title of this thread) actually proposes and thus realize that we need a better (more modern/more logical) creation story.
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I think Seeds need more historical perspective on what Jesus of Nazareth actually said. Sorry if I misunderstood you Seeds---were you being ironic?

[Belinda]

For Belinda:

Overcoming the Feminization of Culture

I almost never pay attention to videos. The ways ideas are packaged matter to me.

[Belinda]

I would recommend cultivating empathy toward your kin and reducing empathy for those not in your immediate circle.

Halleluiah, brother Alexis!

I could be hallucinating, but there seems to be a supernatural glow emanating from the words of your post, for it's as if Jesus himself was here, in person, writing that response to Belinda.

Encourage THEM to do the same — back in their own lands of course. Let THEM channel their empathy to the construction of grounded and empowering structures.

Yes, yes, Alexis,...

...encourage "THEM"...

(those uninvited, unwelcome refugees from war torn areas such as Iraq, Afghanistan, and Gaza, for example)

...to go back to their own homelands that we, in the west, have made uninhabitable from our missiles and bombs in our imperialistic (resource-seeking) encroachments into their territories, and let "THEM" then channel their own empathy towards the construction of grounded and empowering structures (out of the rubble and chaos that we helped to create), and leave us alone.

Again, Alexis, halleluiah to that!!!

A person such as yourself, who so clearly embodies and mimics Jesus's sentiments, must surely be sporting a couple of those "WWJD" (What Would Jesus Do) bracelets, one on each wrist. Yes?

Hmm, on second thought, I am now finding myself a bit conflicted in regard to my somewhat sarcastic criticism of your comments to Belinda.

And that's because I suppose it's possible that you may have somehow tapped into and are now channeling Jesus's dark side.

You know, the side of his psyche that will have no moral problem with condemning billions of defenseless souls to an eternity of unimaginable torture in the fires of Hell,...

(a Hell that he [and his dad] personally created and maintain)

...simply to teach those defenseless souls an ever-lasting lesson of the dire consequences of not accepting Jesus's generous (and loving) offer to save them from his decision to torture them.

All because of what two boneheaded (and mythological) humans allegedly did - thousands of years ago - in a mythological garden called "Eden."

I guess my point is, go ahead, Alexis, keep promoting separation and divisiveness between humans, for as evil and wrong-headed as that may be, it is literally nothing compared to the unthinkable evil that Jesus himself is going to perform on the so-called "day of judgment."

And yes, I know that I am being a tad melodramatic in my rant,...

...but people need to stop ignoring what "Christianity" (the title of this thread) actually proposes and thus realize that we need a better (more modern/more logical) creation story.
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I think Seeds need more historical perspective on what Jesus of Nazareth actually said. Sorry if I misunderstood you--were you being ironic?

[Alexis Jacobi]

For Belinda:

Overcoming the Feminization of Culture

I almost never pay attention to videos. The ways ideas are packaged matter to me.

It is a talk. Sixteen minutes. You seem interested in understanding the conflicts and struggles of today, and this talk outlines a significant issue. There is no transcript available and no article that I can find.

Her argument is that the infiltration of women into important culture and ethics determining professions has had some effects that are not good or desirable. Her position clarifies what I attempted to communicate to you and what you adamantly resist realizing or, at least, entertaining.