Christianity

[seeds]

Yes, half the world's population are women.
Alexis should not have mentioned his fear of women which makes him laughable.

It is not a ‘fear of women’ and much more an apprehension of, and a suspicion of, women’s tendency to operate through sentimental filters and lenses.

Alexis, you poor misguided male child.

The fact that the above quote suggests that you cannot see the female...

"...tendency to operate through sentimental filters and lenses..."

...as being a necessary counterbalance to the male tendency to operate through pragmatic filters and lenses,...

...is quite telling.

In other words, it is foolish of you not to recognize and acknowledge that both so-called "lenses" are necessary (in equal proportion) in order to bring a proper and functional "wholeness" to man's overall nature.

Furthermore, how many times do I have to remind you that with just a few minor edits of the DNA blueprint of the developing embryo of your body as it was forming in your mother's womb,...

...that you, Alexis - as in your inner "I Am-ness" - could just as easily have found itself in a female* body, and therefore on the receiving end of the same sort of condescending words you are directing towards Belinda, but uttered by some other misguided male on the forum?

*(And the lucky part is that the name "Alexis" would still be fitting, you little sissy. -- Just kidding. Hey, it's what manly male friends do, so don't give me any guff about it. )
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[popeye1945]

As I have often quoted, "The meaning of a word is its use"

That's a good rule of thumb, Belinda.

How about trying to remember that quote the next time we get into a tussle over the meaning of the word "eternity."
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Context defines words as well as us. All words are qualifications and/or limitations.

[Age]

Yes, half the world's population are women.
Alexis should not have mentioned his fear of women which makes him laughable.

It is not a ‘fear of women’ and much more an apprehension of, and a suspicion of, women’s tendency to operate through sentimental filters and lenses.

Alexis, you poor misguided male child.

The fact that the above quote suggests that you cannot see the female...

"...tendency to operate through sentimental filters and lenses..."

...as being a necessary counterbalance to the male tendency to operate through pragmatic filters and lenses,...

...is quite telling.

In other words, it is foolish of you not to recognize and acknowledge that both so-called "lenses" are necessary (in equal proportion) in order to bring a proper and functional "wholeness" to man's overall nature.

I wonder how many others noticed the irony of claiming that both the so-called 'male' and 'female' lenses are needed to bring a proper and functional 'wholeness' to only the 'man's' overall nature.

Furthermore, how many times do I have to remind you that with just a few minor edits of the DNA blueprint of the developing embryo of your body as it was forming in your mother's womb,...

...that you, Alexis - as in your inner "I Am-ness" - could just as easily have found itself in a female* body, and therefore on the receiving end of the same sort of condescending words you are directing towards Belinda, but uttered by some other misguided male on the forum?

But, and once again for the slow of learning ones, the 'I' (am-ness) is certainly not and certainly could never be 'female' nor 'male'.

Also, once more, 'male' and 'female' are words in relation to the child creating and child rearing organs of the body, only. Which is proved true by you human beings inability to inform each other, in agreement and acceptance, of what else 'it' is that makes up the 'female' and 'male' of you human beings.

*(And the lucky part is that the name "Alexis" would still be fitting, you little sissy. -- Just kidding. Hey, it's what manly male friends do, so don't give me any guff about it. )
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Oh "seeds" you tiny little insignificant thing you.

[Age]

Yes, half the world's population are women.
Alexis should not have mentioned his fear of women which makes him laughable.
Kinder, Küche, Kirche Alexis is that it?

It is not a ‘fear of women’ and much more an apprehension of, and a suspicion of, women’s tendency to operate through sentimental filters and lenses.

Your apprehensions about the movement now forming in England, and in numerous places, is (as I see it) not based in sound reasoning, judicious reasoning, but emoted reasoning more rooted in feeling. The word you use — love — seems inflected with sentiment.

It is not “love” that is needed but clarity and intelligence. If those are in place, well then “love” surely has a role.

Obviously, there are women who have reasoned things through and take a position defined (perhaps) by “love”, but genuine and practicable love of their nation, culture, people and history.

But you are right in a sense: I do hold to more traditional views of both men and women’s roles. Without a restoration in these areas I do not think things will turn out well. And I am not here selling my own view, rather I am trying to line out what is going on in our present.

As I have often quoted, "The meaning of a word is its use"

'Love' has a great many meanings : I love little babies. I love ice cream. I love linguistics. I have been in love . I love the idea of freedom. I love loyalty. I love endurance. I love to do better. I love to know more. I love future possibilities . I love courage. I love ordinary human kindness.

Are there any actual different meanings to the word, 'love', here?

To me, the word, love, in each of those uses appears to have just about the exact same meaning, if not the exact same. But, maybe you will show otherwise.

I fear what is going on at our present time. I fear unkindness more than I fear immigrants . It is important to rehabilitate the word 'love' to refer to agape.

As for the so called supernatural way of being ; Plato's theory of Forms suffices. The human is the only measure, not an interventionist whimsical God who must be propitiated with prescribed rituals.

I do agree we must understand and allay the fears of Tommy Robinson supporters. Public relations expertise is lacking. Maybe the lead will come from the liberal, modern churches you deplore. I do hope so. There must be quite a few social psychologists at the disposal of church authorities.

[Age]

As I have often quoted, "The meaning of a word is its use"

That's a good rule of thumb, Belinda.

How about trying to remember that quote the next time we get into a tussle over the meaning of the word "eternity."
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Why, what does the meaning of the word, 'eternity', mean to both of you?

[Alexis Jacobi]

I fear what is going on at our present time. I fear unkindness more than I fear immigrants . It is important to rehabilitate the word 'love' to refer to agape.

I fear lack of resolution to do what is right, necessary and good: reclaim England, renovate England. Strengthen English people and English culture. And get it arranged that millions are sent back to their homes far, far away.

I am not much bothered by “unkindness” …

[Middle English, from Old English gecynd, race, offspring, kind; see genə- in Indo-European roots.]

… and note the origin of the word ‘kind’.

I fear lack of clear seeing — to see, know and understand who your ‘kind’ is. To see through the constructs and manipulation of Postwar propaganda and social engineering.

[Alexis Jacobi]

Don’t worry Seeds. I am ‘balanced’:

Alexius is the Latinized form of the given name Alexios (Greek: Αλέξιος, polytonic Ἀλέξιος, "defender", cf. Alexander), especially common in the later Byzantine Empire. Variants include Alexis with the Russian Aleksey and its Ukrainian counterpart Oleksa/Oleksiy deriving from this form. The female form is Alexia (Greek: Αλεξία) and its variants such as Alessia (the masculine form of which is Alessio) in Italian.

[Belinda]

As I have often quoted, "The meaning of a word is its use"

That's a good rule of thumb, Belinda.

How about trying to remember that quote the next time we get into a tussle over the meaning of the word "eternity."
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Context defines words as well as us. All words are qualifications and/or limitations.

Use of language is a social context.

[Belinda]

As I have often quoted, "The meaning of a word is its use"

That's a good rule of thumb, Belinda.

How about trying to remember that quote the next time we get into a tussle over the meaning of the word "eternity."
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I do so, but I appreciate your reminding me.

Our "tussles" are not about defining 'eternity' but are competing claims about how 'eternity' may be defined as a really productive heuristic. To put it another way, how might the word 'eternity' be used so as to further good, truth, and living a good life.

[Age]

I fear what is going on at our present time. I fear unkindness more than I fear immigrants . It is important to rehabilitate the word 'love' to refer to agape.

I fear lack of resolution to do what is right, necessary and good: reclaim England, renovate England. Strengthen English people and English culture. And get it arranged that millions are sent back to their homes far, far away.

'This one' would fail, absolutely, here, if it was ever questioned and/or challenged.

I am not much bothered by “unkindness” …

Obviously. Oh, except, of course, each and every time it is put back on to you.

[Middle English, from Old English gecynd, race, offspring, kind; see genə- in Indo-European roots.]

… and note the origin of the word ‘kind’.

I fear lack of clear seeing — to see, know and understand who your ‘kind’ is. To see through the constructs and manipulation of Postwar propaganda and social engineering.

[Age]

Don’t worry Seeds. I am ‘balanced’:

Alexius is the Latinized form of the given name Alexios (Greek: Αλέξιος, polytonic Ἀλέξιος, "defender", cf. Alexander), especially common in the later Byzantine Empire. Variants include Alexis with the Russian Aleksey and its Ukrainian counterpart Oleksa/Oleksiy deriving from this form. The female form is Alexia (Greek: Αλεξία) and its variants such as Alessia (the masculine form of which is Alessio) in Italian.

It can also be a very 'girly' name.

Which, if 'you' were honest, 'you' would have also admitted.

[Age]

As I have often quoted, "The meaning of a word is its use"

That's a good rule of thumb, Belinda.

How about trying to remember that quote the next time we get into a tussle over the meaning of the word "eternity."
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I do so, but I appreciate your reminding me.

Our "tussles" are not about defining 'eternity' but are competing claims about how 'eternity' may be defined as a really productive heuristic. To put it another way, how might the word 'eternity' be used so as to further good, truth, and living a good life.

Well one can not, really, live a 'good life' if what they are continually being told, and/or believe is true, and thus are telling others, is actually just another Falsehood, being spread around, and believed.

Explaining the 'Life', Itself, is for 'eternity', furthers 'good' and 'truth' because 'it' is an irrefutable Fact.

And, explaining that what 'you' do 'now' will in one way, or another, have an ever-lasting effect, for 'eternity', can and did help in learning how to 'live the 'good life'.

[Belinda]

I fear what is going on at our present time. I fear unkindness more than I fear immigrants . It is important to rehabilitate the word 'love' to refer to agape.

I fear lack of resolution to do what is right, necessary and good: reclaim England, renovate England. Strengthen English people and English culture. And get it arranged that millions are sent back to their homes far, far away.

I am not much bothered by “unkindness” …

[Middle English, from Old English gecynd, race, offspring, kind; see genə- in Indo-European roots.]

… and note the origin of the word ‘kind’.

I fear lack of clear seeing — to see, know and understand who your ‘kind’ is. To see through the constructs and manipulation of Postwar propaganda and social engineering.

Even psychopaths try to do what is right, necessary, and good. Politics is different approaches to doing what is right, necessary and good.
I appreciate the etymology of 'kind' which is partly why I like the word. 'Kin' and' 'king' are cognates of 'kind'.

Our difference is not disagreement as to the actuality of emotional empathy towards one's kin, but the scope of that emotional empathy.

I am Scottish, European, and I feel emotional empathy also towards humans I have never met and never will meet .I also feel emotional empathy towards animals and even towards plants. To be friends with political parties like National Socialism , or Reform with Nigel Farage, or Netanyahu's Israel would require of me a change of not cognition but a change of personality.

[Belinda]

That's a good rule of thumb, Belinda.

How about trying to remember that quote the next time we get into a tussle over the meaning of the word "eternity."
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I do so, but I appreciate your reminding me.

Our "tussles" are not about defining 'eternity' but are competing claims about how 'eternity' may be defined as a really productive heuristic. To put it another way, how might the word 'eternity' be used so as to further good, truth, and living a good life.

Well one can not, really, live a 'good life' if what they are continually being told, and/or believe is true, and thus are telling others, is actually just another Falsehood, being spread around, and believed.

Explaining the 'Life', Itself, is for 'eternity', furthers 'good' and 'truth' because 'it' is an irrefutable Fact.

And, explaining that what 'you' do 'now' will in one way, or another, have an ever-lasting effect, for 'eternity', can and did help in learning how to 'live the 'good life'.

Age, like many others you conflate 'everlasting' and 'eternal'.

[Alexis Jacobi]

Our difference is not disagreement as to the actuality of emotional empathy towards one's kin, but the scope of that emotional empathy.

No, my differences with your position are far broader. And i am not chary of strength, its application, and I must also say the use of power and force in present cultural conflicts. Your orientation is “feminine” (I criticize this but not feminine tendencies) and mine is “masculine”. Men must lead, our women must support strong men leading. Far too much political and social feminization became normalized post-Sixties. It’s an interesting but difficult topic.

I am Scottish, European, and I feel emotional empathy also towards humans I have never met and never will meet. I also feel emotional empathy towards animals and even towards plants. To be friends with political parties like National Socialism, or Reform with Nigel Farage, or Netanyahu's Israel would require of me a change of not cognition but a change of personality.

I would recommend cultivating empathy toward your kin and reducing empathy for those not in your immediate circle.

Encourage THEM to do the same — back in their own lands of course. Let THEM channel their empathy to the construction of grounded and empowering structures.

To be friends with political parties like National Socialism, or Reform with Nigel Farage, or Netanyahu's Israel …

Nice rhetorical trick. A typical manoeuvre by non clear-headed feminized thinkers (corrupted thinkers) but one quite common today.